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htismaqe 01-07-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453339)
I listed the Super Bowl year, since, were talking about Super Bowl teams.

Now go ahead and try to discredit all those Super Bowl winners, now that you know what years I'm talking about (PS, use the context clues based on what team I said they beat).

Nah, I'm done responding to you. Hopefully everybody else will do the same and you'll get the ****ing hint that nobody wants you here.

diqlix 01-07-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15453345)
Anyway, I'm done here.

Hopefully this guy is done soon and hopefully it's because the Bills get crushed by the Colts. If not, hopefully he keeps acting like a douche and gets banned.

The absolute worst part of being on this message board for the past 20 years is these ****ing rival fan trolls that think they know everything and can tell us all about how we're bad fans.

It's beyond ridiculous.

Posts tons of SB winners and the streaks they were on.

htismaqe runs away

wazu 01-07-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453342)
$10K on Bills -10.

DAYUM

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453351)
Posts tons of SB winners and the streaks they were on.

htismaqe runs away

And the odd thing about it is, the Chiefs are the ones on a 10 game win streak (not including last week).

So you think they’re going back-to-back then probably?

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2021 03:41 PM

Forget win streaks or how so and so won ‘8 of their last 9’, etc etc.

It’s pretty simple. Teams with byes make Super Bowls the vast majority of the time in recent history. Teams with byes win a lot of games, otherwise they wouldn’t have said bye. Teams that win a lot of games, enough to earn a bye, are usually the best the league has to offer.

The end.

DrRyan 01-07-2021 03:43 PM

+10 is a dangerous number. Also, If you had only bet the money line on every dog the last couple years wildcard weekend you would be well ahead of betting the favorites.

diqlix 01-07-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15453355)
And the odd thing about it is, the Chiefs are the ones on a 10 game win streak (not including last week).

So you think they’re going back-to-back then probably?

Probably.

ptlyon 01-07-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 15453371)
+10 is a dangerous number. Also, If you had only bet the money line on every dog the last couple years wildcard weekend you would be well ahead of betting the favorites.

He believes in his boys. They're on a steak ya know.

Megatron96 01-07-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453149)
This doesn't count for Chiefs fans though, right?

Not sure why you would say that. I certainly have never said that, especially about CP. The fact is that most fans tend to look at overall numbers, or total statlines, much as you did when you first came here, when you declared that the Chiefs defense was ranked last against the run last season, when in fact in the last six games of the regular season they had significantly improved their run defense to where they were actually a top-10 run stopping unit from week 11-17. Which they improved upon in the playoffs.

Which I find puzzling when you keep saying that you're studying stats, and no self-respecting stats guy would lean on such general data to analyze current trends. I never majored in stats, but I took several classes in college, and I know better than that. They must be teaching stats differently nowadays.


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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453149)
Literally, just now on the radio.

"The Colts defense has struggled down the stretch"


Edit: Looked up the radio guy's comment, and he's right.

They're averaging almost 28 points per game given up over the last 7. And that includes 3 games against teams with 4-12 and 1-15 records.

Prisco even wrote this morning: "The Colts defense has waned in the second half of the season, which has to be a concern facing Josh Allen and the high-flying Buffalo offense. Indianapolis was once the top-ranked defense in the league, but they fell off in a big way in the final six games." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...d-browns-home/

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Yeah, IND has had some injury issues late in the season, including Buckner being out a couple games or something, and one or two of their secondary players dealing with injuries.

However, I believe Buckner will play this weekend, and he's integral to their DL and its ability to get pressure. What he'll actually be able to do is a question though.

Their secondary might be in trouble though. We could see blown coverages and bad communication as their DB unit stands right now.

The most important piece of their defense though is that DL and its ability to rush the passer. If they can do that, they can force Josh to have to be disciplined about how he QBs vs. pressure. They'd also have to make sure they take away Diggs of course, but if they can do it with some consistency that could be a problem for Allen, since he hasn't shown that he can deal with that situation at a high level.

Also, I'm pretty sure Prisco made an error in his math. But for this conversation I don't think we need to dig into that.

diqlix 01-07-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 15453371)
+10 is a dangerous number. Also, If you had only bet the money line on every dog the last couple years wildcard weekend you would be well ahead of betting the favorites.

If that's true, it is in reverse of NFL history.

From 1987 to 2017, the favorite won 66% of the time.

ForeverIowan 01-07-2021 03:49 PM

Hey thanks again for the Mahomes pick! Really, really really appreciate it!

Coochie liquor 01-07-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15452784)
Listening to Colts radio on RADIO.com and the guy said “Bills are a matchup nightmare for this team. They’re going my to pick on (whatever CB he said) over and over.”

I find it so interesting that Chiefs fans think they know the Colts better than Colts fans know their own team and Colts announcers know their team.

Your insecurities are telling. Small dick? ED?

Coochie liquor 01-07-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453270)
For example:

The 2018 Patriots, for example, won 7 in a row (including playoffs) before beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Patriots, won 13 of 14 in a row (including playoffs) before losing to Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Eagles won 14 of 15 before beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl (i'm not counting Week 17 where they sat all starters).

The 2014 Patriots won 12 out of 14 games before beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

The 2008 Steelers won 8 out of 9 games before beating the Cardinals in the Super Bowl.

The 2005 Steelers won their last 4 in the regular season and then 4 straight in the playoffs (8 in a row) to win the Super Bowl.

The 2004 Patriot's won 10 of 11 games before beating the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2003 Patriot's won 14 games in a row before beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl.

Etc, etc, etc.

Chiefs have beaten every single playoff team they’ve played in the last 15 months. How’s that streak for you ****face? Speaking of streaks, I’m sure there’s gonna be a big streak in your tighty Whiteys when Phyllis sends your team home and continues the STREAK of 2 1/2 DECADES of no playoff wins.

diqlix 01-07-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15453405)
Not sure why you would say that. I certainly have never said that, especially about CP. The fact is that most fans tend to look at overall numbers, or total statlines, much as you did when you first came here, when you declared that the Chiefs defense was ranked last against the run last season, when in fact in the last six games of the regular season they had significantly improved their run defense to where they were actually a top-10 run stopping unit from week 11-17. Which they improved upon in the playoffs.

Which I find puzzling when you keep saying that you're studying stats, and no self-respecting stats guy would lean on such general data to analyze current trends. I never majored in stats, but I took several classes in college, and I know better than that. They must be teaching stats differently nowadays.




Yeah, IND has had some injury issues late in the season, including Buckner being out a couple games or something, and one or two of their secondary players dealing with injuries.

However, I believe Buckner will play this weekend, and he's integral to their DL and its ability to get pressure. What he'll actually be able to do is a question though.

Their secondary might be in trouble though. We could see blown coverages and bad communication as their DB unit stands right now.

The most important piece of their defense though is that DL and its ability to rush the passer. If they can do that, they can force Josh to have to be disciplined about how he QBs vs. pressure. They'd also have to make sure they take away Diggs of course, but if they can do it with some consistency that could be a problem for Allen, since he hasn't shown that he can deal with that situation at a high level.

Also, I'm pretty sure Prisco made an error in his math. But for this conversation I don't think we need to dig into that.

That’s the other weird thing.

They’re pretty low on the sacks list for a top D-line.

My honest thinking is that Chiefs fans overrate the Colts because of how they’ve beaten them.

Because the stats & facts don’t seem to mesh with how highly Chiefs fans think of them.

Chieftain 01-07-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450616)
I don’t think that’s fair.

Chiefs fans literally think Mahomes is the GOAT after 2 years.

All fan bases have their ridiculous element.

It's not just Chiefs fans who think that. Fans of other teams are starting to think that and many people in the media. Even former coaches and players. Both Terry Bradshaw and former Bills coach Rex Ryan have publicly said that Mahomes is the best QB they have ever seen.


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