Of the 28 players we have released outright in the last 48 hours, have any of them landed on another squad?

You're a joke. Keep putting words in my mouth.

Toub is a special teams coach. He probably has little influence on roster decisions for his gunners and wedge guys. Of course he's going to be disappointed when the guy he picks to be his top 2 guys get cut. And of course he's used to it and won't pout and will find a way to make do.

I suppose when you exaggerate my comments, of course it's going to look bad.

Powe will...

They will keep Toriibio he was with the Packers before he got cut.

Why are people saying Powe got cut?

I don't see him on the list above and really nowhere else...

I prefer Powe over Toribio too. I don't know how Toribio stuck around this long.

He's been solid but he's not a NT...

Because he did?

Powe got cut. Its linked in multiple posts in this thread
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This what I can find on Powe

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6430/jerrell-powe

Yep. Just hard to find relevant info buried in SNR and Dane's slap fight and the hand wringing over Jalil ****ing Brown.

Source was Adam caplan

Powe will sign with Denver.

Source: Rausch...

I agree, and that makes sense. One thing I didn't like about Powe is he's a 2-down 0-technique, and those guys are becoming less valuable. I did see Toribio play a little across the line.

So at this point, nobody has been signed by another team yet?

Jerrell Powe got cut but not

Dontari Poe you dumb asses

@adamteicher: Interesting note from the weekend cuts. 45 players claimed off waivers around NFL, but none of those cut by #Chiefs.

Didn't see anyone say Poe...they said POWE

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/transactions.html

09/01/2013 Jerrell Powe (DT) Waived/Released

No team needs special teams aces?
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That's a good thing. It means Dorsey took out the trash :thumb:

FYP

This perfectly illustrates my point.

What do you expect? Okay, so both Dunta Robinson and Jalil Brown aren't good enough to be 3rd and 4th corners on our team. Got it.

Let's go get Richard Sherman. He'd be a ****ing dynamite Nickle.

And then we'll get Revis to play in the Dime.

These guys are depth corners. You folks need to Look at the depth corners throughout this league and re-calibrate your definition of 'trash'. Brown isn't great, no, but he's the 4th damn corner. He's going to be better than Parker. He's pretty much the exact same 4th corner that everyone else has. I see absolutely no reason to believe that Parker's going to be better than him.

"Rawr! He sucks! Cut him!" Whatever - that's pretty much the level of player you're looking at when you're talking about anyone from about 45 down on NFL rosters. And Robinson, while not a great CB, is better than most teams are running out there as a NCB.

:thumb:

I asked a similar question the other day, but got no response, when some were stating we were going to lose games because of brown an Robinson

Totally agree with all of it, especially the Dunta Robinson part. He WILL cost KC big time. The guy is pure TOAST. He can't play CB anymore. When KC first signed him I thought it was for Safety depth NOT CB. This guy hasn't been the same since his knee injury years ago. I hold my breadth when I see him on the field -

You got no response because I think there are people wondering why we decided to trade away our younger, cheaper corner in Arenas who was probably better for an older, more expensive, probably not as good corner in Dunta Robinson.

If Robinson was groomed to play FS, I can understand. I'll give Dorsey some time, but his roster decisions at depth CB are extremely questionable so far. I don't know why people are so convinced that Parker and Cooper are going to be any better than Brown, given how ridiculously wrong we were in trying to replace Arenas with Cox and Agnew.

Makes you wonder what it was that turned them off on Arenas. Had to be something there that we don't know about

Has arenas been good in Arizona? I have no clue.

But like DJ said, looming around the league, our 3 and 4 CBS are about what you expect

I agree that Pioli guys need to be put on notice. I just hope that we're not going overboard. Wouldn't concern me as much if we didn't go down this same road a few years ago to disastrous results. It's not just guys like Baldwin, it's contributors like Winston, Arenas, Albert... allegedly *rumor* McCluster and Hudson as well.

This team seems slightly obsessed with Seahawks, 49ers, Packers, and Eagles players. I just hope that we're picking up guys because they're actually better, and not because of "philosophical" differences that can be ironed out over time.

Winston contributed by spouting off at the mouth, Arenas didn't contribute to shit, Hudson was hurt and hasn't played much until this year, DMC sucks he hasn't done anything since that '10 week 1 PR TD.

And all those teams are elite except eagles.

I think that's a good thing. Scavenging from winning teams (less Eggles) is not a bad way to go for a team that went 2-14 and had clearly given up. They had to take out the trash, but there was only so much they could do from a free agency/draft perspective to help rebuild the roster fast, so they took advantage of having first shot at guys who were cut. As of right now, I like what they're doing

Good deal - another name we can add to the list.

Javier Arenas - also not worth a NCB role for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Remember folks - everyone else in the league has 53 starting caliber players on their roster. It's only the Chiefs that have guys like Arenas "Not contributing shit" for 600 snaps/season. You're a starter or you're crap.

Idiot.

I agree which is why I don't have any issue with them cutting Brown. They found a 4th corner who fits their system slightly better than Brown. I have no problem with that.

And yeah BossChiefs issue with Robinson makes no sense. Hes better than the nickel corner on atleast 20 teams. And starting corners for the most part don't lose games for a team. How the hell could a nickel corner lose us any?
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I would rather have Arenas than Robinson as my primary NCB.

Doesn't get injured. Young. More aggressive. Less fail.

He's got his problems, certainly, and speed guys will practically jog past him if he doesn't get a good push at the line, but it's better than Robinson and his tendency to whiff tackles and make airheaded plays.

Arenas, even as a younger player, is far smarter.

Robinson is a far more aggressive player than Arenas. I'm not a fan of either but Dunta is a physical guy.

Regardless of who you think is better, it's still head scratching to get rid of Arenas with our CB depth as horrible as it is right now. If any of our top 3 CBs get hurt, Cooper or Parker are next in line. Arenas runs circles around those guys.

And he attacks the ball.

I'm not sure where you're getting this, SNR.

Robinson is nothing if not physical. When he's getting beat, it's precisely because of the fact that he's aggressive as hell, both physically and in his approach.

I might agree that I'd prefer Arenas, but only because Arenas' floor is a little higher. We know exactly what we'll get in Arenas and it's a pretty average NCB. Robinson might be an outstanding NCB...but he might also be really bad (oftentimes in the same game). In that position, I think I'd rather have the guy that I know won't take much off the table and is going to give me a steady performance.

Yeah, I'm not going to light any candles for Brown.

I think he has more ability than most. I also think I saw a guy that improved with opportunity last year. He was significantly better in the pre-season than many are wanting to give him credit for and had gotten all the way to average out there.

But in the end, I have no problem with them letting him go for Cooper as I think they're probably similarly talented players.

But Parker....c'mon folks, we've been burned by this approach before. "Well I had that guy where I used to be, so he must be better than what I have now".

It's silly to just ignore that this got us into a wee bit of trouble not too terribly long ago. And when I would point it out, folks that are now blasting Pioli at every turn would say "Super Bowl - shutup".

I love this staff, I think they'll do great things here. But cutting Brown to make room for Parker, in a vacuum, makes little sense to me. Will it likely make a different? Nah, I doubt it. But it still makes me take pause.

Half the people on here just make shit up and then act like they've broken down film on every player in the NFL.

In the end Brown was worth squat. At least when Parker was cut other teams actually picked him up.
Brown's career is probably over.

I wouldn't count him among them, though.

I'm legitimately curious why he believes Arenas is a more aggressive player. I'm open to persuasion here, but I don't buy it. Maybe the missed tackles? Those were technique problems, not approach. Robinson looks like a guy that goes for the kill shot rather than breaking down.

Robinson's a very aggressive ballplayer. It's kinda what he does.

I meant in the press. Robinson takes far more risks, absolutely. And when he was a younger player, he was actually hitting on quite a high percentage of those risks, making him a pretty damn good corner in this league.

I just really don't want to see what I saw in the preseason- nicks and bruises here and there that put his name up on the injury report nearly every goddamn week. Out one week, back the next not 100%, out 2 more weeks, healthy for 3 games, gets injured again.

I agree. I really don't mind Cooper or cutting Wylie for Hall (though, I hope that wasn't a "tree" move). I don't get the Parker pickup and given that almost all our waiver wire pickups were Seahawks (Packers tree GM), Packers, or Eagles... absolutely fair to ask if we're repeating similar mistakes that got us in trouble in the past

Go **** yourself. Not once did I say, "Watch the tape" or whatever other cliche that those morons use to justify their takes.

I was actually just poking at SNR. I don't count him among them.
He's actually a good poster. :fire:

I'm fine with it for now. The only reason we got a lot of these players is because we were first in line on the waiver claim list. We acquired a lot of guys that other teams really wanted.

That's far different from picking up Patriot garbage like Ryan O'Callaghan that nobody wanted at all.

Oh.

Umm... thanks.

I was just messin wit cha.

We don't always agree, but that has nothing to do with the quality of your posts.

Ya, I think the general consensus is with playing man press and blitzing way more is the way to ease his declining play. But, let's face it, in the NFL today dbs are playing with one hand tied behind their back. The elite guys on the island are still there, but that pool of creme of the crop guys is dwindled as the bar has raised due to rule changes. To make a baseball comparison, it would be like talking about 3, 4, and 5 tool guys. Things like speed, stop start acceleration, lateral agility, physicality / ability to jam, size or at least ability to cover your tall / freak wrs, and the whole mental aspect. That would include read reaction, playing the angles, and craftiness- the little cheats and tricks without drawing the flag.

It reminds me of old guys like Mark Collins, who had veteran savvy to sniff out plays and put himself in position, but in today's game would suffer due to with age comes losing a step. Take a guy like Woodson, coming into the league with all the elite tools physically, and got up and down results when he 1st came in. Luckily, his athleticism held up as learned to apply the mental side and experience as a vet later on and was a better player 5 years in even though he was a physical specimen as a rookie and those early years. Point being, it's a short list of guys that get mental side and are quick to pick "it" up in how to play the position before the physical talent starts to see a diminishing curve trending down.

Just want to know if anyone has heard about him getting picked up?

Don't worry guy. I think you're a piece of shit. :)

As it's turned out, it looks like you're right. But coming out of college, Berry was supposed to be excellent in coverage for a safety.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 19s
Kevin Brock, Jalil Brown, Devon Wylie, Jerrell Powe & Bradley McDougald all cleared waivers. #Chiefs

I still have a slim hope for Jalil, the guy has all the physical tools to be good but he is just not getting it mentally.

He like Benny Sapp.

Shocking no picked up our special team "aces"...

LMAO

Diles?

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher 20m
For those wondering, none of players waived by #Chiefs yesterday were claimed. Thought some team would take a chance on Wylie

:thumb: Thanks!

Wylie's like the WR version of Moeaki. Always dinged up.

How many CP'rs wanted to take Powe in the 2nd or 3rd round a couple years ago?

According to Adam Teicher, Mike Catapano will be playing at DE. That's pretty interesting. I thought he'd project to be an OLB. I think I like this as a project. If Bailey can play more consistent against the run and Catapano can learn the position, we could have a decent rotation of D-linemen and push Jackson out.

That's definitely the goal, I think. To not waste free agent money next year signing Jackson to a new deal

So I would imagine a lot of these guy including Powe and our ST aces will go to the PS.

How did Hemingway not get drafted higher? I liked him at Michigan, I thought he was a playmaker. I know he didn't have the best combine but look at the highlights. I'm glad he's on the team. Great looker room guy too.

Uncle Junya!!

He's not fast. And he's built like an H-Back versus a wide receiver. That's going to drop you come draft day.

I thought that he'd be a solid player for the Chiefs if he could shake those minor injuries and especially so once Reid was hired. Hemingway always ran solid routes with nice hands.

Any word on whos been added to the PS?

There a thread with the whole list
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It's in Detroit

Damn, I missed that.

Right over my head.

Dont get it.

I didn't say any of that crap. All I said was "I'm surprised anyone gives a shit that we cut Jalil."

The dude got toasted game after game and was cut accordingly. He has been in the league long enough to start showing promise and that never happened.

Anyone that thinks guys like that shouldn't be part of a roster churning have too much emotional attachment to those players. I try not to get emotionally attached to many players, that includes Jalil Brown...who I spoke up about predraft quite a bit that year and called us drafting him in the draft thread.

There is nothing wrong with bringing in other players to replace stagnant ones.

My issue with Robibson is that he sucks and is out of gas at this point of his career and that was also the case last year.

Go back and watch Dexter McCluster own him in the opener last year.

And you guys acting like 3rd and 4th corners are insignificant are funny.

Nickel corners play the majority of the snaps in today's NFL.

You know what? The coaching staff agrees with me because they have taken Dante from the starting corner role...to taking him off the nickel role (for Hussain that hasn't played in over a year and is a safety) because the guy struggles covering receivers at this point in his career.

DJ, you went to camp...you couldn't have missed everyone running right by the guy.

I still dont see it. I thought a lot of those guy on the 7 new players list went straight to thee 53 man roster.
Am I wrong?
Could have sworn a saw a report saying cooper and others were added to the roster when they were picked up.

they were judged against the worst, and found wanting...


(they really ****ing suck)