And the article states that they really didn't want a comment they wanted a "condemnation" of Gruden by Reid. What a load of horseshit. Good job cutting them off at the pass, let them bitch.

EA replaces Gruden with “Roster Player”…

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I love being lectured on "trust" and "respect" by a franchise owned by that scumbag Dean Spanos.

Have you watched Andy's press conferences? He basically knows football and food. He's pretty awkward outside of those topics.

No coach owes any comments on this shit. It's not their business.

Gruden has a right to feel how he wants. Like it or not.

That might be true but you have to live with the consequences as well. And in this day and age you just cannot survive something like this..

This isn’t a government imposed limit on speech. Everyone is free to be a bigot, a misogynist, or homophobe, or any other flavor of jerk they chose to be. There are millions of them walking around free with no threats to their liberty. However, if you want to represent an organization or be thought well of in polite company or avoid being a bigot, you have to pay attention to feelings of other people. You cannot openly use language or practice attitudes that are known to be offensive for decades. Which is what Gruden did. Yes, this is a moving target, but so is language in general, technology, NFL defenses, and so many other thing that our daily lives depend on. As much as some would like to argue to the contrary, this isn’t a threat to our way of life or the foundations of our country.

I agree. In today's world and the media you must love everyone no matter what and if you don't then keep it to yourself.

find it weird to go to bat for Jon freaking Gruden, someone who's been overrated as a coach since at least 2004. Was he stupid for putting that shit down in documented writing? Yes. Is it kind of dumb this is such a huge deal right now? Yes. Is it really that egregious that the guy was forced to quit being the mediocre coach of a mediocre team? No.

Who the **** cares the guy lost his job? It's not like he was any good at it. Maybe if he was still at MNF in this current year and was forced to step down because of this I'd see it.

And in an nfl locker room it's not cool to embrace the bundle of sticks. And it's not masculine to not participate in sexual harassment, right? The cancel culture argument works both ways. Maybe Gruden didn't deserve to be canceled. But you know who also didn't deserve it? Kerry Rhodes. Or the WFT women who had the audacity to blow the whistle then got shit canned for it.

It doesn't work it you protest cancel culture in favor of reverting back to a different version of cancel culture.

There is a push back to see in regards of cancel culture. Look at Dave Chappelle and his new special on Netflix. People realize that it's gone to far but in this case, it was just plain stupid by Gruden to put this in writing, regardless of cancel culture.

Because you should.

That low class by Vahe to make rules for Andy Reid to follow. It is not a topic that needs a comment from every person.

That's really true unless he was talking about someone on his current roster.

Now Nassib requested a "Personal Day" I guess this was harder on him then getting jabbed in the ass by some 300+ lb dude

I really appreciate having andy reid after watching this.

Hoping for the (second) best for your team, R8R. ;)


Just when you think the ball gets rolling with your team, a non-football issue interferes.


This is all very stupid for everyone involved.

He was the only coach I thought would be able to turn that franchise around. Even though they hadn’t done much the previous three seasons, I still remember him as the one that turned the tables of the Chiefs dominating the Raiders. Part of me likes to see him go, but definitely not this way.

This is rich

Thought you said they wanted them to win?

That article by Vahe Gregorian is crap. Contrary to what people who have grown up with social media might think, everyone's opinion on a particular subject doesn't need to be expressed, nor do they have any responsibility to do so.

Should what? Be fake and love everyone of just just keep stuff to yourself?

There is this concept from the Bible that we are all supposed to live by. It is called the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

That same guy who gave us that code to live by told us to love thy neighbor as thyself.

There are plenty more like that in the directions from that same guy for how to be a good person.

Yall know what the deal is here. Jason Whitlock is the only person in the media with the balls to tell the truth. Gruden should have known better but delving into peoples private conversations are taking it too far.

Man I really don't care, also lets make sure to put a microphone in every player locker.

Fair is Fair

He emailed Reid on occasion, Maybe told an off color joke and Reid may have not responded the way the Wokes think he should have by saying "Jon thats bad, you should not say that" Would it be right to go after Reid? Hell no it wouldn't but if that did happen they will.

Is Whitlock even in the media anymore? I thought he gave up and was just working for an at home blog subscription site or something now.

he has a great youtube channel

Probably never know. This only came up because Gruden emailed that shit to Bruce Allen.

How long has that email investigation been going on now? He got on the bad side of Roger and that's the main reason he is gone. Seriously the Raiders are over the hump, they have talent and a big beautiful stadium and a state that will attract free agents, they will be fine and probably be better off without Chucky , it just rubs me wrong how people can publish and pilfer though private communications and dumbasses like Randy Moss can literally cry on tv because somebody said someone had Michilin Lips... Unreal

If people don't think Gruden's emails were selectively leaked I dn what to tell you.

The NFL hoped that leaking Gruden's emails would take the light off of the rest of it.

It will backfire and shine a brighter light on them.

The media is gathering up pitch forks and torches.

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Didn't that guy have some anti-gay statements in his book?

How big would the parachute have to be in order to keep Chucky from going scorched earth?

Yeah. Gentlemen don't read other people's mail.

No, not Jesus.

The sad thing about the actual statements in the NT about the gays is that it doesn't say it's any different than any other sin that causes spiritual death. People focus on that one sin out of a long list of sins that "Christians" likely commit on the regular.

Just imagine how big the NFL's woke campaign is going to be next year after the media tries to flesh this one out.

The white borders around the field of play that define the boundaries will have anti gay, anti racist, and anti sexist slogans etched in them.

That SJW Enclave cant burn to the ground fast enough. That article is the equivalent of "Silence Is Violence".

Words cant express how much I despise the KC Star anymore.

fyp

Not buying an argument it isn't the government policing free speech when the NFL has been gifted an anti-trust exemption.

Too late. It's permeated every segment of society.

Jason Whitlock is a gigantic moron

How dare that black man disagree with you!

Of course they were... the NFL saw an opportunity to create sympathy for DeMaurice Smith and help keep him in the NFLPA leadership position at a time when there were rumors he might step down or be replaced.

And amazingly "coincidental" timing... DeMaurice Smith gets re-elected to serve a new term as NFLPA Executive Director last Friday.

Also the NFL has hated Gruden for years... going back to when he was a MNF announcer and would constantly criticize the refs. The chance to end his career, while getting their DeMaurice Smith goals accomplished was icing on the cake.

It's a prelude to forcing Mark Davis to sell out.

No he isn't.

Randy Moss is a pussy. Nassib needed a personal day because he is a pussy. The NFL has gone weak and is ran by pussies.

Preach

If this happens, I'll have to think long and hard about whether I'll continue following the NFL at all.

I am already there I think and I am not even upset about Chucky and really never was. I am sick and tired of all the WOKE pussies that no matter what happens in this world they will NEVER be happy and want more.

I am not upset over Chucky. He didn't say anything that other men and women have not said in private conversations. If he was a black comedian he could make fun of big lips and every white person ever born and nobody would care. But he isn't. He's a rich middle aged white HC in the NFL and isn't allowed his own opinion on anything.

I think it stinks he didn't say the Michelin tires on that mans face were all terrain. Seems like an opportunity lost.

There has never been a man that walked on the face of this earth that hasn't said something racist or homophobic including Black people and other minorities. I don't know when but the shit will come to a head one day and all hell is gonna break loose. People are gonna wake up one day and realize they spent their whole life fighting to force people to think the way they want them to think and they never did. There are racists in every country in this world and no matter what you do you are not going to change them. They got mad at the word QUEER he used... Well thats what the Q in LGBTQ means unless I am mistaken. The NFL should not have pressured Fisher to draft a gay guy just because he is gay, The NFL should not have to interview a minority when 80% of the league are minorities.

Q = questioning.

Raiders fans should all get the Mark Davis haircut to stand in solidarity with him.

Heh, and that is why Gruden was sacrificed. He had the audacity to call it out. When he said Goodell is a bundle of sticks and pussy, that sealed it.

Mark isn’t cash flush.

It’s coming.

When are some of you snowflakes going to stop watching the NFL over issues like this?!?!?

Take a ****ing stand you pussies!!!!

I'm sure taking a personal day because his fee-fees got hurt will win him tons of respect from his heterosexual teammates.

He's grifting right wing dipshits. He has nowhere else to turn

Did this get dropped in here?

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Make up your mind. Is he an idiot or is he a genius?

Amazing the mental gymnastics people like you go through to rationalize your disdain for a black man that doesn’t follow the woke gospel.

Which is ****ing dumb. The team generates all the cash needed for the team to flourish.

Looking forward to buying the book on the NFL written by Gruden and seeing it turned into a movie.

This is the shit that the Blue Check marks get their belts around their necks and get out the bottle of Jergens for.

Two grown men throw jabs and the SJWs come marching into save one.

God, you ****s are annoying.

I think it is very possible that Andy Reid has never sent an e-mail in his entire life.

Try jumping into a time machine to the 90’s and convincing most of the people on this board that Gruden’s hateful rhetoric is worth defending or that Whitlock is even a decent journalist if you want to talk about mental gymnastics. I mean Whitlock is working for some Glenn Beck conglomerate now according to Wikipedia yet he’s still discussed on this board like he’s a part of the national media scene still. I don’t think anyone outside of that little echo chamber even realize he is still alive.

He has 500,000 twitter followers.

Whitlock is a lot like Joe Rogan, you can always tell when someone is talking out their ass about them and only knows what they regurgitate from others or only know them from 15 or 20 years ago and assume Whitlock is still partying his ass off and Joe Rogan is still doing Fear Factor.

Exactly. Yet people like to compare him to national media journalists. I guess I can see why he despises Lebron so much. King James probably had 500,000 Twitter followers in high school before it was even created. :LOL:

Yeah right, he despises Lebron over twitter followers. He despises Lebron because Lebron is a shitty human being who hates cops and white people. The hypocrisy that has come out of Lebron's mouth is proof of how stupid he is.

NFL removes all coaches, players, and fans who have ever said anything bad about anyone. Only Tim Tebow remains. Lmao. Babylon Bee.

Not surprising, really, when you consider he has had everything handed to him thanks to insane physical gifts and talent. Lebron is the sports world equivalent of a child tv/movie star. Coddled, pampered, surrounded by sycophants, uneducated, and completely self-centered/narcissistic. That is a sure fire way to ensure a person turns out shitty. JWhit merely points it out; people gasp and swoon because he also happens to be a black man. He's not wrong, he's just heretical...aka "off the plantation", aka thinking for himself (thus my/many person's respect)

Yea, that’s why he despises Lebron, not because he does shit like this:


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Guarantee you it took like 5 tries for Lebron to spell accountability correctly.

I agree, but it's important to other owners for some reason.