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Bringing him in here to be the long term answer is silly. |
15 positions of need?
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And if they bring in Alex Smith, we better make the playoffs. |
Alex Smith will get a starting job somewhere. No doubt.
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There is NO guarantee that the top QB in the draft picks up where Smith left off this season in San Fran. |
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Alex Smith also can't finish drives and is terrible in the red zone at getting 6. At least he was last year.
I just don't want the guy. He's an average QB, that's a big upgrade for us and all but I'd rather just ****ing draft a guy for crying out loud. |
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It's been awhile. I think Eli was the last guy who sat. |
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The guy wants to start and should be a starter somewhere. |
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For those of you who are gonna have a borderline coronary reading this I said "IF!" And I'm not saying this is the only way to go either. |
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I actually would. |
Chiefs are leaking a lot of info out. Again you can't believe leaked info or rumors you hear this time if year. Things will pick up in late April when we start negotiating with agents
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There's no need to move Albert to the G position. That's just plain dumb.
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Harbaugh had him on a short leash. |
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I don't necessarily think that if we draft a guy he automatically has to start right now. It's just going to depend on the player.
I'll trust Reid/Pederson/Nagy to make that analysis. Pederson gets a ton of credit for mentoring McNabb. |
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You are the most delusional person this forum has ever seen. And trust me, we've seen a lot since it was created in 2000. |
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Otherwise, terms like "Bust" will be thrown around immediately, unfairly or not. It would be a P.R. disaster as well. |
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If say Geno seriously grades out to be the 16th to 32nd best player in the draft I like to think we can do that at value next year or the year after. That's why suddenly signing someone like Alex Smith would be a viable option. Going back to your scenario, there's no way for me to guarantee that any QB taken in the above range will ever play like Dalton or Flacco. So I really can't answer that. I guess, to partially answer your question, IF there were a magic crystal ball showing me for sure that Geno plays like the Flacco of late within a year or two, then I would say yes, I would take him with the 1st pick. |
Albert to G, draft best player available and how they love Tyler Wilson. Think about it, nobody knows what KC is gonna do. The talking heads have inside sources. Every team leaks info out. That's why you shouldn't believe it. Wait until they start talking to the players agent.
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But the fact is, if Alex Smith makes just one or two plays, Kyle Williams never gets the opportunity to muff the second punt. Alex Smith converted 1 of 13 first down opportunities. That one conversion was a meaningless coversion as the first half was running out. Alex Smith is more responsible for that loss than Kyle Williams. |
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I didn't say he's moving to G. The Chiefs are gonna leak all kinds of false info out. Get used to it. This happens every year
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It's coming from dumbshit talking heads in the media. |
Even if we sign Albert, these talking heads are gonna say they're moving Albert to G and they'll draft a LT. Let Dorsey and Reid complete their draft board and draft the BPA
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We sign Albert and the media will still say draft Joeckel and put Albert at G or RT.
If we come out and say that Albert is our LT, then the media will say draft Star because he's now the BPA. It's a dumb, vicious cycle. |
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If we take a LT that only gave up one sack and replace him with a project and use the first overall pick to do so, the team should get the rest of their draft picks taken from them as a punishment for being so dumb.
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Star was afraid to go to the SR bowl. Can't take him at one. And take a non pass rushing DL that early? No thanks.
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Joeckel is actually a great LT. He's not Ogden like Miller says, but he's a great prospect. However, I don't want to start building around a LT, especially when we already have a very capable guy who is just finishing a rookie contract.
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The Raiders will love it when Hali and Houston are abusing his ass. |
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D'Brickashaw Ferguson is a great example. Russell Okung. And if you count ALL first round tackles, the list is endless. Joeckel isn't Joe Thomas. He's not even Jake Long. Let's also not inflate his stock just because this is the worst group of non-QBs I've seen at the top of a draft in a long time. |
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Might look back on this draft and laugh that Patterson isn't getting more love.
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Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.
Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this. When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed. |
Kyle Orton is a great example of how a qb can change a team. Average at best qb probably takes this team to the playoffs in 2011 had he played more games.
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People forget that continuity has a ton to do with success in football, not only from the coaching standpoint, but your signal caller with that coaching staff. We need to get a guy in that hasn't peaked yet and can grow with the system our new FO is establishing. Waiting a year puts everything on hold. |
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Haha, just saw this over at the Steelers section of SBNation in a mock draft.
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You list players that have been successful. There is a huge list of players that this attitude would not work for. |
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You are correct DeBerg. Doesn't mean we have to like it but it is the reality how franchises look at it. Good franchises don't knee jerk and reach even if it is a desperate need. If they don't deem there to be a elite QB to take at #1, they won't reach over other more highly rated prospects.
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I can understand the reach statement if we were drafting 10th. Let's say there are three QB's off the board. You don't just draft a QB just because in that situation because you might believe none of them are worth it. Someone is worth the number 1 pick. It's the FO's job to figure out who that is and draft them. No matter where they're expected to go (within reason). |
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There is not one single "can't miss" guy in this draft. Moore has question marks. Joeckel has question marks. Star has question marks. Jones has 1 HUGE question mark. EVERY SINGLE GUY at the top of this draft has flaws. Every one of them has the potential to be a huge bust. |
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That's what people say everytime there isn't a QB that is clearly the #1 pick. |
I actually I would argue there are some can't miss LT's, DT's and Rush DE/OLB's in this draft. There is no can't miss QB yes but to say other positions are a lie.
There may be no one guy that stands above everyone else but doesn't mean there isn't multiple guys that aren't immediate impact long term pro bowl prospects. |
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Eric Fisher (especially after owning this week) Damontre Moore Jarvis Jones You don't think these guys are legit top 5 talent? |
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Fisher looks like the real deal to me. If we can't re-sign Albert, he could be a consideration. Moore I personally think is a stud but he's a tweener and people have questioned his ceiling. Jarvis Jones - spinal stenosis. Again, there are ZERO "can't" miss prospects in this draft. All of those guys have question marks... EDIT: I just noticed your qualifier about "top 5" talent. All of these guys save Jones are top 5 talents, as are Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson. I'm talking about specifically being worth the CHIEFS pick at #1. |
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Aside from the busted run play in the bowl game, Lewan made Jadeveon Clowney, the best pass rusher in college, his bitch all game long. I've never seen so much ownage. Lewan is one nasty SOB too. I think he'll be a better prospect than Jake Long next season barring a huge letdown/injury. |
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