Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15490105)

To be clear. Were you OK with the Browns runner lowering his helmet as he did? Defender is put in a pretty bad spot when the runner does that.

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 15490188)

Today I looked in the mirror and said what if I had a Ron Jeremy schlong. Then I looked down, realized I didn't and moved on.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15490187)

That's something that rarely is discussed. The NFL rule clearly states "if a player lower his head to initiate contact with an opponent." It is a 2-way rule but nobody is ever whining when the offensive player commits the foul.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15487838)

Sure, it was obviously a penalty after-the-fact. But it's not reviewable and those are difficult to call in the bang-bang nature of the sport, especially at the goal line when the ref is focused more on whether he got in or not and whether and when the ball was jarred loose.

Browns fans complaining over something like that are pathetic.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15490230)

Kareem Hunt got a 15-yard penalty for it in 2017.

It's definitely a rule, they just always call it on the defense because the NFL wants scoring.

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15488630)

What if my dick was 12" instead of 2"? I'd be getting paid to **** women not paying them to **** me. :p

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 15487642)

Was not the offensive player doing the same? That is my point. If it is illegal for one it should be for both, especially when going that low. I know not everyone is going to agree, that is fine.



Also wasn't one of our lineman pulled down by his jersey twice on that same play, they call that and it is a wash.

Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 15501054)

Don't know if it has been mentioned elsewhere but he did not get fined for the hit.

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 15487632)

Helmet to Helmet isnt the issue. The issue was that he LEAD with his helmet. And that on top of being Illegal is extremely dangerous for DD and for HIggins. It could of resulted in Sorensen breaking his own neck.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15487597)

OK, this really bothers me. Browns fans are arguing that this was a game changing call and that one called back TD was the difference in a 5 point win. OK, fair point. Not calling helmet to helmet may have been a miss.

The biggest game changer as we all know wasn't the fumble, it was mahomes getting injured. Mahomes was throttling the browns and probably would have kept doing it. Would mahomes have still gotten a concussion if the browns scored? I mean, cmon.... Probably not. Here's a more likely scenario. If browns score 7, chiefs get the ball back and score 3.chiefs go into halftime 19 - 10. Browns down 9 (instead of 16) have to claw from behind

Unless people think the browns run the same exact plays in that scenario, baker throws that same exact pick, then the Chiefs run the same exact plays with the same exact outcome its very unlikely mahomes gets knocked out of that series.