The "this will all be over soon and we can resume our normal lives" line.

Which shortly after vaccinations started got moved back a WHOLE YEAR to 2022.

We all know we're never going back to our normal lives. If we were, they wouldn't be using the phrase "the new normal".

Japan has an obesity rate of 3.6 percent.

no such thing as a coinkydink.

Hi orange. Apple says hello.

I don't recall anyone other than one particular person saying that.

Going back to normal depends on if and how soon we drive this virus into submission.

Of course we are, if we can turn this thing into smallpox.

This is my issue right here. I'm not going to be very happy if I get vaccinated and still have to suffer through another summer wearing ****ing masks all the time.

BY GOD HERE COMES PETEZ28 WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!1

Why hello Mr Strawman

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Except none of that matters if the rest of the world isn't also vaccinated. So the US will be in an ok spot soon, the rest of the world will take a lot longer and something like 20-25% of our population choosing not to get vaccinated and contract it naturally instead isn't going to be a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.

Regardless, you also could say the same thing regarding any other disease or flu. Things mutate, we can't control much more. I've been fine with masking but we are getting to a spot very soon where that also will no longer make sense. We were never going to eradicate this, just slow it down to not overrun systems. Now that vaccines are out, it's going to really turn into more of a standard thing like a flu shot.

AstraZeneca the vaccine getting the bad press right now has 1in 100000-1000000 chance of getting a blood clot. 30 cases 7 deaths in 18+ million doses.

So far Pfizer and moderna have even less risk


Odds of blood clot from COVID 1 in 100, 1 in 20 if hospitalized.

it is still being recommended for people over 55 because risks from COVID in that demographic is much higher .

being obese/getting pregnant are much higher risk of getting blood clots than this vaccine,

Right. He’s a damn football player.

I don’t know if Mahomes has gotten the vaccine or not. I hope he does, just so we can essentially rule him out as a potential COVID quarantine case next year and possibly beyond. In the end, though, it’s not our place to pry into his life like that.

Josh didn’t have to answer that question.

Lol I'm sure you're an expert on other countries and who they tested.

Want to know how I know you're an idiot?

Other countries did in fact test people, much better and more efficiently in fact.

Seems like what you're laughing at is more or less the media's interpretation of science for clickbait articles and basically the marketing side of science.

The actual science is pretty much irrefutable. Science isn't 100% guarantees like the media reports it, or when the CDC says "getting back to normal in a year" when they actually mean there's some percentage of a chance to do so in order to talk people into doing what's theoretically the best course of action.

It wasn't ever "wash your hands and wear a mask and no one will die"... it started with washing hands/social distancing to slow down the spread. And when that didn't work, it was wearing masks. And when that didn't work, it was shutting shit down.

All of those things were the best course of action based on the information at the time for a virus that didn't exist 18 months ago.... and everyone should be aware by now that masks aren't 100%, and a mask that's 30% effective will literally slow it down by 30%, not "get back to normal" (and that's if everyone complies, which obviously hasn't happened at all). We don't know how well everything worked because we don't know how much worse it would have been had we done nothing at all.

Science gets dumbed down a lot because people in general are terrible at math and want to know without a doubt what's going to happen in the future.... well, science isn't about crystal-balling, it's about logically coming to conclusions based on the data provided at the time and then modifying the conclusion as more data becomes available.

And people don't like that. :shrug:

tl;dr... stop watching the news and with any article that says "a new study says...", go find that study and read what it really said.

That wasn't an argument. It was a statement and observation.

The messaging was always the problem.

From the very beginning it should have been said "this isn't going to go away unless we can suppress it to near zero, which we can't" Once it got widespread, there wasn't any slowing it until you get it or get vaccinated. Now we have variants popping up that could lead to reinfection, but it's not likely.

It wasn't ever going to be a "slow the spread for two weeks" thing.

Just tell people whole thing and let them deal with it.

Yep, and one of the interesting things about this is it showed how binary some people are.