Yup been saying that for awhile now. Good size, great arm, and produced vs a tough level of competition.

He called out his team earlier this year.

Hrmmm....Murray is a guy we don't talk about on here but maybe we should. What if he does come out? Man, that would really muddy things up.

I don't know why he doesn't get more love around here.

Seems like for most people it's either Barkley or Smith.

Wilson should be right in that mix with those two IMO. He doesn't have the weapons the other two have and has done it in the SEC among a train wreck program.

I agree

Wilson is my 1b after Smith. I have Barkley below both.

Short and with a marginal arm.

He's a less polished, shorter version of Barkley. From what I've seen he is very much a rhythm passer. He can get on rolls and when he is, he's dangerous. But he also seems to go into funks.

I like Murray quite a bit, but he does appear to have some physical limitations that may prevent him from really becoming an above average QB.

He's not a top 20 pick, but you could do worse than him in the 2nd.

probably a repost, butTony Dungy thinks Murray is QB for Chiefs.

“@CoachCox8100: @TonyDungy who should chiefs take with first or 2nd pick in the draft?” I would take Georgia QB Aaron Murray if he comes out

Matt Barkley is a FRAUD.

Arm talent
Barkley is a classic drop-back passer with sound throwing mechanics and a smooth delivery. He shows a compact windup and an over-the-top throwing motion with a quick release. Barkley displays good (but not great) arm strength on intermediate and deep throws. Although his balls tend to flutter on out-breaking routes that are longer than 15 yards, he shows adequate zip and velocity on his throws. Barkley can certainly fit balls into tight windows on intermediate throws inside the numbers, but he lacks the overpowering arm strength to complete the deep comeback from the opposite hash on a rope against tight coverage. The exceptional speed and quickness of NFL defensive backs will result in break-ups or interceptions, unless Barkley shows extraordinary timing and anticipation, releasing the ball well before the receiver comes out of his break.

On deep throws, Barkley shows a 50-to-55-yard throwing range. He has routinely connected with Lee and Nelson Agholor on vertical routes down the field. While most of those completions have resulted from his exceptional timing and anticipation, Barkley has shown the arm strength to throw the ball over the top of the defense when defenders squat on routes. This was particularly evident against Oregon on Nov. 3, when he connected on 75- and 76-yard touchdowns on deep post routes to Lee and Agholor, respectively. In my mind, these throws certainly squelched some of the concern about his deep-ball ability. However, the fallout from "Inflate Gate" (a USC ball boy was reprimanded following that game for deflating footballs, which he later admitted to doing; the use of underinflated balls makes it easier for quarterbacks to throw the ball down the field with greater zip and velocity) could alter that opinion.

With the arm talent to make most of the throws at the next level, Barkley shouldn't have a problem succeeding as a starting quarterback, if he plays to his strengths.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...rback-prospect

Ahh Bucky Brooks.
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The same Bucky Brooks who picked the Chiefs to win the West.

:shake:

Off the Barkley bandwagon already?

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Bucky Brooks has nothing to do with Ballgate. Barkley had his best game with his best throws against against Oregon...with deflated footballs.

That arm strength is gonna be exposed now.

Murray won't declare

What's his excuse for last years great performances and whats yours for being a dumbass?

Pass on every QB the next 3 years and wait for Manziel herpateederp.

That seems to be what people are saying.

Stunningly reeruned, isn't it?

But, but, but the FLAWS. Dey know Luck!!!!!! Cassel can hold the fort down for another couple seasons!!!

'12 (spring): Redskins gave up too much for RGIII.
'12 (late fall): There's no one as talented as RGIII in this draft. /True Fans

Spring '12: I'd draft Ryan Tannehill at 15 or later, but not at 11. Dolphins don't know what the **** they're doing. We should just wait until next year when Matt Barkley is there.

Fall '12: I'd draft Matt Barkley at 10 or later, but not at 1 overall. Dude's not worth it. We should just wait until next year when Tyler Bray is there.

Here was his full quote. Nothing wrong with it (IMO) when your team suffers its worse home defeat in 30 years:
“I’ll start with the football game. First of all, it wasn’t very pretty to watch. It wasn’t pretty to sit on the sideline and watch as a player, it sucks I can’t do anything about it. Do I feel that we, at times, gave up out there? Absolutely. As a leader it sucks to see people not do their jobs and to see things go wrong, there has been a lot of things go that way. As a leader, at this point you have to look forward. There has been a lot of people jump off of the bandwagon and it is my job to keep everyone in this organization and this team in that locker room together. I am going to make sure of it going forward. We’ve got a big game against Rutgers next week. I am going to do everything in my power to be a part of it and be the starting quarterback when we run out onto the field. And most importantly, get a win. You have to start with one before you can get the rest of them. I give you my word, I am going to do the best I can to make that happen.”

if i wake up one morning to find that - after waiting 30 years - we drafted Aaron Murray, I will kill myself...i mean really - for real - like no ****ing joke i will off myself...

correct

also with a dash of
"i will never root for us to lose"
followed by
"we should have lost last year"

I hope not. I'd rather have any of the other three

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
If Bray does declare, as I'm being told he will, would be my No. 3 QB right now behind Geno Smith & Tyler Wilson. Lot of potential, big arm


God Barkley sucks....no wonder he stayed in school for 4 years.

LMAO

Scott Wright does his first scouting report. Compares him to Andy Dalton. I think that's pretty spot on.


http://www.draftcountdown.com/Scouti...tt-Barkley.php


Strengths:
• Accurate with impressive touch, timing and anticipation
• Technically sound with refined mechanics and footwork
• Able to read coverages and work through progressions
• Cool, calm and collected with superb pocket presence
• Shows ability to slide and maneuver within the pocket
• Accustomed to working under center in pro style system
• Outstanding intelligence with extremely high football IQ
• Excellent feel, awareness and understanding of game
• Mature, hard working and is a respected team leader
• A ton of experience against high-quality competition

Weaknesses:
• Adequate height but shorter than the prototype
• Lacks the arm strength to drive balls downfield
• Struggles when throwing deep / vertical routes
• Not a great athlete and won't be a threat to run
• Deficiencies masked by talented supporting cast
• May not be a good fit for every system or team
• Shaky pedigree (Leinart, Cassel, Booty, Sanchez)
• Durability concerns after multiple minor ailments

Injury History:
• Missed one game in 2009 with a bruised right shoulder
• Missed some action with a sprained right ankle in 2010
• Underwent surgery on right wrist after the 2010 season
• Missed one game in 2012 with a sprained right shoulder

Notes:
A four-year starter for the Trojans --- Became the first three-time team captain in USC history --- Attended Mater Dei High School (CA), whose alums also include John Huarte, Todd Marinovich, Matt Leinart and Colt Brennan --- A coveted and highly-decorated prep recruit who was named the 2007 Gatorade National Player of the Year --- One of the most prolific passers in Southern Cal history and name is plastered all over the programs record books --- Recipient of the 2012 Wuerffel Trophy, which honors exemplary community service with athletic and academic achievement --- Devout Christian who has spent time in both Haiti and Nigeria building homes, distributing supplies and helping those in need --- Would most likely have been a Top 10 overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft but opted to stay in school --- Was never the elite, franchise quarterback prospect that some made him out to be and a number of flaws were exposed during a very disappointing senior campaign --- Best fit may come in a West Coast Offense --- A polished signal caller who compensates for average physical tools with fantastic intangibles and profiles as a starter at next level in the right situation.

NFL Player Comparison: Andy Dalton

Andy Dalton has a much stronger arm than Barkley.

Yeah Dalton has a cannon for an arm.

From the 9 to the 31 is 60 yards. Even at that, 60 yards is not bad. I will say this I not being a Barkley supporter, this is the 1st time I have seen this play. But it changes nothing of how I feel about Barkley. That 60 yards is not always going to be there on each deep throw, nor is a WR going to be so open that he has the time to slow down and adjust the route to haul it in.

Matthew Barkley ‏@MattBarkley
Doctors haven’t cleared me to play, so I won’t be suiting up on Saturday. I’ll be here with my team to finish strong. Proud to be a Trojan!

NAILED IT

Ooof. You might have been able to Sam Bradford yourself into the top spot in 2010, Matty.

Not this year. Sorry.

Hey look: It's the Barkley Blows thread!

^LMAO

Time to unsubscribe, me thinks!

So anybody want to hop back on this bandwagon? I kept the seats warmed for alot of you. :)

Nope.

In all fairness, I just want to see us finally take a shot at a QB.

I'd prefer Geno, but if it were Wilson or Barkley, I'd be OK with it.

I could live with Wilson, but outside of those two I am going to be disappointed.

I'm in this boat too.
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Same as me. I'd prefer Barkely. But I would be tickled to death with Geno or Tyler Wilson.

:grr: :shake: :banghead: :cuss: :bang: %(/ :Lin:

Get the point.

The good thing about Barkley is that you can trade back to accumulate some picks and still grab him. That way you can horde picks for the 2015 draft when you have to take another first round QB.

This.

I just don't want to end up with Glennon or Landry Jones.

:spock:

Yeah, at all.

Barkley is pretty high on that list for me as well, truth be told. If we take him, I won't necessarily hate it, but he's going to have to prove it to me.

USC QB's have elite talent around them at literally every position they're on the field with, every play. Not saying they suck, per se, just that they won't have the luxury of playing a schedule that is full of lesser talent in the NFL where everyone is just a few degrees from each other (with a few notable exceptions every year).

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I'm disappointed that Barkley is wussing out of the bowl game.

I think Barkley could be pretty good in the WCO. And I think he could have more success early than some of the others.

This

Wussing? He has his entire pro career ahead of him to consider.

He returned his senior year to win a national championship. Oh well.

Give me Andy Reid and Barkley. I'd be happy.

Geno and Cowher, Arians or Shannahan...I'm high giving everyone and sleeping well that night.

I am on record saying I would be happy with ANY quarterback they decide to draft...so long as they draft him in the first round...but it would be cool if Geno was that guy.

Barkley sucks but he's still better than Geno .

Give me Cousins

IMHO, it's the only offense I think he could do well in, the others I just think he will be a Matt Cassel, have a few games here and there and suck the rest of the time.

Early success? As you stated , in the WCO.

Just say NO to another QB named Matt !

You're not put together properly! Are you missing something upstairs ?

Watch and Learn young'n.

Unfortunately, you have ZERO credibility around here, which means nobody cares what your opinion is. Your love affair with Matt Cassel took care of that.

You are currently the 1994 Hulk Hogan of trolls. Your shit is no longer being bought.

No qb is worth shit in this draft. No matter how hard you want it to be it just aint happening. This is the 2009 draft all over again.

We have to have that stud LB Teo.

Your no brainiac.

2002 draft class looks like a bunch of HOFs compared to this shit fest

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I think Barkley looked better under Carroll than he ever did under Kiffin. It's like he regressed after Carroll left.

Rock solid interview.
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WHAT A TWIST

Not a ****ing chance.:)

I think Barkley would be great but my heart is set on Geno Smith right now.

I would have zero issues with KC taking Matt Barkley #1 overall. I could care less about past USC Quarterbacks, or if he measures 6'0/6'1/6'5 at the combine. Barkley is the posterchild for what the media does to a good player that stays in college too long. He was easily in the discussion with Luck and RGIII last year, and I feel the Redskins would have had a tough time choosing between the two. I think the draft last year goes Luck, RGIII and a trade-up for Matt Barkley at three. Unfortunately, he came back and has been picked apart by the Kipers of the world who question this or that, etc. Bottom line is Barkley has a TON of ability, and has the same chance to succeed in the NFL as Geno, Wilson, Bray, etc.

That being said, I don't think Barkley is the best QB in this draft IMO. But I wouldn't get upset in the least bit with the pick. No matter what Barkley did this year, it wouldn't have been enough. The moment he decided to go back for his Senior year, his stock was bound to plummet.

This USC offense is awful without Barkley.

With the right coach, he will succeed.

I'm not sold on Barkley at all.

That makes 547869 of us.

i really wish he was able to play today..

Barkley is every bit as good as any other QB in this draft. USC's 2 completely BADASS wr's had horrible days. 2 WR's that people claim could make any QB look good didn't do squat. So it goes without saying maybe barkley was feeding them as much as they fed him? Much like Eric Decker and D. Thomas didn't do SQUAT until manning shows up and now they catch everything under the sun!

I'm torn between barkley/wilson as my top choice, but i still give the edge to barkley at this point

not a fan of Barkley he has tiny hands just like jimmy clausen

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011/...ng-report.html

Scouting Report:

Athleticism
+ Sturdy 230 pound frame, has added muscle mass since he arrived at USC
+ Good mobility, both inside and outside the pocket
+ Shows the ability to roll out and throw well on the run
+ Can extend the play with his maneuverability and sidestep the rush
- A shade under 6’2″, but has shown no evidence of it hindering his play
- Doesn’t offer much in terms of escapability and won’t pick up many yards with his feet

Intelligence
+ Extremely bright kid, who works hard on and off the field
+ Recognizes blitzes, formations and coverages pre-snap and often calls audibles at the line on his own
+ USC runs an NFL style passing system and Barkley has adapted quickly
+ Coach Lane Kiffin, puts a lot on Barkley’s plate in terms of play calling, audibles and he has excelled
+ Good situational awareness, when he spots a weakness on defense he will exploit it quickly
+ USC plays a hurry up system, Barkley is relied on to call the plays and formations based on the defense
+ Processes information quickly and is a sound decision maker, especially in crunch time
+ Good in the classroom, he should have no trouble adapting to an NFL playbook
- Interception % increased big time this year, tried to force a lot of throws

Leadership
+ Exceptional Leader, respected by teammates and coaching staff
+ The word “field general” comes to mind when watching him play
+ Decided to stay at USC, despite NCAA sanctions and bowl ban
+ Could have entered 2012 NFL and been a high first round pick, but wanted to win a National Championship
+ Exudes confidence and plays with a swagger, rubs off on his teammates

Arm Talent
+ Doesn’t have the strongest arm velocity wise, but has shown the ability to make the NFL throws
+ Can fit the ball into tight spaces, especially when rolling out or throwing on the run
+ Arm strength has improved as his throwing mechanics have gotten more sound
+ Isn’t scared to make the tough throw, when he resets his feet and throws he is very accurate
+ When given time in the pocket his footwork is sound
+ Makes up for velocity with quick reads, anticipation
+ Manipulates the defense like an NFL veteran, will freeze the safety and look off coverage
+ Accuracy on short passes is very good, throws the 3-5 yard slants very well
+ Timing with receivers is sound, knows where they should be and trusts them
+ Throws his receiver open and shows good anticipation on his ball placement
- Connects on a lot of deep passes, but it’often under thrown and the WR has to come back to the ball
- Falls in love with touch passes, likes to float the ball into coverage
- Deep ball accuracy wanes due to arm strength questions
- At the next level he will have to temper his desire to take so many chances down field
- Has shown inaccuracy when throwing across the field

Pocket Presence
+ Very poised in the pocket, perhaps his biggest plus
+ Doesn’t get rattled under pressure, will hang in there and take a hit to complete the pass
+ Took a beating as a Senior but hung in the pocket and tried to get the ball off
+ If his first read is covered Barkley has shown the ability to reset his feet and adjust
+ Very good moving out of the pocket, perhaps at his best when rolling out and throwing on the run
+ Excellent play action passer, sells the run fake very well
+ Recognizes blitzes and lets his internal clock tell him when to let go or take off
- With such a poor offensive line, Barkley’s internal clock got sped up as a Senior leading to mistakes
- With pass rush bearing down, he tried to make the big play when he should have just taken the sack

Overview:
Matt Barkley is a polished and poised QB prospect. He has shown the intelligence, leadership and pocket presence to make an immediate impact in the NFL. He is sharp pre-snap at identifying coverages/schemes. While he isn’t Andrew Luck, he has shown the ability to call his own plays and change things on the fly. He does a great job at processing information and making the right decision. While his arm strength is only average, his mechanics and ability to manipulate the defense with his eyes, as well as the timing and anticipatory skills he has shown make up for it. Barkley is a tremendous leader and his teammates look up to him. His biggest knock will be his height, as he is a shade under 6’2″, but Barkley is superb when rolling out and throwing on the move. Barkley endured a tough Senior season and with results not up to expectation it appeared the pressure started to get to Barkley. Despite a down Senior season Barkley still has all the tools to be a successful NFL QB.

vs Notre Dame
-Makes VERY few mistakes, if the play isn’t there he immediately checks down of gets rid of the ball.
-Ball comes out of his hand quickly, his mechanics have improved since his freshman year.
-His progressions are outstanding, scans the field an multiple times freezes the LB or safety, opening up the receiver.

Full scouting notes for Barkley vs Notre Dame.

vs Arizona
-Beautiful deep ball for 33 yard TD, gets ball out fast, tough to pressure.
-Fakes out half the Colorado defense with pump fake.
-Completed 25/39 passes, should have had more completions, but Woods and Lee each had multiple tough drops.
-Forces a throw into triple coverage, comes out wobbly, lucky it wasn’t picked.G

BOO! SUCK!