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BigRedChief 08-14-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16412294)
Pujols coming through big today. Have to say I thought his signing to be an afterthought and nothing more than a ride on the nostalgia train.

Carlson had a huge HR as well.


One inning short of a sweep.

Pujols with one homer into Big Mac Land and other one 443 feet and 109mph off the bat.

The dude can still run into one pretty good.

BigRedChief 08-14-2022 05:15 PM

I guess some Brewer players got their panties in a bunch after the 2nd HR. Albert said he wasn’t trying to show the Brewers up, it just happens that way naturally. He’s trying to fire up his teammates and the fans. Being PC or not, this team could use some toughness.

So Marmol said this after the game when asked….

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“This is our house.” — message Albert Pujols was sending with his celebration after that second homer, per Oliver Marmol. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/stlcards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#stlcards</a></p>&mdash; Derrick Goold (@dgoold) <a href="https://twitter.com/dgoold/status/1558919348265287680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marcellus 08-14-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16412454)
I guess some Brewer players got their panties in a bunch after the 2nd HR. Albert said he wasn’t trying to show the Brewers up, it just happens that way naturally. He’s trying to fire up his teammates and the fans. Being PC or not, this team could use some toughness.

So Marmol said this after the game when asked….

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“This is our house.” — message Albert Pujols was sending with his celebration after that second homer, per Oliver Marmol. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/stlcards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#stlcards</a></p>&mdash; Derrick Goold (@dgoold) <a href="https://twitter.com/dgoold/status/1558919348265287680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**** them I loved it.

Marco Polo 08-14-2022 06:32 PM

Love it when the players show emotion

Marcellus 08-14-2022 06:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FIRE ME UP ALBERT PUJOLS!!<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/LXl5ELzpvD">pic.twitter.com/LXl5ELzpvD</a></p>&mdash; Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenVerlander/status/1558915482236776449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

oldandslow 08-14-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16412517)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FIRE ME UP ALBERT PUJOLS!!<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/LXl5ELzpvD">pic.twitter.com/LXl5ELzpvD</a></p>&mdash; Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenVerlander/status/1558915482236776449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Was at today's game. Great atmosphere. Great game. That second Pujols' drive was enough to make one think of Brad Lidge. Don't think he can do it, but would love him to pass A-Fraud on the HR list.

I was afraid his signing would be a PR stunt. I was wrong. The man can still absolutely crush lefty's.

Which begs the question, what the heck was Craig Counsell doing? Having Rogers face Goldschmidt, Arenado and Pujols is Mike Matheny level thinking.

Wonder if the Brewers miss Hader yet?

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-14-2022 08:10 PM

I can't believe that was the one game I attended, and with great seats to boot (154 row 2). My wife and I decided to go on a lark on Friday night, and only after she bought the tickets did I realize that they were facing a lefty so that Pujols would start. To see perhaps the last great game from the best player the franchise has produced in my lifetime is absolutely unforgettable.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-14-2022 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16411813)
Meh. He got popped by some pretty lame ass AAS that is in prescription medications. He initially appealed the ban but then dropped it after he found out it was his **** up. Whether it was ringworm medicine or not, I dont think he was actually trying to cheat. He ****ed up and took something without running it through all of the avenues available to these guys to cross check and make for sure its safe to use and he's gonna pay for it. Lucky for him he's going to pay for it at the right time in his contract and not later down the line. See ya in 80 games.

It's not in any prescription medicine in the United States. It's not used for ringworm in the States, either. It's not even listed in Lexicomp or Goodman and Gilman's. He got busted using a testosterone derivative to enhance his performance, just like Dee Gordon did when he got busted for clostebol.

BigRedChief 08-14-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 16412565)
Was at today's game. Great atmosphere. Great game. That second Pujols' drive was enough to make one think of Brad Lidge. Don't think he can do it, but would love him to pass A-Fraud on the HR list.

I’m sure they have used stat cast on his home run off Lidge by now. Wonder what the speed of the ball was off the bat?

I know they said it was Only like 420 feet but if that outside glass wasn’t there, it would have went far.

Congrats on seeing Pujols in person perform on a day like he was in his HOF worthy heyday. What a cool experience.

jd1020 08-14-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 16412608)
It's not in any prescription medicine in the United States. It's not used for ringworm in the States, either. It's not even listed in Lexicomp or Goodman and Gilman's. He got busted using a testosterone derivative to enhance his performance, just like Dee Gordon did when he got busted for clostebol.

Dee Gordon tested positive for multiple PEDs.

kcpasco 08-14-2022 10:02 PM

Wouldn’t mind Albert coming back again as a bench player. The guy can still clearly hit lefties. WTF did that shitty ass Angels franchise do to him for 10 years.

jd1020 08-14-2022 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 16412667)
Wouldn’t mind Albert coming back again as a bench player.

Hasn't he already said this is his last year? He's from the Dominican so he's probably 47.

BigRedChief 08-14-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16412492)
**** them I loved it.

The disappointment in real time. This loss has to be crushing for them. :thumb:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I like this shot of Victor Caratini during the Pujols homer <a href="https://t.co/xvWDPSxHGk">pic.twitter.com/xvWDPSxHGk</a></p>&mdash; Jacob (@CardinalsReek) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardinalsReek/status/1558992140620992512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

raybec 4 08-15-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 16412565)
Was at today's game. Great atmosphere. Great game. That second Pujols' drive was enough to make one think of Brad Lidge. Don't think he can do it, but would love him to pass A-Fraud on the HR list.

I was afraid his signing would be a PR stunt. I was wrong. The man can still absolutely crush lefty's.

Which begs the question, what the heck was Craig Counsell doing? Having Rogers face Goldschmidt, Arenado and Pujols is Mike Matheny level thinking.

Wonder if the Brewers miss Hader yet?

He only needs 8 more to pass ARod. It's definitely possible. About 50 games left in the season.

BigRedChief 08-18-2022 01:46 PM

Albert Pujols was my favorite player since Bob Gibson. We could all see the decline starting. I was okay with him leaving to the DH league. I just didn’t want him to come back and embarrass himself flaying around at the plate striking out.

It makes me so happy to have watched him this last week. Reminds me when he was the best hitter in the game on his way to being the best RH hitter in the history of the game. The Pujols we saw in his prime is for at least a week, was the Pujols we saw have the best 11 years of baseball ever.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HOME RUN NO. 690 FOR ALBERT PUJOLS IS OH SO GRAND!!!<br><br>TV: Bally Sports Midwest<br>Stream: <a href="https://t.co/T19nzOKKEf">https://t.co/T19nzOKKEf</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> <a href="https://t.co/LPQfcwchmi">pic.twitter.com/LPQfcwchmi</a></p>&mdash; Bally Sports Midwest (@BallySportsMW) <a href="https://twitter.com/BallySportsMW/status/1560333417648201729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 08-18-2022 01:53 PM

Pujols had to leave St. Louis - his body couldn't hold up at 1b anymore.

But you do wonder if he would've made a few choices differently, could he be chasing Aaron right now? Bonds?

As recently as 2016 he was still a dangerous hitter. He was among the league leaders in quality of contact that season - the stats just didn't reflect it because the AL West has 3 pretty awful environments to hit in, including his home park.

BigRedChief 08-18-2022 03:35 PM

Getting our monies worth for Bader. He still has another year of control, right?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Montgomery is 3-0 with a 0.54 ERA in his first 3 starts with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cardinals</a> 👀<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLBCentral?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLBCentral</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/markdero7?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@markdero7</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonmorosi</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMayorsOffice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMayorsOffice</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/RoFlo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RoFlo</a> <a href="https://t.co/fIxMGfXj2p">pic.twitter.com/fIxMGfXj2p</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1560348304302432256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 08-18-2022 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16418158)
Getting our monies worth for Bader. He still has another year of control, right?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Montgomery is 3-0 with a 0.54 ERA in his first 3 starts with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cardinals</a> 👀<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLBCentral?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLBCentral</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/markdero7?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@markdero7</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonmorosi</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMayorsOffice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMayorsOffice</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/RoFlo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RoFlo</a> <a href="https://t.co/fIxMGfXj2p">pic.twitter.com/fIxMGfXj2p</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1560348304302432256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah.

And he'll do well in STL. The Yankees park and bad defense were a pretty bad match for him. And he was still largely effective. With the Cardinals he'll get an easier division, better home park and much better defense. If he can stay at 93-94 mph with his fastball and 91-92 with the sinker, that big curve and decent enough changeup will all play nicely off each other. Probably the kind of guy you should approach with a 3 year, $51 million sort of extension in the off-season. Then again, Marcus !#@$ing Stroman got 3 years $71 million so he may just laugh that figure off. You might have to get nearer to what Roriguez got from the Tigers and offer 5 years. Maybe you can get out of that for 5/$90 million?

Edmonds made a good point about guys freezing on his sinker last night - he throws the 4-seamer down and it looks like a sinker that will dive out of the zone (because he was heavy sinker in NY). Now he's throwing the 4-seamer down, they expect it to dart out of the zone but then it stays up a bit and catches the bottom of the zone for a called strike.

I don't understand how anyone doesn't like Edmonds on the call. That guy teaches me something every damn day. And I guarantee that the people that dislike him know less about the game than I do. They would benefit a great deal by absorbing what Edmonds has to say.

But you have to bring Montgomery back - this staff is in ROUGH shape come 2024. Mikolas, Flahery and Wainwright are all UFAs on/before then. You're looking at Matz, Hudson and...uh...natch. Liberatore don't look like he's the guy. Maybe Thompson? You'd need Graceffo and McGreevy to fly through the system. Hence probably won't be ready. at this rate Pallante would be pencilled in as your 3rd starter.

raybec 4 08-18-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16418188)
Yeah.

And he'll do well in STL. The Yankees park and bad defense were a pretty bad match for him. And he was still largely effective. With the Cardinals he'll get an easier division, better home park and much better defense. If he can stay at 93-94 mph with his fastball and 91-92 with the sinker, that big curve and decent enough changeup will all play nicely off each other. Probably the kind of guy you should approach with a 3 year, $51 million sort of extension in the off-season. Then again, Marcus !#@$ing Stroman got 3 years $71 million so he may just laugh that figure off. You might have to get nearer to what Roriguez got from the Tigers and offer 5 years. Maybe you can get out of that for 5/$90 million?

Edmonds made a good point about guys freezing on his sinker last night - he throws the 4-seamer down and it looks like a sinker that will dive out of the zone (because he was heavy sinker in NY). Now he's throwing the 4-seamer down, they expect it to dart out of the zone but then it stays up a bit and catches the bottom of the zone for a called strike.

I don't understand how anyone doesn't like Edmonds on the call. That guy teaches me something every damn day. And I guarantee that the people that dislike him know less about the game than I do. They would benefit a great deal by absorbing what Edmonds has to say.

But you have to bring Montgomery back - this staff is in ROUGH shape come 2024. Mikolas, Flahery and Wainwright are all UFAs on/before then. You're looking at Matz, Hudson and...uh...natch. Liberatore don't look like he's the guy. Maybe Thompson? You'd need Graceffo and McGreevy to fly through the system. Hence probably won't be ready. at this rate Pallante would be pencilled in as your 3rd starter.

2 things:

I absolutely love Edmonds in the booth. People that don't like him can't separate his personal bullshit from his job

No matter what the upside there is no scenario where they should even entertain making Flaherty a long term offer. Injured cancer is all that kid is.

bdj23 08-18-2022 05:19 PM

Edmonds is great

BigRedChief 08-18-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16418276)
Edmonds is great

Yeah he is. Something happen? Why do people hate him?


They want hrbosky back?

Rams Fan 08-18-2022 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16417951)
Pujols had to leave St. Louis - his body couldn't hold up at 1b anymore.

But you do wonder if he would've made a few choices differently, could he be chasing Aaron right now? Bonds?

As recently as 2016 he was still a dangerous hitter. He was among the league leaders in quality of contact that season - the stats just didn't reflect it because the AL West has 3 pretty awful environments to hit in, including his home park.

He still played first regularly through 2015.

The issue is he started dealing with plantar fasciitis in 2013.

And no, I don't think he'd be chasing Bonds or Aaron now. Maybe Ruth if 2020 wasn't a shortened season.

BigRedChief 08-18-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16418355)
He still played first regularly through 2015.

The issue is he started dealing with plantar fasciitis in 2013.

And no, I don't think he'd be chasing Bonds or Aaron now. Maybe Ruth if 2020 wasn't a shortened season.

well I guess he has $300+ million instead of a top 5 career. He’ll have to settle for top 10.

raybec 4 08-18-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16418498)
well I guess he has $300+ million instead of a top 5 career. He’ll have to settle for top 10.

Easily a top 5 career

Rams Fan 08-18-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16418510)
Easily a top 5 career

The issue with viewing Pujols' career is that the first half was remarkable and the second half was...not.

In terms of hitters/position players, I'd put the following above him:

Ruth
Bonds
Mays
Aaron
Cobb

Then also throw in guys like Hornsby, Mantle, Ted Williams, Musial.

I think he's a top 10 hitter of all time. Not sure I'd say top 5 based off the second half of his career.

VAChief 08-18-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16418518)
The issue with viewing Pujols' career is that the first half was remarkable and the second half was...not.

In terms of hitters/position players, I'd put the following above him:

Ruth
Bonds
Mays
Aaron
Cobb

Then also throw in guys like Hornsby, Mantle, Ted Williams, Musial.

I think he's a top 10 hitter of all time. Not sure I'd say top 5 based off the second half of his career.

He’s 3rd in total bases, 3rd in RBIs, 5th in home runs (behind 2 PED users), and 10th in total hits.

I’d argue top 5 has a good case.

raybec 4 08-18-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 16418529)
He’s 3rd in total bases, 3rd in RBIs, 5th in home runs (behind 2 PED users), and 10th in total hits.

I’d argue top 5 has a good case.

5th in doubles, 10th in Grand Slams.....easy top 5

BigRedChief 08-18-2022 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16418518)
The issue with viewing Pujols' career is that the first half was remarkable and the second half was...not.

In terms of hitters/position players, I'd put the following above him:

Ruth
Bonds
Mays
Aaron
Cobb

Then also throw in guys like Hornsby, Mantle, Ted Williams, Musial.

I think he's a top 10 hitter of all time. Not sure I'd say top 5 based off the second half of his career.

Ruth
Cobb
Aaron
Mays
Pujols
?

VAChief 08-19-2022 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16418567)
Ruth
Cobb
Aaron
Mays
Pujols
?

There is no definitive “best” stat, but for me if you are talking about best “hitter”…Total Bases comes pretty close. It accounts for weighted damage done. The top 5 all time are Aaron, Musial, Pujols, Mays, and Bonds. All played at least 22 years. Cobb is sixth and played 24 years.

BigRedChief 08-19-2022 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 16418685)
There is no definitive “best” stat, but for me if you are talking about best “hitter”…Total Bases comes pretty close. It accounts for weighted damage done. The top 5 all time are Aaron, Musial, Pujols, Mays, and Bonds. All played at least 22 years. Cobb is sixth and played 24 years.

I'm not including Bonds or Alex due to their use of steroids. Mays may have taken speed (greenies) like most ball players in the 50's-early 60's.But, he never admitted it like Yogi and Mantle.

bdj23 08-19-2022 10:54 PM

God damn, the Yankees have become really bad.

Pepe Silvia 08-20-2022 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16419829)
God damn, the Yankees have become really bad.

They couldn’t maintain that pace they were on.

Jewish Rabbi 08-20-2022 05:16 AM

Should have never traded their ace, Jordan Montgomery.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-20-2022 07:20 AM

Pujols is amazing but that Angels stint hurts his perspective as a top 5 hitter.

BigRedChief 08-20-2022 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16419944)
Pujols is amazing but that Angels stint hurts his perspective as a top 5 hitter.

I get that he was average at best in Anaheim. But, doesn't baseball judge players on their overall stats? Not giving weight to these specific years over the other years?

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-20-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16419949)
I get that he was average at best in Anaheim. But, doesn't baseball judge players on their overall stats? Not giving weight to these specific years over the other years?

I think it depends on the person.

A lot of those top players mentioned were more consistent throughout their career. But it is up to each person judging.

When you look at Pujois' splits between St. Louis and Anaheim/California/Los Angeles Angels, it is like two different players. Especially in BA and OBP.

bdj23 08-20-2022 06:39 PM

Albert is gonna get 700

Jewish Rabbi 08-20-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16421347)
Albert is gonna get 700

Im not convinced unless the Cardinals can clinch the division early and run him out there every game for the last week and a half of the season. Even then, he may need some Cal Ripken ASG meatballs

bdj23 08-20-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16421376)
Im not convinced unless the Cardinals can clinch the division early and run him out there every game for the last week and a half of the season. Even then, he may need some Cal Ripken ASG meatballs

He's hit what 4 homers in the past 10 games? It's easily doable at this current pace

bdj23 08-20-2022 07:13 PM

Also Hudson sucks ass

bdj23 08-20-2022 07:17 PM

BOOM!

Jewish Rabbi 08-20-2022 07:20 PM

Or he’ll get it in August lol

bdj23 08-20-2022 08:04 PM

That was almost 693

bdj23 08-20-2022 08:16 PM

Wtf was that lol I've played better right field 15 beers deep

bdj23 08-20-2022 08:25 PM

God damn arenado is good

VAChief 08-20-2022 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16421481)
God damn arenado is good

This team is fun to watch right now. Feels similar to that stretch last year.

bdj23 08-20-2022 09:10 PM

Hicks sucks so bad

ChiefsCountry 08-20-2022 09:36 PM

This game tonight is wild. Hicks about blows it. Now DeJong hits a grand slam.

Chief Roundup 08-20-2022 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16421550)
Hicks sucks so bad

I don't care for several pitchers such as Hicks, Gallegos, and Pallante. They can all suck so damn bad. I know there are others. I have seen them pitch ok also, but I cringe every time they come in.

ChiefsCountry 08-20-2022 09:45 PM

Goldschmidt just hit a 3 run dong

bdj23 08-20-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16421591)
Goldschmidt just hit a 3 run dong

Give that man his MVP

Jewish Rabbi 08-20-2022 09:55 PM

Give me his dong

BigRedChief 08-20-2022 10:03 PM

Pujols can get to 700. 5 weeks to get 7? Why not?

oldandslow 08-21-2022 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16421605)
Pujols can get to 700. 5 weeks to get 7? Why not?

My hope is 697.

Chief Roundup 08-21-2022 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 16421755)
My hope is 697.

Why don't you want him to get 700?

raybec 4 08-21-2022 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16421835)
Why don't you want him to get 700?

700 would be fantastic, but honestly as long as he passes that ****stick A-Rod I'll be ecstatic.

kcpasco 08-21-2022 08:25 AM

Smashing lefties like this I’ll bring him back for another year.

BigRedChief 08-21-2022 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 16421847)
Smashing lefties like this I’ll bring him back for another year.

No, please no.

We avoided having to witness Pujols embarrass himself this year. We were able to witness Pujols back in a Cardinals uniform as a "real" contributor to a playoff team, not a publicity stunt to sell tickets. At times it was 2005 again. He murdered some pitch's just like he did off Lidge. Lets take the win.

And after this season, I'd be so disappointed if he doesn't go into the HOF as a Cardinal.

VAChief 08-21-2022 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16421861)
No, please no.

We avoided having to witness Pujols embarrass himself this year. We were able to witness Pujols back in a Cardinals uniform as a "real" contributor to a playoff team, not a publicity stunt to sell tickets. At times it was 2005 again. He murdered some pitch's just like he did off Lidge. Lets take the win.

And after this season, I'd be so disappointed if he doesn't go into the HOF as a Cardinal.

Agreed, no way he can top this…go out on a high note.

VAChief 08-21-2022 06:06 PM

Sweep! Now go take at least 3 from the baby bears.

bdj23 08-22-2022 07:42 PM

693

BigRedChief 08-22-2022 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16424011)
693

with 42 games left to get to 700. He’s got a shot.

**** that cheating Bonds and his blown up head due to steroids. There will be only Aaron and the Babe in front of him.

DJ's left nut 08-22-2022 08:24 PM

Well that's a fun game.

Beating the Cubs is always a good time, but a 1-0 shutout with the Yankee ex-pat on the bump and Pujols providing the only run of the game is just a nice little wrinkle.

I'm fairly certain Pujols could hit lefties at 47 at this point. These are zero effort swings and it's clear the hands are still following the eyes just fine.

Halfcan 08-22-2022 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16421861)
No, please no.

We avoided having to witness Pujols embarrass himself this year. We were able to witness Pujols back in a Cardinals uniform as a "real" contributor to a playoff team, not a publicity stunt to sell tickets. At times it was 2005 again. He murdered some pitch's just like he did off Lidge. Lets take the win.

And after this season, I'd be so disappointed if he doesn't go into the HOF as a Cardinal.

What would a Pujols World Series ring be worth if he hits 700. It is the real deal he gave to a family member, who then pawned it at my Dads shop.

Jewish Rabbi 08-22-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16424092)
What would a Pujols World Series ring be worth if he hits 700. It is the real deal he gave to a family member, who then pawned it at my Dads shop.

I find it very hard to believe he gave away one of his World Series rings.

BigRedChief 08-22-2022 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16424092)
What would a Pujols World Series ring be worth if he hits 700. It is the real deal he gave to a family member, who then pawned it at my Dads shop.

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16424097)
I find it very hard to believe he gave away one of his World Series rings.

Aw come on, you can troll better than that Halfcan.

oldandslow 08-22-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16424086)
Well that's a fun game.

Beating the Cubs is always a good time, but a 1-0 shutout with the Yankee ex-pat on the bump and Pujols providing the only run of the game is just a nice little wrinkle.

I'm fairly certain Pujols could hit lefties at 47 at this point. These are zero effort swings and it's clear the hands are still following the eyes just fine.

DJ

He may be 47 now. lol

BigRedChief 08-22-2022 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 16424157)
DJ

He may be 47 now. lol

maybe. Maybe he’s 50 too. Still crushing baseballs at 109 MPH off the bat.

Pepe Silvia 08-22-2022 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16424085)
with 42 games left to get to 700. He’s got a shot.

**** that cheating Bonds and his blown up head due to steroids. There will be only Aaron and the Babe in front of him.

F*** his gay earring too.

BigRedChief 08-23-2022 12:27 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Montgomery since being traded to the Cardinals: <br><br>• 4-0 (4 starts)<br>• 0.35 ERA<br>• 0.62 WHIP<br>• 24 K (25.2 IP)<br>• CGSO <a href="https://t.co/Zthw9wbJwf">pic.twitter.com/Zthw9wbJwf</a></p>&mdash; B/R Walk-Off (@BRWalkoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRWalkoff/status/1561916840586055681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRedChief 08-23-2022 10:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Albert Pujols&#39; last 5 games:<br>9-for-16<br>5 HR<br>11 RBI<br>Slash: .563/.611/.1500<br><br>Appreciate greatness. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cardinals</a> <a href="https://t.co/1hMrYEbHMt">pic.twitter.com/1hMrYEbHMt</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1561693417691680768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAChief 08-23-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16424295)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Montgomery since being traded to the Cardinals: <br><br>• 4-0 (4 starts)<br>• 0.35 ERA<br>• 0.62 WHIP<br>• 24 K (25.2 IP)<br>• CGSO <a href="https://t.co/Zthw9wbJwf">pic.twitter.com/Zthw9wbJwf</a></p>&mdash; B/R Walk-Off (@BRWalkoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRWalkoff/status/1561916840586055681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smaller sample size, but starting to get a modern day John Tudor vibe.

seclark 08-23-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 16424933)
Smaller sample size, but starting to get a modern day John Tudor vibe.

Don’t want to jinx, but I was thinking the same thing
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bdj23 08-23-2022 07:01 PM

How do these guys all just up and forget how to hit all the time like this?!?!

Marcellus 08-23-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16425434)
How do these guys all just up and forget how to hit all the time like this?!?!

Meh its baseball. They really screwed the pooch early game today leaving 11 on base though.

Starting to heat up maybe.

And just like that 2 HR and a 3 run lead in the 4th.

BigRedChief 08-24-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16425434)
How do these guys all just up and forget how to hit all the time like this?!?!

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16425439)
Meh its baseball. They really screwed the pooch early game today leaving 11 on base though.

Starting to heat up maybe.

And just like that 2 HR and a 3 run lead in the 4th.

Yeah 1 run in 18 innings when we are rolling is a weird thing that happens in baseball from time to time. Hopefully back on track now. Need 4/5 from the Cubs.

VAChief 08-24-2022 08:40 AM

Prior to the trade deadline in July, 2011 I met my brother (who lives in St. Louis) in Cincinnati to catch a Cards game there (they won). Shortly after the Cards traded away a young CFer for pitching help. Of course we all know the Cards eventually went on a late season streak to get the WC and eventually win the World Series.

This past July, I met my brother in Cincinnati to catch a game just prior to the trade deadline (it was the only game they won that weekend). Later they traded away a young CFer for pitching help.

Just saying...

bdj23 08-24-2022 04:41 PM

Anyone ever go to a baseball game by themselves? This weekend is probably my last opportunity to make it to STL to bid Albert farewell.

But man tickets and hotels are expensive as all hell. Plus a 4 hour car ride by myself sounds about as boring as boring can be.

BigRedChief 08-24-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16426949)
Anyone ever go to a baseball game by themselves? This weekend is probably my last opportunity to make it to STL to bid Albert farewell.

But man tickets and hotels are expensive as all hell. Plus a 4 hour car ride by myself sounds about as boring as boring can be.

Spring training games only. I got to see him and the team will a WS live. Watch him
Hit a grand slam off the Cubs.

But, you should go. May see a positive moment that you can say, I was there.

bdj23 08-24-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16426963)
Spring training games only. I got to see him and the team will a WS live. Watch him
Hit a grand slam off the Cubs.

But, you should go. May see a positive moment that you can say, I was there.

I wish my little one was older, I'd take her in a heartbeat, but a late August baseball game isn't really the best place for a 18 month old.

Every hotel in downtown STL is north of $300 for the night. I know I'm paying a premium for a good series, a Saturday game, and a farewell tour but it's looking like it will run me $600+ to make all the arrangements.

I've seen Albert play many times.

I'm still pissed the KC series was in April during shitty weather


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