If there's any legitimacy to the Bowe trade (which I doubt) it would mean Clark has ok'd him for another year...

Pioli isn't going anywhere.

Yes.

No kidding. If it was all about Winston, it would have happened last week while it was still fresh news. This is more about getting blown out again to go to 1-5 heading into the bye week.

Bleacherreport isn't a viable source.

Bleacherreport isn't the source?

"It is understandable why Bowe wants out of Kansas City. But if the Chiefs are left with no choice and have to trade him, they must get as much as they can out of him since their NON EXISTENT passing game will be next to non-existent without their star wideout"


There:D

Who cares if a player wants to leave? Not like the team doesn't have the money or options to keep whatever player they want. I am so sick of this excuse BS.

There have been players that want to leave teams throughout the NFL. Not every player gets what he wants. Maybe if the GM and owner didn't suck so bad, players wouldn't mind getting Hunt's money, and actually want to play in KC.

But their INT game is off the chain:D

Draft Geno, and pay Bowe. He would love to stay in KC with that deal.

And Bowe won't take a discount to leave town....

If Bowe didn't care about winning, he wouldn't have committed to LSU. There's only so much that you can ask of a great player.

I love that these rumors came out the day that we learned Cassel was back to taking first team snaps. If I were Bowe, I'd take one look at that and say "Hell naw. My ass is heading to South Beach."

I don't blame Bowe for one second for wanting out of town.

To me, this is Jared Allen all over again. We have a legit playmaker. If we trade him, we'll likely get hefty compensation. That compensation could be used to move up in the draft if needed. But it also helps to ensure that we will finish the season at the bottom of the league, which is frankly of paramount importance to the future of this franchise. It would signify four mighty events:

1. Pioli getting fired.
2. Romeo getting fired.
3. Cassel being cut.
4. In position to draft Geno Smith.


I love me some D-Bowe, but if sacrificing him saves the village, then I say clean the altar and hand me the knife.

I don't want a repeat of Jared Allen, where we watch him go off and have perennial Pro Bowl years while we struggle. Then again, the Jared Allen trade did net us Branden Albert and Jamaal Charles.

All of this is moot (once again) without a QB. Bowe, to me, is more valuable as an asset to move up for Geno. I was advocating packaging him last year to move up for RG3. Alas.

It boils down to this for me:

I'd rather have Geno and no Bowe than Bowe and Cassel.

I'm pretty sure Clark Hunt burned his bridges.

spot on saphojunkie

I don't think clark has the 'nads to can him either.

Pioli will continue his ratatouille nonsense for another year or 2 before he (Clark) makes a change.

Two ****ing years. Wasted.

Drafting boy scouts and at-best 2nd stringers in the 2nd round of the draft.

Hmmm... Not sure I agree with this. Baldwin, Houston...

There no bridge burned down that a pile of money doesn't restore.

That is hilarious.

Baldwin ****ing blows so far and Houston was a gift.

If the dude hadn't been dumb enough to spark up a week before the Combine, he wouldn't have been there at #6 in the third round.

Let's not forget that Pioli chose Rodney Hudson before Houston.

:facepalm:

Way to miss the point entirely.

Houston fits the profile but he had some "leaf" in his ledger that dropped him.


I have no idea why we ever drafted Baldwin outside of the reeruned number of high throws our starting QB lobs out there...

He's new...

The link he posted is from Bleacherreport.

Never mind, you weren't involved yesterday. I was highlighting another Chiefsplanet double standard.

:facepalm:

Did you click the link? I doubt it.

I think he's saying that they weren't boy scouts.

"If Pioli doesn't care about public opinion, then why is he doing damage control across the KC media?"

Because he cares about Clark's opinion. That's all that matters to him.

I can't see Bowe staying. I don't think he ever planned on it. However, I don't think Pioli ever planned on signing him either. I think Pioli thought we would be good this year and Bowe would be the "icing on the cake" in a very good receiving corps.

At this point I hope we can get something for him. The reality is that he's a goner and we should get more than a 3rd round comp pick in 2014.

We are 1-5 and trading him is the smart thing to do.... If we can find a partner.... I read this morning that Miami doesn't want him because he is too much like Marshall...

Yes, I did click on the link. Like I said, you're not getting the point because you weren't part of yesterday's discussion.

Then he is at least pretending to care about public opinion.

Dolphins Not in Dwayne Bowe Trade Talks with Kansas City

By Kevin Nogle on Oct 17, 8:48p
Phinsider

Earlier today, rumors started swirling that Yahoo!'s NFL reporter Jason Cole had stated that the Miami Dolphins and Kansas City Chiefs were in talks to work out a deal sending wide receiver Dwayne Bowe to south Florida. The reporter clarified later today that he never reported that.

The Twitter-verse has been abuzz with talk of the Miami Dolphins and Kansas City Chiefs working on a deal to send wide receiver Dwayne Bowe to Miami. The rumors started after Yahoo! Sports' NFL reporter Jason Cole made an appearance on the Jorge Sedano Show. During the show, Cole was asked about rumors on ESPN that the Dolphins and Chiefs were in talks about a "big name player."

Cole answered that the logical target would be Dwayne Bowe, who clearly wants out of Kansas City, and the Dolphins are in need of wide receiver help. Cole also pointed out that there are plenty of reasons for Bowe to not be the target, including things like the Dolphins already dealt with Brandon Marshall, who was traded away this offseason. Would Miami want to take on another receiver who could become a diva problem for the team?

At some point during the day, that remark turned into Cole reporting the Dolphins and Chiefs were working on a deal. Which, of course, immediately spun fans into a frenzy as they tried to guess on the compensation involved, and if it would be a good deal for the Dolphins.

However, Cole tweeted this evening a clarification to his "report" from earlier today:


Just to clarify something: I'm NOT reporting the KC and Miami are talking trade over Bowe. Not yet, at least. Misunderstanding by someone
— Jason Cole (@JasonColeYahoo) October 17, 2012



@brockrademann I was asked about another report that the teams were talking. I said I had no info, but that Bowe would be a logical target.
— Jason Cole (@JasonColeYahoo) October 17, 2012



I can report this: Bowe wants out of KC very badly. Not exactly a revelation, but true.
— Jason Cole (@JasonColeYahoo) October 17, 2012


The fan frenzy today appears to be much ado about nothing at this point. However, no one is saying that this deal could not be in the works. Cole is just clarifying that he is not reporting it is in discussions. The NFL trade deadline is after next week's slate of games. Both the Chiefs and the Dolphins are on their bye weeks this week. If a deal were to be completed, now is the time.

However, looking for Miami to work out a wide receiver deal this late in the season, when the wide out would have to learn the entire offensive scheme, the hand signals Ryan Tannehill uses to orchestrate the team's no-huddle offense, and completely learn a new terminology is asking a lot. Free agent signing Jabar Gaffney has been listed as inactive the past two games because he is not up to speed on the offense. Would Bowe be able to learn the offense any faster?

http://www.thephinsider.com/2012/10/...th-kansas-city

Yep, I agree. The guy I know that's like him is all about appearence and perception.

What guy you know?

A psychopath just like Pioli. The bugging, the lying, the power hunger, having the boss under his thumb, the whole bit.

If you want to know who Pioli is, read the book Snakes in Suits.

Here's a link.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/131500...orate-psychos/

So you've given up all pretense of not being the poster formerly known as black bob?

Black Bob is dead.... he now goes by a symbol instead of a name that is really hard to draw.

so you finally took our advice and killed yourself?

The reason I say that is because you are now talking about this guy you know who's a psychopath, just like black bob did.

Yes, and I was reincarnated as a woodchuck. That will humble a man.

I come in peace.

peacefully **** yourself

with links to corporate psychopaths.


next he will link something saying all our presidents have been too.

I was just trying to help. It's a good book and if you read it, you will see the paralels to Pioli.

i'm surprised you can read

Not surprised he can't spell.

Black Bob errrrWoodchuck tell us again how Mike Vrabrel is maybe a top 3 Chief of all time?

black boob is back



ban hammer

Roger that bigdog! I said the same. Bowe will never sign here and why would he want to at this point. We need Geno and losing Bowe will probably help get him.

The Chiefs are 1-5 with Bowe and unlikely to win another game all year.

Bowe or no Bowe, Geno will be there for the Chiefs.

This, just like what Parker said about Bowe, I have never seen any documentation on Carr wanting to be a Cowboy.

LMAO

What happened to Black Bob? He get banned or something?

He died in fire.

From your mouth to God's ears to the podium in April.

Did Black Bob get banned for being reeruned? Has that ever happened before?

It use to be protocol during 2000 to 2003 way back when.

Threatened police action, lawsuit, something like that
Posted via Mobile Device

In other words got his ass handed to him and tried to save face.. LMAO

Mr Black Bob is back in force. Damn, just how many mults did he make? There's at least 3replicas I've come across.

I think he spent some time posting back and fourth agreeing with himself
Posted via Mobile Device

he has two accounts at least and i have seen them talk to each other in threads

it's kind of weird/sad/pathetic. I dont know, it's odd especially just talking about Chiefs football in a down season. I have never seen someone so passionate about Brandon Siler and his pink arm sleeves.

You gossip queens make crap up much?

1. I never had mults talking to myself.

2. I never threatened a lawsuit against the planet

3. I don't give a damn about face. If I did, I wouldn't be here.

With all these myths BlackBob might as well be Paul ****ing Bunyan

You guys are sad. Don't accuse me of shitting on this thread. You guys are the ones pooping all over it.

Saw that. It was rather strange.

Come on. You've been lying since you came back.

Funny.

Black bob had a Justin Houston sig pic as well... :hmmm:

with a Georgia Bulldog ensignia too

More importantly, he had a sig pic of teh GA bulldogs from Bonekrusher....

Hey hey hey hey..... what is going on here?

My gut tells me he isn't getting fired.

Of course, my gut also told me Haley wasn't getting fired.

Trade cAssHole and Polly for a Snickers Wrapper.

Wow. He's really awesome at not letting the cat out of the bag.ROFL

He'e like Hulk Hogan as "Mr. American"

you're a ****ing pussy who played 'internet lawyer'...but you also like being shit on, so you came crawling back

This is totally unacceptable we're going to have no weapons next year oh god! :clap:

None of this is proven or has been reported by any other outlet. Next.

this tragic

we let carr go so we can franchise tag Bowe. But we'll lose both.

Has anyone pointed out that the words "potentially negotiating" and "stud" indicate the writer is FOS?

your english tragic.

It's actually been denied by Jason Cole, the alleged "reporter" of the information. But I guess it's nice to add a little chaos on the pile.

hAY guyz miami has 2 second rounders wat do you think??????????

Actually, Peter King mentioned this week as a possibility among other trades losing teams might make.

Either he's floating a trial balloon or there is "some" substance.