I don't take football that seriously, and yes I'll take it compared to the last 10 years of Chiefs football I've seen

LOL You're awfully clueless for someone who trolls as much as you do.

Im not trolling....

I seriously think that the press is wrong on the 'charts' that are coming out now.

Ive seen 1-2 that have the chiefs in the top 33% of teams.

I call shannanigans, thats all.

I Think the Raiders have as good of a chance as the chiefs to win anything this season...

Im not saying its gonna be a 2 win season or anything....Just more of same ....and I dont think Maclin jumps right into KC and then suddenly our passing game is great...

Its gonna be rough....and basically if ANYTHING happnes to JC...season is done.

I mean I guess I will take it over 2 and 4 win seasons...

Okay.

You got me there.

Or Maclin...or Houston...

1000 yards.

Matt Cassel.

Bowe's about to go Full Brokeaki on KC. Much weeping, gnashing of teeth, and butt-hurt incoming.

The chiefs aggressively attacked weakness. Grubbs, Branch, Maclin, bringing back Parker. It's been a good off-season.

It would be cool if maclin made some kind of huge impact but honestly I do not see maclin as being THAT much better than DBowe.

If we kept dbowe and had maclin too...OK then..

And if we could give ALice a little more time in the pocket for longer drops....hell yah

but

20 million in dead cap space....I think personally i wouldve kept dbowe and I think we would have had more options and less dead money

Apple's and oranges. Cassell didn't care. Maclin fits what this offense is about. It's ridiculous that we keep doing this.

Of course, Chiefs fans will contribute it to "being motivated after being cut from the Glorious KC Chiefs", or some such utter nonsense.

I know!

Draft Daddy a 1st round QB for ****'s sake already!

"if our best player gets hurt we will most likely not win games" Geeeee no shit , great analysis

No. He's with a qb who doesn't care. Mccown cares not at all about turnovers so he will give Bowe the opportunity for jump balls. The browns don't have jc either.

Maclin is a lateral move

Grubbs and the line as a whole, is still a big question mark...I still HATE the fact we got rid of albert and again used a LATERAL move to waste a 1st round pick on a OL..I still dont think this line is as good as if we wouldve just kept albert and went a different direction....other than fisher.

We are still reeling from losing flowers, & carr beofre that, and now berry too...I mean tyvon branch 1 year deal when we LOST 3 franchise players over like 4 years?

I dunno...

I wouldnt be too surpised if the wheels fall off this thing this season

There isn't one worth taking this year.

That's just where we disagree. Maclin is such an upgrade.

They aren't done with the oline. Branch is depth. Parker is the starter.

How is he THAT much of an upgrade?

Explain this to me....I mean Dbowe had 15 TD's in a season

edit: I mean even if he is a little of an upgrade ....is that worth 10 million of dead money?

umm ... no

If he stays healthy, Maclin is a big upgrade in terms of fit,consistency and explosion.

It's about trust.

Bowe was unreliable as a route runner, and had critical drops.

Maclin is a precise route runner, and has sure hands.

Smith wil trust Maclin to be where he is supposed to be, and that he will make the catch.

Alex Smith will never have given Bowe the opportunities to make the kind of plays that he excels at making.

This is huge deal.

Anything the team can do to make Smith feel 'brave' is a good thing.

Yeah, KC's pass defense has really been reeling without Carr, Flowers, and Berry. :doh!:

Do you actually watch the games or just read the articles the next day in The Claythan Times?

even if I agreed with all of this, i dont see how its worth 10 million in dead money do make this move to slightly upgrade the WR1 spot

Yah losing berry, flowers and carr was nothing youre right

we can continually lose great players, year after year, and rely on the parkers of the world to bail us out every year

It's probably not, but that mistake was made in giving Bowe that big ass contract 2 years ago, not switching to Maclin. Sticking with Bowe just because you screwed up and gave him a big contract would just be compounding the problem.

I can see that logic...But I guess I was thinking we already have the 10 million in dead money so I mean unless its a YOUNG receiver (macalin isnt young) then I would probably just ride it to clear the dead money...

I dunno..I am all for improvements, just hate the 10 million in dead $$$

So you think KC's pass defense was reeling from those losses last season or are you going to admit that was a stupid statement?

Maclin is 26 years old. Are you ever right about anything?

The way I see it:

A good team being wasted on a shitty QB.

Ground hog Chiefs gonna' ground hog.

I stated it stupidly, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make...

Parker stepped up ... but we WERE reeling from the loss of Berry, weren't we?

ANd before that, losing B flow hurt.

and before that Carr hurt too.

Youre reading too much into what I wrote....I am just saying I dont think we can rely on one year deals with guys like Branch and Parker if we want to have a great secondary...

I thought he was drafted in 07

He was drafted in 09, my bad....but he has already missed an entire season with injury and is playing on a reconstructed ACL
he has already played longer than average .....and statistically is well over the halfway mark of his career

i hear ya.

We shouldn't have restructured Flowers deal and then cut him either.

If Dorsey wouldn't have screwed up last year and gotten a WR in the draft then we wouldn't have had to go into FA like this. Best WR draft in the history of the league and he takes a pass. :banghead:

Q hog RoR gonna Q hog

Lee was the only one left.

LMAO

Silly goose.

Not one of those moves is an issue at this point.

we are talking about Dead Money, so they really are.

http://105.imagebam.com/download/g9Q...01823436/8.JPG

Um, so is Jamaal Charles.

Won't that dead money be gone next year?

He had 15 tds, five years ago. Maclin is younger, faster, a better route runner, experienced in this offense. Regardless of the dead money, Maclin in every way is an upgrade. I understand as a fan of Bowe you feel compelled to defend him. I understand that.

yes.

I believe the Chiefs decided to take the entire cap hit for Bowe this year instead of dividing it up like they did with Flowers.

Over-the-cap doesn't show any dead money yet for next year.

I love Bowe, but I'm very excited for Maclin.

I really don't understand why everyone isn't excited for him this season.

Because of Alex.

Pawnmower hanging out with his shitloafer 'buds'

http://mcsmith.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834...7418080970b-pi

Careful yer hat, Daddy!!

Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed
 

We gonna do this again?

You are the king of the Bowe-mos. I get that, and understand it. But look at the type of players that Maclin and Bowe are. If you can't see why Maclin is better for Alex Smith, then I can not help you. This has nothing to do with Alex Smith. This has to do with maclins ability to get Alex Smith open. Something Bowe couldn't do.

Maclin fits the offensive scheme better than Bowe. And he has something that Bowe lacks...SPEED. When Smith drops back, the line breaks down, and nobody has enough speed to get open, it's check down, throw into a very narrow window, scramble and hope to get a few yards, or take the sack.

This offense obviously needs better protection up front (Grubbs signing helps but not fixes the problem). We still been a WR2 so Wilson can run slants across the middle. And we also need another legit TE threat to help the running game and compliment Kelce.

IMO... The defense has enough starter talent, just needs a few plug-n-play guys for different packages and give the #1's a breather.

Look at the GIFs I posted in the other thread. Alex doesn't attempt those throws.

And 25% of Maclin's production was on throws over 20 yards. Alex doesn't attempt those.

Maclin does some things better than Bowe did, but Bowe did some things better than Maclin did.

I don't see a huge upgrade here.

Niether do I. He's barely an upgrade over Bowe. Bowe never had injury issues, Maclin scares me.

We will see.

Dorsey let New Orleans jump ahead of us and grab Cooks @20

Kelvin Benjamin - @#28, 73 rec/1008 yrds
Marqise Lee(as you said) - 2nd round, 37 rec/500yrd for the stinky jags
Davante Adams - 2nd round, 38 rec/460yrds
Jarvis Landry - end of 2nd, 84 rec, 758 yrds
Donte Moncrief - end of 3rd, 32 rec, 444 yrs

Jordan Matthews as well.

yea, i didn't search every name.

just went with the ones i remembered and looked up stats


man, i was so pissed when we kept passing on Moncrief :(

I, and Dorsey, stand corrected.

Benjamin would not succeed with Alex.

Has a WR ever succeeded with Alex Smith?

Why?
Some dude at Utah.

Ask Sacc.

Why? Benjamin feasts on jump balls. The type of pass that Smith doesn't attempt but Newton does.

Makes sense.

This is all Chiefs and O's fan's fault.

I suspect he has da' beetus.

[QUOTE=Chiefaholic;11419101]Maclin fits the offensive scheme better than Bowe. And he has something that Bowe lacks...SPEED. When Smith drops back, the line breaks down, and nobody has enough speed to get open, it's check down, throw into a very narrow window, scramble and hope to get a few yards, or take the sack.

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My goodness...the 2015 Draft could address all our needs.

You have no idea...

[quote=Saccopoo;11419551].

[QUOTE=Sweet Daddy Williams;11419572]There's a good football decision

[quote=milkman;11419575]My Decision Lens software has expired, I had to take a different approach.

His pre snap thoughts... Go through the progression... Find the open receiver, take the high percentage play, move the chains, keep opposing offenses of the field, control the clock, play team football. West coast offense.

His post snap thoughts... "Hike!" option1 covered, juke to the right away from pressure coming straight up the middle, dodge pressure also coming from right... Flush toward sidelines to buy time... Everyone still covered like a blanket. Survive...

How have you guys not died yet from the bleeding of your vaginas?

Chiefs fans are all vampires. The franchise and everything associated with it was bitten long ago by the Clarks of Huntsylvania.

Every Sunday during the fall they gather for a new feeding.

Behold! Count Huntula III!

http://i.imgur.com/Wn3HRHa.jpg

ROFL

Well now I get it; he thinks too damned much instead of actually playing football.

Duh. I told you guys that when I first got here. The damn guy is too smart for his own good. He out thinks himself.

I don't think Alex Smith is nearly as smart the QB that he gets credit for being.

I don't see Alex Smith spotting the hot reads, making adjustments at the line.

Post-snap, whereas Aaron Rodgers and company are constantly thinking of "what is the right throw" (e.g. do I throw back shoulder? Do I throw a fade?) Alex Smith's post snap thought process is: "is this guy wide open so I can deliver a pass into the guy's numbers? He's not? Then, my next read is to look for the dump off option."

That's our big problem with Alex Smith. When your second read is a checkdown, that's NOT going through your progressions.

I agree 100%

I really didn't give his "smarts" a second thought until I was sitting in Lucas Oil Stadium watching him snap the ball with 10+ seconds on the play clock the entire second half when we're desperately trying to run down the clock.

Yah. I don't think he is post snap smart, and when I refer to his smarts, I'm talking non football smarts.

Heres where I'm at with Smith...

1) by now its painfully obvious that he isnt a "put the team on your back" guy 90% of the time and I dont think he inspires those kind of feelings in his teammates either, and its a big intangible to lack.

And yes, he is cautious to a fault and his arm is better than he wants to show most of the time.

But...

2) he was the second primary ingredient behind taking a team that had not only just had its worst statistical season, it was also at its absolute rock bottom in terms of culture and morale, the entire organization was spiritually bankrupt... and he led them not just to 9-0, but also led them to a playoff game.

Seriously, to go from 2012 to THAT is nothing to laugh at, it was an incredible turnaround quite frankly and no talk of "well weak teams and weak QB's lol" can dispel that truth.

Now, Reid was the main ingredient in that instantaneous culture change... but as QB, Smith deserves his share of credit just by virtue of the position he plays.

So to sum up, yes... he has warts and he has weaknesses and he's quite often hair yankingly maddening in his ways, and I too look forward to, cant wait, for our future under a ballsier, cockier field general that swashbuckles around and slings 40 yard touchdowns for breakfast.

But for Smith to come in and provide the kind of instant credibility and leadership to the team, digging it out of the ashes to a playoff appearance, consecutive winning seasons and narrowly missing another playoff shot against a brutal schedule that saw him win against the top two teams that year... is nothing to hate on.

Reid could have done SOOO much worse than this guy.

Last year made me hate his guts in many ways, I'll never forget the receiver touchdowns issue... but its also hard to forget the good things he has accomplished.

Smith is going to be the bridge between a really good team and a great team, is that really so bad?

He didn't lead anyone to shit. He played his WORST football during that 9-0 stretch. The Chiefs won games in which he threw for 173, 128 and 124 yards. LMAO

You should just forget about Smith. He's not a bridge to anything, except his own failure. He's intended to be "the guy" and he's just "a guy."

He was also...

1) brand new to the team
2) brand new to the system

Everyone from Dorsey on down was just trying to figure out who and what they were early on that first year, everyone was learning everything on the fly... its not a reach AT ALL to assume they went extra conservative on purpose.

I'm not even sure why I dont have you on ignore these days, you dont bring a LICK of nuanced thought to any Chiefs related subject.

Its pitiful.

:D

and when Russell Wilson did pretty much the same thing he was considered a stud