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CasselGotPeedOn 11-01-2021 09:54 PM

I honestly don't know if Pat gets things "fixed" this season. It seems like he just needs a complete mental reset in the offseason.

TEX 11-01-2021 09:56 PM

It's time. This season is a wash.

TEX 11-01-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15927587)
Kinda.

He's not seeing the field at all and add to that he's inaccurate as hell right now. He's thrown more dirt balls the last 4 games than he did in any full year before this.

Yep.

suzzer99 11-01-2021 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15927871)
Absolutely brutal. Walk in TD right in front of him.

Who knew the LB could charge straight at the QB like that? Ben Niemann and Anthony Hitchens have taught be the best play is to hang out in no-man's land.

louie aguiar 11-01-2021 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15927871)
Absolutely brutal. Walk in TD right in front of him.

It's sad to watch. He's seeing ghosts out there. I hope he can regain his form but he looks like he's lost confidence. He's afraid to pull the trigger sometimes and when he does his throws aren't as accurate.

tredadda 11-01-2021 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15927670)
Mahomes is bad right now but the scheme is equally terrible.

No one ever seems to be open and there doesn't appear to be any urgency or ability to scheme up ways to get guys open.

Big fat fail this year from Andy and EB.

They are moving the ball. They are just turning it over far too often at the worst times. Can't scheme poor decisions and not holding on to the ball.

Nightfyre 11-01-2021 10:00 PM

I feel like Pat is watching the pass rush, where a lot of his missing magic is related to keeping his eyes downfield and reading the defense

-King- 11-01-2021 10:05 PM

As hard as I am on Hardman and the other WRs, Mahomes is compounding their weaknesses by doing that. As a WR, how do you run a real route knowing the play becomes a scramble drill a second after it starts.

RollChiefsRoll 11-01-2021 10:08 PM

Even though the past few games have been the worst stretch of Patrick’s brilliant young career, we’re still a .500 team with an opportunity to turn shit around. We’ve seen what worst-stretch-of-career-play gets the Chiefs when anybody else is the signal caller. So thankful that we’ve got a QB like #15–who’s so goddamn good a little rough patch like this has us hitting the panic button. Dude’s gonna get it figured out, I have no doubt.

I’m ride or die for this ****ing QB till he hangs up the cleats.

Hammock Parties 11-01-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 15927794)
The Super Bowl may have broken Pat. I hope it’s temporary. Jesus, he gets spooked so easily now.

This isn't true. The WFT, PHI and CLE games prove it.

Patrick is working out the kinks. He was better tonight.

Megatron96 11-01-2021 10:47 PM

The one bright point: as bad as the Chiefs have played through the first 8 games, they are the only .500 team of the teams with 13+ turn-overs this season. And all of those teams are 3+ losses below .500.

But this is a bad team. Patrick might've credited the defense with winning that game, but against one of the worst (if not the worst) OLs in the NFL they only managed to sack Jones 3 times and had only a single TFL. There were other flashes and bright spots, but not nearly enough of them. The fact is that most of the game Jones had a pretty clean pocket. Clean enough that he managed to throw TWO TOUCHDOWNS on us.

The turn-overs are the worst though. 19 T/Os in the first 8 games. That has to be some kind of record. Nobody can seem to hang onto the gaddang ball. And Patrick is the worst of them. Responsible for 11 of them. 11. Jesus wept. Do you guys realize that Daniel "I can't feel pressure" Jones finished that game with a higher PASSER RATING than Mahomes? And not by just a couple points, but like 22 points. Patrick looks hesitant, he bails out of the right side of the pocket way too much, and now he can't aim.

But somehow we're still a .500 team.

I'll be honest, I don't think this team makes the playoffs. It looks a lot like a 7-10 season at this point. There's just too much to fix with the OL and the DL. And the secondary. And the ball security thing. And the drops.

But I won't be shocked if they do turn it around somehow either. Mahomes and the Chiefs could pull a miracle out of their asses and rattle off 12 straight wins. It's not like we haven't seen them do similar fantastical things before.

But I'm not holding my breath.

TEX 11-02-2021 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15928159)
The one bright point: as bad as the Chiefs have played through the first 8 games, they are the only .500 team of the teams with 13+ turn-overs this season. And all of those teams are 3+ losses below .500.

But this is a bad team. Patrick might've credited the defense with winning that game, but against one of the worst (if not the worst) OLs in the NFL they only managed to sack Jones 3 times and had only a single TFL. There were other flashes and bright spots, but not nearly enough of them. The fact is that most of the game Jones had a pretty clean pocket. Clean enough that he managed to throw TWO TOUCHDOWNS on us.

The turn-overs are the worst though. 19 T/Os in the first 8 games. That has to be some kind of record. Nobody can seem to hang onto the gaddang ball. And Patrick is the worst of them. Responsible for 11 of them. 11. Jesus wept. Do you guys realize that Daniel "I can't feel pressure" Jones finished that game with a higher PASSER RATING than Mahomes? And not by just a couple points, but like 22 points. Patrick looks hesitant, he bails out of the right side of the pocket way too much, and now he can't aim.

But somehow we're still a .500 team.

I'll be honest, I don't think this team makes the playoffs. It looks a lot like a 7-10 season at this point. There's just too much to fix with the OL and the DL. And the secondary. And the ball security thing. And the drops.

But I won't be shocked if they do turn it around somehow either. Mahomes and the Chiefs could pull a miracle out of their asses and rattle off 12 straight wins. It's not like we haven't seen them do similar fantastical things before.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Won't happen. IMO, they'll soon be 4-7 and the struggle will be to finish above .500. They'll miss the playoffs this year. The Ravens and Charger games were killer losses, and they're gonna pay for them during the next stretch of the season.

crayzkirk 11-02-2021 06:48 AM

I really hope Patrick is okay, he doesn't look like what we are used to. I wonder if he has some nagging injury that's bothering him. He took a lot of hits at the end of last year and at some point in everyone's life, you realize that you are mortal and can be injured. A lot has changed in these past four years of his life and given that we all only have 100% to give, what part is football currently at? We don't even really know the man, what would the pressure and responsibility of $500,000,000 do to anyone? HE IS HUMAN AFTER ALL.

ChiefRocka 11-02-2021 07:13 AM

Anyone else catch the limping when he ran outside last night. My guess his toe is still jacked and its affecting his front foot on throws and the velocity on his passes is down, hence more defections and off throws. We wont know full extent intil after the season but its obvious right now

Red Dawg 11-02-2021 07:24 AM

No reason to panic. Mahomes and Andy have zero idea of what to do and now we know it. Teams cover up on Travis and Hill and can easily handle the other losers we have at WR. How many times did they show that last night.

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