Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17457564)

Go back to that clip above. Look at :03/:13 seconds just as examples. You're the DB: tell me what the proper way is to tackle that guy in those two examples please. I mean, I only played a couple years in HS, and was never more than a backup/utility player, so you tell me; how is he supposed to tackle those players 'properly' without doing what he did in both cases.

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17457569)

That and the very strong likelihood that they'd be dead, especially Tua.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17457572)

1) Take a better angle or
2) Slow the player down and wait for help.

I don't think anyone's arguing that this could result in a few extra yards. That's no different than essentially every safety-related change they've made to the game, and yet we're all still watching.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17457500)

I haven't been paying close attention to this, but I'm a little surprised to see people against banning the tackle type that almost cost us a Super Bowl. It seems like every time this kind of tackle happens the player is getting hurt, so it won't bother me to see them come down on it.

As for the arguments that they're ruining the game by eliminating offense or whatever, that doesn't make a ton of sense to me. The NFL is more popular than ever after two decades of neutering defenses. You can have your 7-6 final score games - I'll take offensive excitement.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17457564)

Go back to that clip above. Look at :03/:13 seconds just as examples. You're the DB: tell me what the proper way is to tackle that guy in those two examples please. I mean, I only played a couple years in HS, and was never more than a backup/utility player, so you tell me; how is he supposed to tackle those players 'properly' without doing what he did in both cases.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17457589)

If I’m not mistaken the hip drop tackle isn’t being enforced. It’s more the swivel tackle where they don’t want you landing on the dudes legs. It still seems a bit broad and subjective. But just for context, league said they saw it something like 200 times and about 7% got injured. That is very very high especially when these injuries tend to be very serious.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17457604)

Again, look at the tape and explain how the defense is supposed to make those tackles?


I mean I get it’s a dangerous tackle. What I don’t get is exactly how the defenders are supposed to make those tackles differently without giving up more yards or possibly even a TD.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17457611)

NOOOOOOO!!! Hip drop tackles are what made me a fan!

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17457618)

https://youtu.be/5KJ9mCbS3rU?si=078ye8udUjAAh9oT
This is a pretty interesting video looking at it from a rugby perspective. The main theme is just trying to avoid tackles that put lots of pressure on the knees and lower body. Football is of course a different animal but a lot of interesting thoughts here.

Every time I see a guys legs pinned under with upper body twisting I cringe.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17457604)

Again, look at the tape and explain how the defense is supposed to make those tackles?


I mean I get it’s a dangerous tackle. What I don’t get is exactly how the defenders are supposed to make those tackles differently without giving up more yards or possibly even a TD.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17457618)

https://youtu.be/5KJ9mCbS3rU?si=078ye8udUjAAh9oT
This is a pretty interesting video looking at it from a rugby perspective. The main theme is just trying to avoid tackles that put lots of pressure on the knees and lower body. Football is of course a different animal but a lot of interesting thoughts here.

Every time I see a guys legs pinned under with upper body twisting I cringe.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17457611)

NOOOOOOO!!! Hip drop tackles are what made me a fan!

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 17457660)

It was over as soon as they made players wear hard shell helmets with facemasks. This used to be a mans sport, DAMNIT!!!!