You need to graduate college to increase your sports knowledge, brah. I should be higher in my knowledge but I probably didn't go to the right colleges. ROFL

Cool. Maybe little Bitch won't pimp his homers anymore in that case.

And in the first AB? What's the excuse there?

Uh, I already said I had no problem with any other other pitch the Royals threw in the game earlier.

Hamas has like 8 degrees man. I'll never know baseball like him. How he knows the Cardinals lost the division in July is fascinating baseball knowledge.

I love how much he's gotten under your skin. LMAO

Oh. Cool. Back to the first at bat!

He was trying to hit him. Clear as day. I never argued that. But the thing got out of hand when Donaldson turned into a drama queen because he threw a fit over Madson trying to "hit him." Complete horse crap.

He doesn't throw a fit, the benches don't empty, this is never on ESPN. You aren't on here trying to troll this thread. The end.

Beanball war LMAO

If there's no intentionally thrown pitch in the 1st inning by a Royal, the game proceeds like the other three did. Without conflict.

Yeah, 20 games over .500 with a huge divisional lead. Clearly, we won't make the playoffs

Fine but that's a low dig comment. I guess your superiority in life trumps everyone else here? Pretty ****ing lame if you ask me. Your sports takes are largely right and I enjoy them. It's your arrogant, superiority complex that shines through in your posts that's pretty heinous.

The Royals are definitely in that position, though I have no idea how that has anything to do with the accuracy of my prior post. In fact, that makes it more funny. LMAO

Who knows. Apparently pitching inside to Donaldson, changeup even, is not ok

So, he gets intentionally drilled in the first, gets buzzed in the third and hit in the seventh and you can't see why he'd be upset?

That's some pure homer bullshit. The Royals were instigators and it's clear as day to anyone who isn't a delusional ****ing dumbass.

There isn't one. People get hit intentionally more than we as fans know. Take your base and move on. He didn't and the rest escalated because of it.

Says the guy who didn't watch the game, at all

I even said when it happened in the first inning, "That was for Moose yesterday." You can scroll back through this thread and look it up.

They hit our 3B and took him out yesterday. I figured we were returning the favor. The end. Now maybe there was something there about stealing signs, I don't know. I just assumed it was for knocking Moose out of the game today. That should've been the end of it. But Donaldson had to have a hissy fit. And now you're all latching onto it like a bunch of drama queens.

But I don't have a problem with them hitting Donaldson for Moose, and I don't think Madson was trying to load the bases in a two run game. Donaldson got what he wanted, which was attention for acting like a brat. The end.

Didn't Shilling say something like he hit like 134 batters in his lifetime and only 3 were not intentional?

Not after getting drilled by a 100 MPH FB in the 1st for no good reason. Not sure if you're aware, but guys don't like that too much.

What am I wrong about, then?

So you think every time a player gets hit unintentionally (like with Hendriks/Moose in the knee), the other team deserves a beanball? Hilarious. LMAO

Watch the game, and then report back. There is a reason no Royals pitchers were ejected

Still not aware our 3b missed the game today because of a HBP game before? Intentional or unintentional, it happened.

I get why he was upset. But there's a difference between being upset and throwing a hissy fit at the plate and stopping the game, which he did. They knocked Moose out of the game today by hitting him last night. I personally think that's what led to it, but we can't be sure. Maybe they felt Donaldson showboated too much yesterday. Maybe they think the Jays were stealing signs. There are a few options.

Yes. It happens more than we know or admit.

Exactly. This ain't t-ball.

That's the way baseball works. Your team has done it too. There isn't a team in baseball that can claim innocence in that regard, and most honest pitchers would tell you as such.

So wait. Donaldson gets HBP in the first and that means every Royals pitcher only gets to throw him meatballs over the outside of the plate for the rest of the game?

In any scenario (signs/pimping/unintentional HBPs), we're still talking about the Royals hitting somebody for some contrived reason and therefore initiating the real conflict where there was none.

Beanball War

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Never Forget

Did not have a problem with Volquez or Madson's pitch to him later in the game and have said as much repeatedly now. It was the first intentional one that caused this.

That's not how it works. And you can certainly make the argument baseball shouldn't work that way... that's why some people hate it, it's so set in their ways and old school and all that.

But a lot of times if you hit someone and knock a player out of a game, one of your guys is going to wear one. That's how it's been played for a century.

They also could've felt he showboated yesterday, although I'm not sure he did. But there are so many things happening in the field we don't know about, it could be anything.

That isn't the way baseball works. It's the way Royals baseball works. If every team went around hitting people for unintentional HBPs, we'd be having brawls every other game.

Moose being out isn't a conflict? Tell that to the royals players dumbass.

Well as long as you'll admit that Donaldson's tantrum and walk outside the batter's box after Madson buzzed him was just a mixture of roid rage and I-can't-believe-I-let-that-ball-go-by-in-the-2014-wild-card-game butthurtedness, then I'd say we've reached a détente.

Actually it is.....in America.

Aside from the Diamondbacks, please name one team that retaliates consistently after someone gets hit. Maybe the Pirates after McCutchen gets beaned?

:facepalm:

You should watch more baseball.

Moustakas being out is an injury, not a conflict.

Just quoting myself to show that I'm not full of crap. I said that right after it happened.

Brilliant semantics-parsing there. You should go into politics.

You don't think some of the players think your 3b should wear one when our 3b is out because of one? Jesus, do you watch this sport?

Huh? Players get hit all the time unintentionally without teams throwing beanballs in some kind of hilarious attempt at retribution. If it was actually the way you're talking about, why are beanballs like this a rarity and not a regularity?

I think that's a pretty hilarious rationalization for an intentional beanball, yes. Explains quite a bit why the Royals find themselves in these scenarios.

So you're saying an unintentional HBP the day before is a good reason to hit somebody intentionally and start a conflict like this? Seriously?

This happens all the time. I'm not sure how you don't get that. Many not as obvious beanballs as today but HBP nonetheless.

I think the more likely explanation is that Samardzija, Lawrie, and Donaldson still need therapy for their PTSD from last year.

They all do. You are surely not that naive. They may not do it right away, but it happens. Someone made a reference to Curt Schilling, who said most all of his HBP were on purpose for one reason or another.

There was a story about Ed Farmer after that dust up a few weeks ago, and granted Ed Farmer is nuts... but there was a story about how once he waited two years to nail a guy for something he did wrong.

Orchard jobs a'plenty, I see.

Had moose not been hurt than maybe nothing. Missing a game then yes, the chances of an opponent wearing one increase based on game circumstances.

Donaldson got emotional today (understandable considering he was thrown at and hit for no good reason and wanted his own retribution), but I do love how much he's gotten under the skin of you guys. ROFL

I guess the Astros owe the Royals an injured OF for 6-8 weeks

So you only hit guys intentionally unprovoked when your player has to sit out a game because of the previous unintentional HBP? Is that the rule we're making up to explain this away now?

I think it is clearly the other way around. The Royals are under his skin. It's probably not a coincidence that most of our problems are related to the A's.

Yea maybe it happens. Maybe it's not an obvious pitch but it happens. Many might see it as unintentional but only the players know the truth.

God damn you're ****ing dumb. I said it increases the chances of a team deciding to make the other team wear one. Probably up to the individual pitcher on retaliation.

Oh, I think it's pretty clearly both judging by the posts in this thread.

Nah, I'm just enjoying the rationalization it takes to excuse the Royals in this instance for their beanball.

I may be incorrect, but I don't think anyone in this thread was on the field today. Anyone?

Pointing out someone is being a big baby on the field is not "getting under anyone's skin."

Clearly both and it's fine that way.

Other than the Trout incident, that was just a heat of the moment **** you type deal, the others have all been involved with 2014 A's.

Samardzija
Oakland A's series
Donaldson

But you would think it would be a fight every series how some people think we are.

Don't be an idiot

I was making a reference to Royals fans, not the Royals themselves. This should have been obvious considering it was a response to a Royals fan.

There is no excuse. Actions by both sides in this game. I see nothing wrong with how it went and even said on the game thread a Royal would wear one and then Esky got plunked. The bench clear was related to Donaldson charging in from third as esky walked up the baseline.

As close as this team seems, I think it just their mentality when one gets hurt, maybe subconsciously.

I was going to look for a good example, and I found one with the mighty Cardinals no less.

http://redlegnation.com/2015/05/14/t...ack-alley-way/

Granted this is a Reds blog, but it's still a great example. Kluber hit Matt Holiday in the hand accidentally and knocked him out of the game on May 13th.

https://redlegnation.files.wordpress...iday.gif?w=700

A couple innings later, Jason Kipnis gets one straight in the back from John Lackey.

https://redlegnation.files.wordpress.../05/kipnis.gif

And they actually hit Kipnis a second time later in that game. All over an accidental HBP that knocked a player out of a game. Granted there's a bunch of Reds whining on that blog, but even some of the commenters say that's just baseball. You take someone out, one of your guys is going to wear one. You can certainly argue it shouldn't be that way, but that's how they play the game.

So get on that high horse Cards fan. Get on up there.

****ing Cardinals fans trolling because of behavior. **** off with that shit.

That has been the only I wasn't a fan of. Lawrie took the first HBP like a man. Donaldson knew he had been cold busted stealing signs and that was it.

Not consistently, no. The Diamondbacks consistently bean players after their own are incidentally beaned. This has been going on for a few years. They ****ing even beaned Braun for no reason last year to load the bases and then Lucroy hit a grand slam to win the game.

Volquez threw an 85 mph changeup at Donaldson's head because he knew a fastball would get him thrown out. Pretty crafty

You have been told numerous time from a fans perspective that they hit moose the day before in the knee removing him from todays game. That is a educated guess from fans so why you keep the for no reason bs in your posts and say still waiting on an answer. What has happened between the 2 benches and various players no one knows here so why keep harping on it. Ned hinted at it that your jays crowd the plate and kill ya if you dont pitch inside. Teams have been putting the body armor on and hanging over the inside of the plate on us and we have shied away of going in and after. I think the AL just got served notice we aren't afraid to brush you back and thats just good baseball.

ESPN & MLBN won't let us forget.

Volquez is smarter than I thought.

Clearly, KCConnection never played baseball past grade school.

LMAO

I agree. Lawrie took it like a man and that should've been that. I'm very objective about the Royals and baseball etiquette. I think it's hilarious people like Hamas, who didn't even watch the game, try and tell us how our team plays baseball. Today was all Donaldson being a ****ing cry baby. Plain and simple.

Sorry I wasn't here to save the day (again), golf was a better offer. :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

I see Donaldson's pussy still hurts from the playoff game last year.

**** the Jays.