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196.5 YPG 7.07 YPA completion % 61.3% 17 TDs in 16 games Rating 90.7 2012 203.6 YPG (8.5 games started. Suffered concussion mid 2nd quarter of Rams game) 7.97 YPA Completion % 70.2% 13 TDs in 8.5 games Rating 104.1 |
And on cue, here come the Niner trolls, out of the walls like cockroaches.
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What does YPG as a passer mean when you have one of the better rushing teams in the NFL with the best D in the NFL? INT% You're right...he did have more picks...almost twice as many. Yet his YPA comp% and QBR and QBR all skyrocketed. You're reaching or trolling...not sure which. |
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Boo ****ing hooooooo. |
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If you want to claim that his 2012 performance is "good", by all means, do so. You're just showing your bias. It's average at best, and anyone who watches professional football realizes that. It looks better than it actually is because he was so ****ing shitty his first 5 years. To look at those numbers and state he's absolutely going to get better, just because Urban Meyer says so? Mind-numbingly stupid. |
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Week 17, Harbaugh had pity on Smith and let him play one snap which he completed a 7 yd pass. So although it says he played 10 games, he technically only played 8.5, which changes most of his stats. |
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So yeah, forgive me for deeming unimportant the opinion of a few folks who scattered here over the year to pimp their favorite player. |
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You are one of the guys who have said take shots and live with a few more INT's. His TD% went from 3.8% to 6%. Fact is he was playing better in 2012 than in 2011. Its really indisputable. |
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Alex wasn't taking more shots in 2012, though. His YPC was still low and he wasn't throwing the ball down the field.
He was throwing more TDs, though, so that's an improvement. |
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That would change his stats as well. Parker was right - it makes no difference what someone says about your Golden Boy - it's never good enough, or there's always some excuse. I've spent the last two days saying that I'd be OK with extending him around 5/75 as long as it was front loaded and didn't hurt our chances financially to fill holes. But poke holes in a ridiculous Urban Meyer quote, and holy shit - the Batsignal is illuminated and y'all come running to defend your boy. It's comical, yet sad. |
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I was one of the first to CRUSH him when he played poorly. Like I said. So you can keep moving your goal posts, you used stats. You were shot down easily, and quickly, all of a sudden those who have watched him for years, are trolls. That's your defense. What the Trolls have been telling you, is that he has been getting better each season. You didn't want to accept it. This isn't that big of a deal in all honesty. Its just cute. The goal post moves like the wind where you guys are concerned. |
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Shrugs. Im not sure that saying because his yardage was lower, he played worse. There were other factors. |
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But is "better" good enough? If you knew he was going "improve" at that rate next year, (fewer YPG, YPC and more INT's) would you give him the $18M a season it's reported he could get? |
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You and your buddies have been trolling from the moment you were ran off your Niner boards and signed up here. Apparently you forgot about the "reception" you earned here due to the way you presented yourself. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275294 That doesn't happen unless you stroll in here like you own the ****ing place. |
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If he does that, his contract will be considered the steal of the decade. I don't anticipate that happening. |
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14-18 for 90 yards, 2 TD's, 0 INT's 124.5 rating. Lost the game by 20 points. Great day, eh? |
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Ok, you want to get rid of alex? Lets look at some things... What teams are wanting to find a franchise QB in the NFL? Ill be generous on my selections.. Minnesota Cleveland Houston Jacksonville Tennesse Tampa bay Oakland St. louis Rams The above teams are teams that have made it clear they want a QB.. This list doesnt even add in the teams where the QB's are perhaps on there way out or on a hott seat. Dallas Cincinatti Washington New York Jets Pittsburgh Steelers Thats 13 teams in the NFL that are either looking for a QB or there QB is being scrutinized and on the hot seat much like where u are trying to put alex. So lets throw alex away and let one of these teams pick him up.. Now we are in the hunt with all of these other teams in search of a franchise QB, And you want to do this after Alex and company just led us to a 11-6 season after finishing LAST PLACE in the league last year and a playoff appearance... Not to mention alex shined more than any QB in the playoffs last week?? Not many teams have ever accomplished what we did this year in history, and its seeming to me that you do not know that, or just decide to ignore it. Or try to Say alex cant get it done in the playoffs? Hes played in only 3 playoffs games, 1-2 record 900 yards 9 TD's 0 Int's.. The dude is clutch.. The reason he didnt put up big #'s in SF is obvious... look at the "STATS" you talk so much about, he was in the bottom 5 of passes attempted.. How do u expect alex to throw for 5,000 yards like drew brees when hes throwing 200 less passes a season? (Drew brees threw over 630 passes in 11 or 12 forget which, and alex threw what was it... 440?? Get over yourself. mind numbingly stupid . ROFL |
Clutch.
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I'm not implying anything. I pointed out how ridiculous I think it is to give that Urban Meyer quote any weight, and your dumb ass turned that into not wanting your gloryhole partner - even though I've said on THREE occasions in THIS THREAD ALONE that's I'd give him 5/75 under certain circumstances. It's not my fault you either can't read, or choose not to - and can't distinguish between two completely different arguments. Try rubbing the three brain cells you have together before posting to avoid this happening again. |
So what grade does Axel get for saturday and the season?
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Rest of season? Hard to decide between a C+ and a B-. Can't ignore the first nine games where he played average at best, and was carried by a historic defensive and special teams performance. I'm gonna go with B-. He showed he's capable of being an A-/B+ type of QB, but he's got to do it more than once or twice a year. |
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After we went up 38-10 Drive one Play 1 Run Play 2 Run Play 3 Pass incomplete 3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 2 Play 1 Pass for 4 yards Play 2 Run no gain Play 3 Pass incomplete FG 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:32 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 3 Play 1 Pass to Bowe Play 2 Pass to Dvis Play 3 Alex Run First down Play 4 Pass incomplete PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass incomplete Play 7 Pass incomplete Punt 6 plays, 40 yards, 2:44 elapsed All the Plays the clock could move Alex used the whole play clock Drive 4 Play 1 Pass to Hemingway First Down Play 2 Run ( Davis hurt clock stopped) Play 3 Pass incomplete Play 4 Pass to Bowe First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass to Fasano Then KC used a Timeout Play 7 Pass to Jenkins First down Then KC used a Timeout Play 8 Pass to Dex Play 9 Pass to Sherman play 10 Pass to Dex some reason he went ob Play 11 FG 11 plays, 58 yards, 5:02 elapsed Alex used the whole play clock Drive 5 Was the Last drive I know you Alex haters make up facts but he used the whole 40 sec clock. So can we end that dumb shit? |
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All this bickering is pointless.
If Joe Flacco can win a Super Bowl, so can Alex. Just get comfortable because he's going to be here. |
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a.) I was AT the game. I saw it with my own eyes. b.) I'm re-watching the broadcast right now, and your "drives" are completely wrong - you're missing the Alex fumble, for starters. The first drive after 38-10 was a 5 play drive and ended with the Smith fumble. c.) Not ONCE in the 3rd quarter - after 38-17 - does the play clock pop up on the screen, which happens when it gets to 5. Not going to trust someone that can't cut/paste over my own eyes, the drive chart and the broadcast. |
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I support extending Alex, but we didn't win a game this year when the defense faltered.
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It's tough to grade that playoff game given the fact that he'd deserve an A+ for the first 32 minutes and somewhere around a C+ for the rest of the game, which, incidentally, would have been the most important.. |
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Drive one Play 1 Run Play 2 Run Play 3 Pass incomplete 3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 2 Play 1 sack play 2 Pass to Hemingway first down play 3 Pass to Davis first down Play 4 Run Play 5 fumble 5 plays, 32 yards, 2:47 elapsed. Alex used the whole play clock Drive 3 Play 1 Pass for 4 yards Play 2 Run no gain Play 3 Pass incomplete FG 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:32 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 4 Play 1 Pass to Bowe Play 2 Pass to Dvis Play 3 Alex Run First down Play 4 Pass incomplete PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass incomplete Play 7 Pass incomplete Punt 6 plays, 40 yards, 2:44 elapsed All the Plays the clock could move Alex used the whole play clock Drive 5 Play 1 Pass to Hemingway First Down Play 2 Run ( Davis hurt clock stopped) Play 3 Pass incomplete Play 4 Pass to Bowe First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass to Fasano Then KC used a Timeout Play 7 Pass to Jenkins First down Then KC used a Timeout Play 8 Pass to Dex Play 9 Pass to Sherman play 10 Pass to Dex some reason he went ob Play 11 FG 11 plays, 58 yards, 5:02 elapsed Alex used the whole play clock Drive 6 was the last one Facts don't lie do the math. Alex used the play clock but just keep making crap up as you go. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playby...04011&period=3 |
Facts don't lie?
Which one of those posts are factual? They don't match. Not like you can you tell how much of the play clock was used based on drive time alone. You have no idea how much time each play took to run, when the ball was set ready for play, etc. Who should I believe? The guy that can't get his "facts" straight by posting different information, or my own eyes, which were in the building the game was played in, with an assist from the TV broadcast? It's impossible to take you seriously, though you try so hard to sit at the big boy table. |
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sorry but I just took a shower and don't need the niner douches stink all over me. no wading through their bullshit for me tonight... |
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you have two ****ing drive charts on this page that are different. |
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Drive 1 Play 1 sack play 2 Pass to Hemingway first down play 3 Pass to Davis first down Play 4 Run Play 5 fumble Drive 2 Play 1 Run Play 2 Run Play 3 Pass incomplete 3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 3 Play 1 Pass for 4 yards Play 2 Run no gain Play 3 Pass incomplete FG 3 plays, 4 yards, 1:32 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 4 Play 1 Pass to Bowe Play 2 Pass to Dvis Play 3 Alex Run First down Play 4 Pass incomplete PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass incomplete Play 7 Pass incomplete Punt 6 plays, 40 yards, 2:44 elapsed All the Plays the clock could move Alex used the whole play clock Drive 5 Play 1 Pass to Hemingway First Down Play 2 Run ( Davis hurt clock stopped) Play 3 Pass incomplete Play 4 Pass to Bowe First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass to Fasano Then KC used a Timeout Play 7 Pass to Jenkins First down Then KC used a Timeout Play 8 Pass to Dex Play 9 Pass to Sherman play 10 Pass to Dex some reason he went ob Play 11 FG 11 plays, 58 yards, 5:02 elapsed Alex used the whole play clock Drive 6 was the last one This on is right i missed the fumble on first one. |
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Play 1 Run Play 2 Run Play 3 Pass incomplete 3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock How does this not prove it? Play 1 Run clock moves Play 2 Run clock moves Play 3 Incomplete clock stops Had the ball for 1:34 that drive. |
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Play 1 run Take the 40 sec down Play 2 Run Take the 40 sec down Play 3 incomplete Stops clock We had the ball for 1:34 not sure why this is hard for some people. |
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I don't believe Alex left over 4 minutes on the clock so why is this an issue anyway?
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Chiefs are cheap! I mean, wait, ****.
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2nd one is wrong too, genius. The first offensive drive after going up 38-10 was a 5 play drive that ended with the Smith fumble. Holy shit, this is hilarious. |
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After we went up 38-10
Drive 1 Play 1 sack play 2 Pass to Hemingway first down play 3 Pass to Davis first down Play 4 Run Play 5 fumble 5 plays, 32 yards, 2:47 elapsed Drive 2 Play 1 Run Play 2 Run Play 3 Pass incomplete 3 plays, 5 yards, 1:34 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 3 Play 1 Pass for 4 yards Play 2 Run no gain Play 3 Pass incomplete FG 3 plays, 4 yards, 1:32 elapsed. So play 1 and 2 Alex used the whole 40 sec play clock Drive 4 Play 1 Pass to Bowe Play 2 Pass to Dvis Play 3 Alex Run First down Play 4 Pass incomplete PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass incomplete Play 7 Pass incomplete Punt 6 plays, 40 yards, 2:44 elapsed All the Plays the clock could move Alex used the whole play clock Drive 5 Play 1 Pass to Hemingway First Down Play 2 Run ( Davis hurt clock stopped) Play 3 Pass incomplete Play 4 Pass to Bowe First down Play 5 Run Play 6 Pass to Fasano Then KC used a Timeout Play 7 Pass to Jenkins First down Then KC used a Timeout Play 8 Pass to Dex Play 9 Pass to Sherman play 10 Pass to Dex some reason he went ob Play 11 FG 11 plays, 58 yards, 5:02 elapsed Alex used the whole play clock Drive 6 was the last one OnTheWarpath58 facts don't lie. Alex used the clock. I'll wait till you come up with another excuse. |
Warpath you never answered my questions, I'm sure you just missed them.
So here they are again. First, If you could get that game from AS in every game for the next 5 years would you take it? Second, If got that game from your Defense every game for the next 5 years would it take it? Third, If you coaches managed games that way for the next 5 years would you take it? |
Is that your final answer? Sure you have it right this time?
(I'll give you a hint - you don't.) Regardless, and again... a.) I was in the building, and Monty and I mentioned it several times. So you're basically calling us both liars. b.) Not once in the 3rd quarter does the broadcast show the play clock, which happens when it hits 5 seconds. Or, everyone can believe the guy that can't get his information straight, is leaving plays out of drives which count against the time elapsed, and doesn't understand that time elapsed isn't the end-all-be-all because you don't know how long each play took, nor how long it took the ball to be placed as ready for play. I appreciate this little man crush you have where you follow me around and try desperately to disprove everything I post - but you're failing miserably. Stick to Twitter updates. |
NFL NETWORK just said CHIEFS ARE WANTING to EXTEND ALEX SMITH
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I'll take espn over you any day. |
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You look at the low production of the first nine games and simply say: "Alex was average for the first nine.." Who do you think would have done better given all of those things? Or are you one of those folks who just think the QB has to throw up big numbers regardless of the circumstances? I know that if someone gave me a key board with the letter "e" and "s" missing, replaced "photoshop" with "MS Paint", tied one hand behind my back, and changed the language on my computer to Spanish, my performance would look average at best as well, but if I was still able to get the job done, it would nothing short of an f'ing miracle. And, while Smith doesn't like the title, he really is a good game manager. When he knows the offense is going to have to elevate their game, he does that. Just as you saw in the later half of the season. I don't think the O just all of a sudden pulled their head out in week nine. They knew they were going to have to step it up and Smith started throwing the ball around more. Problem was, still way way way to many huge costly drops. |
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Where do these people come from?
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