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mnchiefsguy 03-19-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15593792)
Chiefs pushed all that money to the future for Williams and adding a WR and struck out. Thats not ideal.

Not sure that it matters. Leftover cap money this year will roll into next year, so if it is not spent, it will be there to spend in the future.

I trust in Veach. The team will be better next year than they were this year.

O.city 03-19-2021 11:43 AM

Ty ain't playing that X WR I doubt.

I'd check on Galladay I suppose, but his hip is a big meh

AdolfOliverBush 03-19-2021 11:43 AM

I'm surprised KC hasn't made a real push for Golladay. Expensive, yes, but would be an absolute game changer.

MahomesMagic 03-19-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15593804)
I don’t think Hilton can play the ‘X’, or at least I don’t think they’d sign him to. Maybe he could be your slot. Then you rely on Pringle or a draft pick at X.

Hilton can play anywhere, question is how many games you get.

TribalElder 03-19-2021 11:44 AM

HAHAHAHA

Wasn't steve nelsons bitch ass talking all that shit about KC

bundle of sticks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With stilll-<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a> WR JuJu Smith-Schuster staying home and making $8M, PIT will either cut or trade CB Steven Nelson, source said. He’s due $8.25M this season, but is headed elsewhere.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1372966337518182405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****ing burnt toast

The Franchise 03-19-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 15593814)
I'm surprised KC hasn't made a real push for Golladay. Expensive, yes, but would be an absolute game changer.

Maybe he’s out of their price range. Maybe they will now that Juju is gone.

Sassy Squatch 03-19-2021 11:44 AM

Golladay is bordering on Watkins brokedick territory. Hard pass.

ToxSocks 03-19-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15593802)
I don't understand why not offer him $10 mil straight up. Why 8 with incentives?

We know the Chiefs will pay a WR if they think he's worth it. It was obviously more than they felt he was worth.

htismaqe 03-19-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15593818)
HAHAHAHA

Wasn't steve nelsons bitch ass talking all that shit about KC

bundle of sticks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With stilll-<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a> WR JuJu Smith-Schuster staying home and making $8M, PIT will either cut or trade CB Steven Nelson, source said. He’s due $8.25M this season, but is headed elsewhere.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1372966337518182405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****ing burnt toast

ROFL

The Franchise 03-19-2021 11:45 AM

Dude turned down more money on a multi year deal from the Eagles. Jesus.

In58men 03-19-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15593820)
Golladay is bordering on Watkins brokedick territory. Hard pass.

He’s definitely not worth $18 million.

What a shitty free agency.

mkp785 03-19-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15593813)
Ty ain't playing that X WR I doubt.

I'd check on Galladay I suppose, but his hip is a big meh

That and the 18 million dollar price tag he supposedly is holding out for. Really shocked about juju. The **** is he thinking? Less money for a team that seems over him him anyway.

ToxSocks 03-19-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15593820)
Golladay is bordering on Watkins brokedick territory. Hard pass.

?

His only injury that im aware of was last season. I dont see the comparison.

-King- 03-19-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15593828)
He’s definitely not worth $18 million.

What a shitty free agency.

Uh oh, here comes Staylor...

staylor26 03-19-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15593832)
?

His only injury that im aware of was last season. I dont see the comparison.

There isn’t one.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-19-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 15593812)
Not sure that it matters. Leftover cap money this year will roll into next year, so if it is not spent, it will be there to spend in the future.

I trust in Veach. The team will be better next year than they were this year.

Right. Which is why they can’t panic and overpay for a bunch of guys just because, that’ll bite you in the future.

ToxSocks 03-19-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15593830)
That and the 18 million dollar price tag he supposedly is holding out for. Really shocked about juju. The **** is he thinking? Less money for a team that seems over him him anyway.

He's thinking that if he's gonna take a 1-yr prove it deal, it'll be easier to do on an offense he knows with a QB he knows. He's betting on consistency.

MahomesMagic 03-19-2021 11:48 AM

I think Veach is deliberately low balling people...


There is just a bunch of supply...No need to overpay.

Browns just grabbed Anthony Walker who is better than Hitchens for 3.5 million, 1 year!

-King- 03-19-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15593821)
We know the Chiefs will pay a WR if they think he's worth it. It was obviously more than they felt he was worth.

It's a 1 year deal...who cares? It's not like it was a multi year deal that could hurt us in the future if we overspent. We have like $20-$30mil in cap space. We couldn't push an extra mil or 2 to seal the deal?

I don't get the logic from both sides. Turning down our deal on Juju's part and not offering more than $8mil guaranteed if it looked like he was leaning towards staying.

The Franchise 03-19-2021 11:51 AM

Hopefully we’re going after Josh Reynolds.

Sassy Squatch 03-19-2021 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15593832)
?

His only injury that im aware of was last season. I dont see the comparison.

Managed to play a full season once in his career.

RunKC 03-19-2021 11:53 AM

Not ideal so far but there’s still a lot of quality role players out there

mkp785 03-19-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15593837)
He's thinking that if he's gonna take a 1-yr prove it deal, it'll be easier to do on an offense he knows with a QB he knows. He's betting on consistency.

Maybe. But in addition to all the other Big Rape problems that Pitt has and other WR target issues-they still have massive holes all along the oline.

The Franchise 03-19-2021 11:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are trying ... some you win, some you lose. They’re being aggressive, but some players just want to stay in their respective situations. <a href="https://t.co/HQcE3aAV72">https://t.co/HQcE3aAV72</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1372969537977556993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 03-19-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15593852)
Not ideal so far but there’s still a lot of quality role players out there

Like who?

Alshon Jeffery? DeSean Jackson?

Wallymo 03-19-2021 11:55 AM

What about Schwartz? He's made clear that he and his family are going to continue to live in Kansas City. Is there a plan to bring him in midseason after his back has completely healed? I just can't see him going somewhere else when he so adamant about the roots he's put down in Kansas City.

TribalElder 03-19-2021 11:58 AM

Chiefs probably had a no tik-tok dancing clause on JuJu's punk ass

ljmhawk 03-19-2021 11:59 AM

awesome....looks like we will have 3 game a year Sammy back

TribalElder 03-19-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk (Post 15593865)
awesome....looks like we will have 3 game a year Sammy back

thought he was spotted at a buffalo ny best buy or something

Pants 03-19-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk (Post 15593865)
awesome....looks like we will have 3 game a year Sammy back

Isn't he in BUF?

comochiefsfan 03-19-2021 12:02 PM

Guys, stay calm. It's only day 5 of free agency.

Veach has this.

BryanBusby 03-19-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15593730)
Holy shit. What a loser.

Seriously. Can't blame Veach on Juju being a ****ing moron.

Bowser 03-19-2021 12:04 PM

Veach watching all these FA's wanting to stay with their own teams

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d80f...temid=10358403

Bowser 03-19-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15593875)
Seriously. Can't blame Veach on Juju being a ****ing moron.

This

TribalElder 03-19-2021 12:06 PM

https://i.imgur.com/BBrfnk7.png

The Franchise 03-19-2021 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15593875)
Seriously. Can't blame Veach on Juju being a ****ing moron.

Apparently you can. We should have overpaid so that everyone could bitch about the overpay.

Pants 03-19-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15593885)

Keep up the good work. LMAO

Chief Roundup 03-19-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15593731)
He’s the third option in Pitt.

He would be 3rd here as well behind Hill and Kelce.

staylor26 03-19-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15593886)
Apparently you can. We should have overpaid so that everyone could bitch about the overpay.

Exactly.

You can’t win with these entitled miserable ****s.

MAG 03-19-2021 12:08 PM

Thank god I don't have to root for that dipshit.

BryanBusby 03-19-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15593886)
Apparently you can. We should have overpaid so that everyone could bitch about the overpay.

Seems the Ravens were willing to go over and he was still like, nah.

Sometimes a player makes a stupid ass choice and that's what happened here.

TribalElder 03-19-2021 12:12 PM

If you are a receiver I can totally understand why you would avoid the Ravens like the plague

KC Hawks 03-19-2021 12:13 PM

Antonio Brown is available... :)

BryanBusby 03-19-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15593905)
If you are a receiver I can totally understand why you would avoid the Ravens like the plague

At this point I think Lamar Jackson might be preferable over Ben's old corpse ass.

-King- 03-19-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15593886)
Apparently you can. We should have overpaid so that everyone could bitch about the overpay.

Do you think 1 year $10 would have been an overpay?

The Franchise 03-19-2021 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15593914)
Do you think 1 year $10 would have been an overpay?

Nope. Now go look at what the Ravens offered him. He wouldn’t have taken $10 from us either.

staylor26 03-19-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15593914)
Do you think 1 year $10 would have been an overpay?

Apparently the entire NFL does based on his market.

Do you know for a fact that it would have gotten it done?

mkp785 03-19-2021 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 15593907)
Antonio Brown is available... :)

So is Josh Gordon, he can even bring his current teammate Johnny Football over to be Mahomes backup :p

MahomesMagic 03-19-2021 12:20 PM

Why should the Chiefs overpay? No need to.

JuJu is more of a slot. We had a price, he didn't want it. Next.

-King- 03-19-2021 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15593917)
Nope. Now go look at what the Ravens offered him. He wouldn’t have taken $10 from us either.

9 mil from a team that throws the least amount of times in the league is different from 10 mil from one of the teams that throws the most.

staylor26 03-19-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15593933)
9 mil from a team that throws the least amount of times in the league is different from 10 mil from one of the teams that throws the most.

So you’re pretending to know what JuJu was thinking....

It’s pretty obvious that it would’ve taken a significant difference to get JuJu to leave his comfort zone where he knows the offense and feels he has a better shot for next years market.

-King- 03-19-2021 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15593918)
Apparently the entire NFL does based on his market.

Do you know for a fact that it would have gotten it done?

No maybe it wouldn't. But telling a player that they're 100% guaranteed to get $2mil more by coming here is a significantly better selling point than telling them they might get $3 more mil coming here.

Don't you think?

staylor26 03-19-2021 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15593973)
No maybe it wouldn't. But telling a player that they're 100% guaranteed to get $2mil more by coming here is a significantly better selling point than telling them they might get $3 more mil coming here.

Don't you think?

Of course more guaranteed money is better than incentives. Who is arguing against that?

You are saying the Chiefs should’ve offered more. They didn’t. Deal with it. You didn’t get your boy JuJu, so you’re playing armchair GM telling us “well I would’ve guaranteed it all” when we don’t even know if it would’ve made a difference. It’s futile and just your way of deflecting from the fact that the Chiefs offered more than Pitt and still didn’t get him, so you can try and put the blame on the Chiefs too. That’s on JuJu, not Veach.

TribalElder 03-19-2021 12:42 PM

JuJu would have been a disaster

**** that guy

I don't need some shithead dancing on logos for tiktok fame

****ing bundle of sticks

NEXT

TribalElder 03-19-2021 12:45 PM

JuJu was probably afraid snoop dogg wouldn't be a fan of his next team

comochiefsfan 03-19-2021 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15594009)
JuJu would have been a disaster

**** that guy

I don't need some shithead dancing on logos for tiktok fame

****ing bundle of sticks

NEXT

We already have a guy like that. His name is Jackson Mahomes.

Frankly i'm a little surprised JuJu didn't come here simply for the business opportunities he and Jackson could've drummed up.

O.city 03-19-2021 12:48 PM

Gotta pivot. Didn’t get Williams or juju

Pivot on to another option. Swing a trade etc

In58men 03-19-2021 01:01 PM

At this point, we’re throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2021 01:03 PM

Dumb****s think the NFL off-season is Madden and you can sign anyone you want. We lost on 2 guys who obviously had no intention of leaving their current teams.

FloridaMan88 03-19-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 15594064)
Dumb****s think the NFL off-season is Madden and you can sign anyone you want. We lost on 2 guys who obviously had no intention of leaving their current teams.

One guy was ridiculously overpaid and has a loyalty to Super Bowl Chokeartist, Kyle Shanahan and the other guy is loyal to soon-to-be-retired Rapelethisberger.

It's their respective losses, not the Chiefs.

Wallymo 03-19-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15593801)
It's not over yet.

The plan is still to buy. Anything we don't use gets rolled into next year.

Or can be used to frontload an extension to Badger.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-19-2021 01:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TaylorBisciotti?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TaylorBisciotti</a> cites overall number of existing playmakers in Kansas City as a motivating factor in JuJu&#39;s decision to choose Steelers over Chiefs.</p>&mdash; Chris Mueller (@ChrisMuellerPGH) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMuellerPGH/status/1372979616722341888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-19-2021 01:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Same base salary KC reportedly offered. We don’t know the incentives. Chiefs have Tyreek + Kelce who will get huge numbers, Mecole, and then JuJu. He clearly wants to hit FA again. Trading incentives to be a high volume WR in Pitt’s system before hitting FA isn’t that odd is it? <a href="https://t.co/ShPz39Pscb">https://t.co/ShPz39Pscb</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1372971666276487178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Buehler445 03-19-2021 01:14 PM

I wonder if juju would just give me the 3M.

milkshock 03-19-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15594098)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Same base salary KC reportedly offered. We don’t know the incentives. Chiefs have Tyreek + Kelce who will get huge numbers, Mecole, and then JuJu. He clearly wants to hit FA again. Trading incentives to be a high volume WR in Pitt’s system before hitting FA isn’t that odd is it? <a href="https://t.co/ShPz39Pscb">https://t.co/ShPz39Pscb</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1372971666276487178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

he 'proved it' this year by catching 100 balls, he was still not being offered the money he would have hoped for - why woud next year be any different?

Pants 03-19-2021 01:25 PM

Mitch Schwartz has really good takes. Doesn't he have a personality too?

He needs to be on ESPN.

UChieffyBugger 03-19-2021 01:27 PM

Obviously getting a vet wr would be nice but I'd happily take Kyle Fuller, Clowney/Dunlap and Alexander for the defense right now with Okung as a vet LT. All is not lost yet yall.

New World Order 03-19-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15594058)
At this point, we’re throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick.

Still some time though.

-King- 03-19-2021 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 15594112)
he 'proved it' this year by catching 100 balls, he was still not being offered the money he would have hoped for - why woud next year be any different?

Because this year was terrible for FA WRs overall.

O.city 03-19-2021 01:34 PM

Free agency is for supplementing your roster and filling holes

Find the cornerstones in the draft. If something presents itself in free agency fine.

They need to fill some holes in defense and go heavy on offense in the draft

ToxSocks 03-19-2021 01:35 PM

Im guessing we shift our attention to DE at this point.

The Franchise 03-19-2021 01:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, the Chiefs and center Austin Reiter remain in negotiations on a new deal. He&#39;s currently weighing all options.<br><br>(The Star&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HerbieTeope</a> initially reported KC&#39;s offer on Wednesday)</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1372989769219706886?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

comochiefsfan 03-19-2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15594122)
Mitch Schwartz has really good takes. Doesn't he have a personality too?

He needs to be on ESPN.

ESPN isn't looking for people with good takes.

tk13 03-19-2021 01:45 PM

Not ideal but the reality is if Veach is going to keep this team as a contender he's going to have to draft well and fill in some of these spots. You can't stay afloat only through FA. It's too expensive and there's no guarantee you'll get the guys you want.

jettio 03-19-2021 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 15594112)
he 'proved it' this year by catching 100 balls, he was still not being offered the money he would have hoped for - why woud next year be any different?

Maybe player and agent are supposing salary cap is lower this year and new TV deals may improve chances for multiyear next year.

staylor26 03-19-2021 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15594135)
Because this year was terrible for FA WRs overall.

This is becoming an every year thing.

If you aren’t getting an elite WR, why would you overpay anybody in free agency when the draft is constantly loaded with talent at the position?

RunKC 03-19-2021 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15594034)
Gotta pivot. Didn’t get Williams or juju

Pivot on to another option. Swing a trade etc

How often has spending big money on external big names worked for us recently?

Frank Clark? No
Sammy Watkins? No
Anthony Hitchens? No

Tyrann Mathieu has been our only major external FA addition that has been worth the money.

That’s an important lesson here. Load up on the Austin Reiter’s, Damien Wilson’s and Dan Sorenson types who just do their job effectively, look for lottery tickets like we did with Ward and Ogbah and then attack the draft.

O.city 03-19-2021 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15594172)
How often has spending big money on external big names worked for us recently?

Frank Clark? No
Sammy Watkins? No
Anthony Hitchens? No

Tyrann Mathieu has been our only major external FA addition that has been worth the money.

That’s an important lesson here. Load up on the Austin Reiter’s, Damien Wilson’s and Dan Sorenson types who just do their job effectively, look for lottery tickets like we did with Ward and Ogbah and then attack the draft.

Schwartz was a great one.

But yeah, go looking for bargains. There’s plenty out there on the defensive side of the ball

chiefforlife 03-19-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15594172)
How often has spending big money on external big names worked for us recently?

Frank Clark? No
Sammy Watkins? No
Anthony Hitchens? No

Tyrann Mathieu has been our only major external FA addition that has been worth the money.

That’s an important lesson here. Load up on the Austin Reiter’s, Damien Wilson’s and Dan Sorenson types who just do their job effectively, look for lottery tickets like we did with Ward and Ogbah and then attack the draft.

We WON A SUPERBOWL with those guys. All of them were very important to winning that SUPERBOWL!

Man I cant believe some of the stuff written here lately.

In58men 03-19-2021 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15594146)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, the Chiefs and center Austin Reiter remain in negotiations on a new deal. He&#39;s currently weighing all options.<br><br>(The Star&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HerbieTeope</a> initially reported KC&#39;s offer on Wednesday)</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1372989769219706886?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When you’re desperately wanting some kind of action, this is what we get. Sad.


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