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gordonelloyd 07-22-2024 10:51 AM

This argument just reinforces what an incredibly talented team San Francisco has. They have top 10 and even top 5 players in so many positions. Definitely CB, LB, DL, OT, TE, RB and 1 or maybe even 2 at WR. And I think you can make a case Purdy is a top 10 quarterback.

And yet they lost to us, should have lost to Detroit other than that fluke Ayuik touchdown, and got destroyed by the ravens. Hard to know what gives.

It’s great to be a Chiefs fan. We are so lucky. It must be so frustrating to be a San Francisco fan.

ThaVirus 07-22-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17595574)
What a stupid ****ing comparison and false equivalence.

Deebo and Aiyuk are on the same team, and the WR1/X is not Deebo. It's been this way for the last 2 years.

You keep saying this like it means that Aiyuk is better than Deebo when in reality it’s because Aiyuk can’t do the things Deebo can. Shanahan is an offensive guru. He knows it’d make no sense to make Deebo strictly an X and make Aiyuk the Z, which is the more vertatile position.

Was Tyreek even an X in KC?

staylor26 07-22-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17595750)
You keep saying this like it means that Aiyuk is better than Deebo when in reality it’s because Aiyuk can’t do the things Deebo can. Shanahan is an offensive guru. He knows it’d make no sense to make Deebo strictly an X and make Aiyuk the Z, which is the more vertatile position.

Was Tyreek even an X in KC?

Aiyuk isn't just the X, he's also the teams leading WR the last 2 years, and I know Deebo missed a lot of time, but he also had more YPG as well. He's their WR1 100%.

Again, you're trying to argue against facts. This isn't an opinion.

Here's the overwhelming majority of 49ers fans on Reddit acknowledging who their WR1 is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comme...eebo_as_the_1/

staylor26 07-22-2024 11:30 AM

Also, saying "Aiyuk can't do the things Deebo can" while not acknowledging that 100% goes both way proves how either disingenuous or clueless you actually are.

Deebo can't run routes or separate like Aiyuk, you know, two of the most important qualities in a WR.

Megatron96 07-22-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17595077)
I think you summed up pretty well why Deebo is more valuable in the 49ers offense.



Well, yeah. I said from the beginning that Deebo is more critical to the efficiency of the SF offense than Aiyuk.

The separate question is whether or not Aiyuk is a top-10 WR, which I believe he is. Statistically, it's not even a question. He's easily top-10 based off of his 2023 stats.

Valiant 07-22-2024 02:31 PM

Great talent but they need that money for the QB next year after paying CMC and deebo.

Of course they can pay him probably but lose other pieces.

Wise thing is trade for 1sts and use that money.

But if they do pay and have to get rid of people next year. Kittle can form a great te tandem with Kelce here for a couple years.

ThaVirus 07-22-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17595773)
Aiyuk isn't just the X, he's also the teams leading WR the last 2 years, and I know Deebo missed a lot of time, but he also had more YPG as well. He's their WR1 100%.

Again, you're trying to argue against facts. This isn't an opinion.

Here's the overwhelming majority of 49ers fans on Reddit acknowledging who their WR1 is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comme...eebo_as_the_1/

Doesn’t really matter. You keep harping on who’s the X like it matters in this day and age.

Aiyuk is the X because it suits his skillset. He is closer to the prototypical X. He’s 6’ with a 6’8” (which is ****ing absurd, by the way lol).

Deebo was never suited for that role given his body type and skill set. And contrary to the picture you’re trying to paint, that doesn’t mean Aiyuk is better than Deebo. Hell, Aiyuk was the X in 2021 when Deebo went off for 1400 receiving yards.

Tyreek is the best WR this franchise has ever seen even though he wasn’t a traditional X. It really means nothing.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17595818)
Also, saying "Aiyuk can't do the things Deebo can" while not acknowledging that 100% goes both way proves how either disingenuous or clueless you actually are.

Deebo can't run routes or separate like Aiyuk, you know, two of the most important qualities in a WR.

Deebo is better at running routes and playing the stereotypical WR role than Aiyuk is at playing the multipurpose gadget role.

You wouldn’t dispute that, would you? Aiyuk had 1350 receiving yards and only 380 were RAC. He is effectively ineffective with the ball in his hands.

Megatron96 07-22-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17596167)
Great talent but they need that money for the QB next year after paying CMC and deebo.

Of course they can pay him probably but lose other pieces.

Wise thing is trade for 1sts and use that money.

But if they do pay and have to get rid of people next year. Kittle can form a great te tandem with Kelce here for a couple years.






Lol, that would be insane.

staylor26 07-22-2024 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17596195)
Doesn’t really matter. You keep harping on who’s the X like it matters in this day and age.

Aiyuk is the X because it suits his skillset. He is closer to the prototypical X. He’s 6’ with a 6’8” (which is ****ing absurd, by the way lol).

Deebo was never suited for that role given his body type and skill set. And contrary to the picture you’re trying to paint, that doesn’t mean Aiyuk is better than Deebo. Hell, Aiyuk was the X in 2021 when Deebo went off for 1400 receiving yards.

Tyreek is the best WR this franchise has ever seen even though he wasn’t a traditional X. It really means nothing.



Deebo is better at running routes and playing the stereotypical WR role than Aiyuk is at playing the multipurpose gadget role.

You wouldn’t dispute that, would you? Aiyuk had 1350 receiving yards and only 380 were RAC. He is effectively ineffective with the ball in his hands.

JFC the entire point of that post you quoted was me explaining to you that he's not just the X, he's also the WR1 and has led the team in receiving the last 2 years (and YPG for the injury excuse), and you completely ignore that part to tell me why him being the X is irrelevant.

AGAIN, he's not just the X. He's their WR1. This isn't debatable, and as I showed you, the majority of 49ers fans recognize this as does the team let the insider I quoted. In no way is a WR2 better than a WR1 because he's more versatile and can play RB. This is the point I've been making and you refuse to address it.

Aiyuk runs routes and separates better. Deebo is more versatile and is better after the catch because of his running ability.

Which skill set is more valuable? There's a reason WRs make a shit ton more than RBs. CMC is the most "important" player on that offense, still doesn't mean he's getting paid more than their WRs.

ThaVirus 07-22-2024 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17596216)
Which skill set is more valuable?.

The one the team goes 0-3 without.

Suck my balls, bitch lol

staylor26 07-22-2024 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17596242)
The one the team goes 0-3 without.

Suck my balls, bitch lol

Oh this is 100% a ****ing tapout. What a lazy argument.

You've really demonstrated how much of a disingenuous bundle of sticks you are in this discussion.

Bump 07-22-2024 03:37 PM

has anyone traded for this piece of shit yet?

ThaVirus 07-22-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17596259)
Oh this is 100% a ****ing tapout. What a lazy argument.

You've really demonstrated how much of a disingenuous bundle of sticks you are in this discussion.

Call it whatever you like to preserve your fragile ego.

I said my piece, you said yours. No one wants to read us rehash the same points we’ve already made anymore.

staylor26 07-22-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17596318)
Call it whatever you like to preserve your fragile ego.

I said my piece, you said yours. No one wants to read us rehash the same points we’ve already made anymore.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my ego. You've been dodging my argument(s) this entire time.

smithandrew051 07-22-2024 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17596296)
has anyone traded for this piece of shit yet?

Traded Skyy Moore for him. Straight up.

Veach strikes again.


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