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htismaqe 11-07-2022 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16585870)
We signed this piece of shit?
No, we actually didn't sign him. :evil:

Megatron96 11-07-2022 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16585788)
I'm not sure many thought that. However given Reids track record many thought he was more of a next year option so they wouldn't have to re-sign hardman. I was pleasantly surprised he was worked in right away
I actually hoped Toney would get more snaps last night, but it wa a good showing anyway.

God, I hope Toney keeps getting more snaps this season.

But Hardman is balling right now. Making a real case to keep him next season.

htismaqe 11-07-2022 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16585898)
I actually hoped Toney would get more snaps last night, but it wa a good showing anyway.

God, I hope Toney keeps getting more snaps this season.

But Hardman is balling right now. Making a real case to keep him next season.
Hardman is on pace for about 50 catches and he's the 3rd leading pass catcher on the team after JJSS and Kelce. However, he's got 2 more receptions than MVS and almost 100 yards less.

I like Mecole and he's been playing well but he's still not probably worth what he can get on the open market. Somebody will overpay for the speed.

Eleazar 11-07-2022 12:38 PM
I liked what little I saw from him. Be curious to see where he is a month from now and at playoff time.

Eleazar 11-07-2022 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16585920)
Hardman is on pace for about 50 catches and he's the 3rd leading pass catcher on the team after JJSS and Kelce. However, he's got 2 more receptions than MVS and almost 100 yards less.

I like Mecole and he's been playing well but he's still not probably worth what he can get on the open market. Somebody will overpay for the speed.
I understand why Hardman would leave and I understand why we'd let him. Nothing against Hardman at all, but I wonder if Toney might end up helping us more long term

ToxSocks 11-07-2022 12:47 PM
Hardman and Toney aren't the same kind of player. No, Toney is not a replacement for Hardman.

These guys couldn't be more different in skill sets.

If you can keep Hardman on a cheap contract you do it. No idea what his market will be like.

raybec 4 11-07-2022 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16585860)
Reid says he was on a snap count but loved his blocking

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Some of his blocks were unbelievable. He&#39;s a tough kid.&quot;<br><br>- Coach Reid on Kadarius Toney, who made his Chiefs&#39; debut last night. Toney also caught two passes for 12 yards.</p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1589682462954700802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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TLO 11-07-2022 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16585954)
Hardman and Toney aren't the same kind of player. No, Toney is not a replacement for Hardman.

These guys couldn't be more different in skill sets.

If you can keep Hardman on a cheap contract you do it. No idea what his market will be like.
I don't think Hardman will be back. Some team will overpay for him just like Conley, Robinson, etc

Is Pringle even in the league anymore?

Megatron96 11-07-2022 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16585920)
Hardman is on pace for about 50 catches and he's the 3rd leading pass catcher on the team after JJSS and Kelce. However, he's got 2 more receptions than MVS and almost 100 yards less.

I like Mecole and he's been playing well but he's still not probably worth what he can get on the open market. Somebody will overpay for the speed.
Stats be damned.

Hardman had the only receiving TD, and he's been making tough catches in big moments in crowds all season. Can't deny any of that, or that we lose this game without his contributions. He's been as integral a part of the offense as anyone this season, making drive-saving catches or runs that have led to scores and ultimately Ws.

Prove me wrong, buddy.:)

ToxSocks 11-07-2022 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Hill (Post 16585959)
I don't think Hardman will be back. Some team will overpay for him just like Conley, Robinson, etc

Is Pringle even in the league anymore?
Pringle started the season taking starter reps with the Bears.

I don't think anyone overpaid Conley or Robinson.

But i could see some team going all Christian Kirk on Hardman.

I could also see teams realizing what he really is and thus have a real soft market, allowing the Chiefs to retain him.

htismaqe 11-07-2022 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16585969)
Stats be damned.

Hardman had the only receiving TD, and he's been making tough catches in big moments in crowds all season. Can't deny any of that, or that we lose this game without his contributions. He's been as integral a part of the offense as anyone this season, making drive-saving catches or runs that have led to scores and ultimately Ws.

Prove me wrong, buddy.:)
Don't get me wrong. Again, I like Hardman and I definitely agree with you that he's been very clutch.

It just comes down to what he's worth. If we see a WR market like we saw this past spring, he's going to get paid a lot more than he's worth by someone.

Pitt Gorilla 11-07-2022 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16585860)
Reid says he was on a snap count but loved his blocking

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Some of his blocks were unbelievable. He&#39;s a tough kid.&quot;<br><br>- Coach Reid on Kadarius Toney, who made his Chiefs&#39; debut last night. Toney also caught two passes for 12 yards.</p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1589682462954700802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He murdered a DE. That was insane.

ToxSocks 11-07-2022 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16585455)
THIS KID IS A GAMER!!!!!!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="lt" dir="ltr">Kadarius ������ <a href="https://t.co/vusmxZoHDO">pic.twitter.com/vusmxZoHDO</a></p>&mdash; Lᴀᴡʀᴇɴᴄᴇ Tʏɴᴇs (@lt4kicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/lt4kicks/status/1589441961513340929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#19 he knocks the shit out of that defender then pivots to get open
Should be quoted as, "Watch Kadarius do it his hardest".

Pitt Gorilla 11-07-2022 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16585170)
Starting to get really concerned for Moore. Rookie struggles are one thing, but he seems to have a non-existent football IQ. Remember Mahomes getting in his face for not getting downfield properly on a free play he'd chucked down there for him.
Moore will be fine. He's a rookie, while Toney clearly is not. Lot of talent on this offense.

ToxSocks 11-07-2022 01:08 PM
Side note: Mahomes rolled away from Toney right after knocking that defender on his ass. But man....had Mahomes been able to get him the ball there to give him a chance 1v1 in space...big play potential.


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