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MahomesMagic 04-27-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16264018)
yeah, well...that's just like...YOUR opinion, man.

Where do you expect London to get drafted?

Chris Meck 04-27-2022 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16264032)
Where do you expect London to get drafted?

middle of the first.

Doesn't mean I have to like him. I see a 50/50 ball guy. I see no explosion, no speed. I just don't think he IS Mike Evans, I think he's a slower Mike Evans and I don't think that's going to do much in the NFL.

Just my opinion, I don't care if you agree really. I've already wasted more time talking about London this morning than I'd prefer.

CupidStunt 04-27-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16261890)
It's a huge concern for me. Others on here say he plays faster than he tests. But the tape on him still looks slow to me. He works in RPO situations though.

What "tape" are you watching?

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MahomesMagic 04-27-2022 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16264041)
middle of the first.

Doesn't mean I have to like him. I see a 50/50 ball guy. I see no explosion, no speed. I just don't think he IS Mike Evans, I think he's a slower Mike Evans and I don't think that's going to do much in the NFL.

Just my opinion, I don't care if you agree really. I've already wasted more time talking about London this morning than I'd prefer.

I don't see Mike Evans either.


Maybe a giant Thielen. 6'5'' guy that runs NFL routes and has strength/agility on the ball is going to work for quite a few teams.

I don't think he makes it past 10 with the Jets.

Possession #1 WR.

ToxSocks 04-27-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 16264050)
What "tape" are you watching?

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Oh look it's that one play from Alabama again that everyone uses to reference his speed.

Nothing personal, it's just hilarious how often this clip is used to defend the "he's faster than he times" narrative.

Nice play and all. Now go find the clip of him running a WR reverse and it's like watching a goddamn TE trying to turn the corner.

There's clips of him playing faster than he times. There's also clips of him playing as slow as he times. His speed is certainly debateable.

ToxSocks 04-27-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16263220)
No, I see AJ Brown.

which is fine. that's a useful player.

AJ Brown is the comparison i wanna make too, but AJ Brown is a better athlete and tested higher.

ToxSocks 04-27-2022 12:50 PM

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Georgia's George Pickens is a true outside X receiver who could rise into the late first round. He could also go deep into Day 2, due in part to off-the-field concerns. Pickens told me that he believes his range is Nos. 25 to 45, and the Packers, Chiefs and Cardinals are among teams that have done lots of homework on him.

Pickens told me he believes he's the draft's best wideout because "as a big target that can run 4.4 [40], I can do what [other receivers] can along with having size. ... When you can do all of those things [at 6-foot-3], it's a no-brainer."

Pickens says he takes pride in blocking, comes from a pro-style system at Georgia and has closely studied the greats, such as Davante Adams and Cooper Kupp.

Several NFL execs believe Pickens, on talent alone, would be talked about among the top five receivers, but teams have some concerns. Pickens was suspended for a half-game at Georgia and had a well-publicized fight with a Georgia Tech player in the end zone. He also tore his ACL in March 2021 and caught only five passes this past season.

Pickens believes he has matured since that fight. "The internet can portray you in different ways, but seeing me in a different light, I believe teams were pleasantly surprised," Pickens said. "A lot of teams wanted to get to know me personally, so I took a few business trips and believe they saw that side of me." -- Fowler

Dunerdr 04-27-2022 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16264788)
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What are the off field issues? Just the knee? I've seen him sliding over the last two weeks and several people saying he could slide to the back of the second.

ToxSocks 04-27-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16260811)
I don't think there's anything hidden about George Pickens' concerns.

I mentioned it over a month ago with my first eval of him. I noticed a lot of "extra" going on after plays. You can note numerous corners that clearly had some bad intent for him. Giving him "the business". Clearly an indication of some jawing going on.

He has a play where he got tackled and grabs the defenders face mask and yanks it around.

He was penalized for squirting gaterade on an opposing player while on the sideline.

On his first game back from injury he was thrown out after getting into a fight on the field. He grabbed dude's facemask and threw him into the wall by his helmet.

There were some serious character red flags ON the field, so it's not surprising to see these scouting rumors.

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16265037)
What are the off field issues? Just the knee? I've seen him sliding over the last two weeks and several people saying he could slide to the back of the second.

There ya go. Granted, that's ON the field. I haven't heard a peep about "Off-Field". I'm assuming what they mean by "Off-the Field issues", is a poorly worded way of saying character concerns due to him being an immature hot-head on the field.


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