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okcchief 09-25-2017 06:31 PM

Also Melo’s numbers as a spot up shooter are outstanding. These 3 guys want to win and I expect them to adapt to win. He’s been in one of the worst organizations for years. It gives you a much better chance than staying pat.


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okcchief 09-25-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 13105301)
If Adams keeps improving (keep in mind he's like 23 years old), this starting 5 for OKC will be incredible and fun to watch.



Adams will be more like he was 2 years ago with space.


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KC_Connection 09-26-2017 06:46 PM

I think the Warriors are still going to run over anybody so it really doesn't matter, but there's nothing wrong with putting three great players together and seeing if they figure it out. If they do, they might pose some kind of a challenge there. It's totally within Carmelo's ability to be a great #3 for OKC.

The corpse of Wade on the way to Cleveland now. Only surprise was that it hadn't happened before now. They're going to have a bit more depth than usual.

okcchief 09-26-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 13107707)
I think the Warriors are still going to run over anybody so it really doesn't matter, but there's nothing wrong with putting three great players together and seeing if they figure it out. If they do, they might pose some kind of a challenge there. It's totally within Carmelo's ability to be a great #3 for OKC.

The corpse of Wade on the way to Cleveland now. Only surprise was that it hadn't happened before now. They're going to have a bit more depth than usual.



Right on

The Warriors are still the best, but if the Thunder gel and are more hungry who knows. If the Warriors are healthy they won’t be beat, but I like people taking shots.


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New World Order 09-26-2017 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 13107707)
I think the Warriors are still going to run over anybody so it really doesn't matter, but there's nothing wrong with putting three great players together and seeing if they figure it out. If they do, they might pose some kind of a challenge there. It's totally within Carmelo's ability to be a great #3 for OKC.

The corpse of Wade on the way to Cleveland now. Only surprise was that it hadn't happened before now. They're going to have a bit more depth than usual.

LMAO

dirk digler 09-26-2017 08:28 PM

OKC needs hoodie Melo to show up. The West is going to be ****ing fist fight every night and I can't wait.

KC_Connection 09-26-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 13107818)
Right on

The Warriors are still the best, but if the Thunder gel and are more hungry who knows. If the Warriors are healthy they won’t be beat, but I like people taking shots.


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I've wanted to see what Carmelo could do as a #2 or #3 on a good team for a while now, so it will at least be interesting. His teams were quite good back when he played with actual good players in Billups/Hilario in Denver and Amare/Chandler/Kidd in New York.

Another thing is that I could see one or both of PG/Melo jumping ship to go to LA if LeBron goes there next summer. Might end up being a one year experiment with these three.

DJ's left nut 09-28-2017 10:12 AM

This isn't my favorite Lakers team, but it may be among the most I best remember (because it came the year after I started following the Lakers and it was just a madhouse of a team).

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/9...edric-ceballos

Ced, Eddie, Nick, Elden, Vlade....Magic? Yeah, some of you will remember his brief and shockingly good comeback.

Just a profoundly weird basketball team, especially to write an article about. But I know there's a handful of Lakers fans here that will get a kick out of the article.

All hell broke loose that off-season and frankly it should have. There were so many volatile personalities in that locker-room that it pretty much had to be blown apart. Fortunately Jerry West is a wizard so thinks worked out pretty well for the purple and gold.

Pitt Gorilla 09-28-2017 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13110059)
This isn't my favorite Lakers team, but it may be among the most I best remember (because it came the year after I started following the Lakers and it was just a madhouse of a team).

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/9...edric-ceballos

Ced, Eddie, Nick, Elden, Vlade....Magic? Yeah, some of you will remember his brief and shockingly good comeback.

Just a profoundly weird basketball team, especially to write an article about. But I know there's a handful of Lakers fans here that will get a kick out of the article.

All hell broke loose that off-season and frankly it should have. There were so many volatile personalities in that locker-room that it pretty much had to be blown apart. Fortunately Jerry West is a wizard so thinks worked out pretty well for the purple and gold.

I'm not in any way, shape, or form a Lakers fan, but I remember that team well; I used to live the NBA. Thanks for posting this.

Wasn't Mag a power forward when he returned?!? My brain is telling me he played on the block a bit like he did when he had to as a rookie.

DJ's left nut 09-28-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13110358)
I'm not in any way, shape, or form a Lakers fan, but I remember that team well; I used to live the NBA. Thanks for posting this.

Wasn't Mag a power forward when he returned?!? My brain is telling me he played on the block a bit like he did when he had to as a rookie.

Yeah. He came back...uh...thick.

He didn't have the lateral ability to defend guards and the Lakers has a couple of pretty good guards already in Jones and Nick the Quick. And Ceballos was their best player at the 3 so Magic just kinda settled into the 4. Fortunately it was just a tick before the stretch 4s really started to show up so you could get away with Magic's more limited mobility because he was still a pretty tall dude and could body up some of the more lumbering 4s in the league (who in many cases were just mediocre 5s).

Offensively he played point forward a lot. Van Exel still brought the ball up a fair amount but most of the offense went through Magic once he came back.

Pitt Gorilla 09-28-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13110366)
Yeah. He came back...uh...thick.

He didn't have the lateral ability to defend guards and the Lakers has a couple of pretty good guards already in Jones and Nick the Quick. And Ceballos was their best player at the 3 so Magic just kinda settled into the 4. Fortunately it was just a tick before the stretch 4s really started to show up so you could get away with Magic's more limited mobility because he was still a pretty tall dude and could body up some of the more lumbering 4s in the league (who in many cases were just mediocre 5s).

Offensively he played point forward a lot. Van Exel still brought the ball up a fair amount but most of the offense went through Magic once he came back.

I remember Nick being one of the better second rounders of that time. Thuggins' program at Cinci was producing all sorts of interesting talent.

BWillie 09-29-2017 01:35 PM

WOW

WESTBROOK JUST RESIGNED WITH OKC. 5 years.

AWESOME! I figured he was sure to walk after this year, searching for a championship somewhere else or go back to LA where he grew up. What a stud

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...205m-extension

Stinger 09-29-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13111915)
WOW

WESTBROOK JUST RESIGNED WITH OKC. 5 years.

AWESOME! I figured he was sure to walk after this year, searching for a championship somewhere else or go back to LA where he grew up. What a stud

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...205m-extension

Was just searching for this thread to post this.....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Russell Westbrook has agreed to a five-year, $205M contract extension with OKC, league sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/913844614767022080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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BWillie 09-29-2017 02:02 PM

This will really help give OKC stability and possibly attract some FA's. Hopefully Steven Adams can take that next step. I'm not as high on Steven Adams like alot of people. He gets so many easy baskets from the attention Westbrook gets, does not have elite athleticism, isn't a great shot blocker or even a great rebounder. Probably gets 7-8 ppg a game just strictly from Westbrooks dump offs and wide open alley oops that any schmuck could make. He is a very good positional post defender, though.

tk13 09-29-2017 02:27 PM

He did it on Durant's birthday too. I'm guessing that may not be a coincidence.

dirk digler 09-29-2017 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13111987)
He did it on Durant's birthday too. I'm guessing that may not be a coincidence.

Probably not

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The plan was to announce it Sunday before a public team scrimmage at a local high school, but Westbrook showed up at the practice facility on Friday and said it was the day to make it official.

DJ's left nut 09-29-2017 02:48 PM

Well that does nothing to encourage Paul George to go to LA.

I still can't figure out how Julius Randle to Indy for PG wasn't a better package than what they got. Best answer I can come up with was that it clearly was but Indy's GM was pissed and wasn't going to send George to LA via trade.

OldSchool 09-29-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13097848)
Russell Westbrook averaged 10.4 apg last season. He isn't a ball hog anymore.

It's going to be interesting to see how they mesh... I think they can make it work. Still not beating the Spurs or Warriors but they will be up there.

You're going to have high assists when you're pretty much the only guy who gets to control the ball.

PAChiefsGuy 09-29-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13112020)
You're going to have high assists when you're pretty much the only guy who gets to control the ball.

True but I don't think Westbrook is a ballhog. His supporting cast sucked last season anyway.

He's certainly not John Stockton or Jason Kidd but he can get others involved.

BWillie 09-29-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13112034)
True but I don't think Westbrook is a ballhog. His supporting cast sucked last season anyway.

He's certainly not John Stockton or Jason Kidd but he can get others involved.

Who is he supposed to pass it to? I wouldn't pass it to Kyle Singler either. I do wish he would stop taking so many ill advised shots, but his mid range game does make him less exploitable. It makes defenders keep him honest so he can either pull up from 3, drive and pull up, or go all the way to the basket. Part of his reckless nature gets him to draw TONNNS of fouls. If he could ever be a .390 3-point shooter he would be impossible to defend.

BWillie 09-29-2017 03:28 PM

Anybody think Bryce Alford could stick with OKC? Guy can shoot it.

okcchief 09-29-2017 11:29 PM

Westbrook is one of a kind. I hope it pays off.


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dirk digler 10-09-2017 04:36 PM

Wow. Big money for a guy always injured.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Philadelphia center Joel Embiid has agreed to a five-year, $148 million designated rookie scale max extension, league sources told ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/917502978533330944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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DJ's left nut 10-09-2017 04:39 PM

I wish I knew a little more about how the designated rookie max vs. the regular ol' max (and the supermax) worked.

Because I fail to see how guaranteeing Embiid $30 million/yr now is smarter than making him wait for a year to see if he can put up any kind of track record of reliability. Unless the max he'd have been eligible for after this season was potentially much larger, the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward.

PAChiefsGuy 10-09-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 13138698)
Wow. Big money for a guy always injured.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Philadelphia center Joel Embiid has agreed to a five-year, $148 million designated rookie scale max extension, league sources told ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/917502978533330944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Way too much... He only played a qrt of one season.

The 76ers are taking a big gamble with that signing.

-King- 10-09-2017 04:48 PM

If he misses more than 20 games this season I'd fire everyone in the FO including interns. This has the making to be the worst deal in NBA history.
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dirk digler 10-09-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13138701)
I wish I knew a little more about how the designated rookie max vs. the regular ol' max (and the supermax) worked.

Because I fail to see how guaranteeing Embiid $30 million/yr now is smarter than making him wait for a year to see if he can put up any kind of track record of reliability. Unless the max he'd have been eligible for after this season was potentially much larger, the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward.

Yeah I find the whole NBA CBA or whatever you want to call it extremely confusing for my small brain.

But according to ESPN he got the super max. But I agree with you I would have waited if possible.

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The designated exception -- termed "the super-max" -- allows Embiid to earn a higher percentage of the salary cap -- and potentially millions of dollars more -- if he meets criteria, including, making All-NBA teams or the NBA's Most Valuable Player. If Embiid meets the super-max criteria, he could earn an as much as $178 million on the contract, league sources said.

Based on the details of what sources are describing as a complex contract structure, the 76ers would have to waive Embiid for him not to reach the full value of his $148 million extension.

The deal represents the Sixers' commitment to Embiid's talent, given that he's been healthy enough to play in only 31 regular-season games since Philadelphia selected him with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2014 NBA draft.
Embiid, 23, has become among the NBA's most talented and popular young players, and the extension solidifies him as a cornerstone of the franchise's future.

The deal will include some salary-cap protection for the 76ers should Embiid suffer injury that causes him to miss significant playing time, league sources said.


-King- 10-09-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13138701)
I wish I knew a little more about how the designated rookie max vs. the regular ol' max (and the supermax) worked.

Because I fail to see how guaranteeing Embiid $30 million/yr now is smarter than making him wait for a year to see if he can put up any kind of track record of reliability. Unless the max he'd have been eligible for after this season was potentially much larger, the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward.

I think they were scared he'd leave in fee agency that's why they did it now
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DJ's left nut 10-09-2017 04:52 PM

Jesus tapdancing Christ.

There appears to be absolutely no upside to this deal.

dirk digler 10-09-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13138745)
I think they were scared he'd leave in fee agency that's why they did it now
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He would have been a restricted FA after this season so he wasn't going anywhere

-King- 10-09-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 13138778)
He would have been a restricted FA after this season so he wasn't going anywhere

Welp... That was the only excuse I had. This deal truly makes no sense.
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BWillie 10-09-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13138701)
I wish I knew a little more about how the designated rookie max vs. the regular ol' max (and the supermax) worked.

Because I fail to see how guaranteeing Embiid $30 million/yr now is smarter than making him wait for a year to see if he can put up any kind of track record of reliability. Unless the max he'd have been eligible for after this season was potentially much larger, the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward.

I saw Embiid, Wiggins and Tarik Black at the Oak Park Mall food court one time and I mentioned to my friend that there is 250M future earnings right there.

I was extremely wrong. Andrew Wiggins signed a 25M rookie contract, and is thought to be very near a 5-year 150M contract along with Embiid's 150M contract. The dudes are only 22 years old. Along with Black who has made 7.5M, these guys gonna make a billion dollars between them I bet.

dirk digler 10-09-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13138814)
Welp... That was the only excuse I had. This deal truly makes no sense.
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Yep don't quite understand it myself.

KC_Connection 10-09-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 13138698)
Wow. Big money for a guy always injured.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Philadelphia center Joel Embiid has agreed to a five-year, $148 million designated rookie scale max extension, league sources told ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/917502978533330944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Not sure why they did it now, but would rather spend that kind of money on him than a guy like Wiggins. At least he actually has a chance to be a superstar and has a massive impact when on the floor.

-King- 10-11-2017 05:10 AM

Sixers can pull out of the deal if embiid misses more than 25 games due to injury.
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Hammock Parties 10-17-2017 06:29 PM

well, bye

https://i.imgur.com/J5zTyvc.jpg

Sassy Squatch 10-17-2017 06:36 PM

Holy shit. Looks like his ankle just snapped off his leg.

RobBlake 10-17-2017 06:39 PM

What happens when you leave Mormon land

MahiMike 10-17-2017 06:40 PM

Oh joy, basketball is back.

BWillie 10-17-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13158690)

Long way from your heart.

No I'm not praying for him despite what all the Twitter & Facebook Gordon Hayward memorial posts are saying.

Sure I feel bad for him. But life will go on. All he has to do is think about dollar signs, 127 million, and he'll feel better.

Honestly, most of the time broken legs aren't even that bad. Sure it looks gruesome, and it is. But better of doing this than tearing your achilles or some significant back injury. Better than an ACL tear, even. Less long lasting effects.

Yeah, I'm a ****ing doctor. I saw like half of Season 3 of House.


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