The Packers are like the Patriots. For decades they feasted on a weak division - the Lions were almost always horrible, the Bears were generally horrible, and the Vikings were usually average at best. Dogshit divisions that never seem to improve make for a great annual playoff launching pad.

Of course, unlike the Patriots, once they got there they crapped themselves, 28 times out of 30. Ouch.

Both things are true, apparently he was struggling to go down the steps and into the locker room, but he was also walking around on the field after the game.

I don't think he'd play if the game were this week, but people are underestimating what an extra week can do.

The Bengals offense was not as healthy as the Eagles offense, which is the challenge for the Chiefs defense. Obviously the KC offense had major injury problems going on. Gotta hope they'll be in better shape for the next game.

The Bengals offense might not be as healthy, but it still scared me more.

It's kind of odd how you went from blowing smoke up the Bengals ass all week to now downplaying them to blow smoke up the Eagles ass.

The Eagles offense is really good. Just different than the Bengals.

I would imagine it helps having played the Ravens so much as it's similar style wise.

Good chunk of that Jaguars & Eagles game was played in heavy rain, which probably helped Philly's defense. And I think we can all agree Trevor Lawrence was a much better player in the later part of the season than he was in that Week 4 game.

I respect the hell out of both Cincy & Philly. They're both very good teams on both sides of the ball. Are we supposed to pretend the Bengals didn't have a bunch of starting OL guys missing? If we are going that path, then we don't get to complain about KC missing a bunch of starting OL guys in the Tampa Super Bowl.

Eagles offense is unquestionably healthier than the Bengals offense, so we will see how much impact that might have on the success of the KC defense in slowing them down. Flip side is hopefully the Chiefs offense is also much healthier than last game. That would be pretty damn helpful in this game.

No, I'm just pointing out that your tune has changed a whole lot since last week, and you knew their OL was banged up going into the game.

I didn’t expect it to have much impact based on Cincy’s performance against Buffalo and the fact Joe Burrow gets rid of the ball super quick, perhaps quicker than any QB in football. In the 2022 regular season game, KC got essentially zero pressure on him.

Well that's kind of silly. The Bills don't have the horses we have up front AND they were playing in snow, AND they were playing soft zones on the backend. That's a recipe for disaster. It was an awful gameplan based on the circumstances.

Had i seen you write that shit i woulda given you a hard time too.

Burrow’s super quick release was the main thing I was thinking about, not the Buffalo game. I remember in 2021, people kept saying Cincy has the worst OL in the league. And yet KC got zero pressure on him in those 2 games.

Burrow’s super quick release mixed with those weapons is very tough to stop. Chiefs secondary played great on Sunday and gave the DL a chance to get some pressure on Burrow. Would they have gotten to him with a healthy OL? Not sure. Just like I am not sure Tampa would have the success they did against Mahomes when his OL got wiped out.

We got pressure in the 2021 regular season game. Jones had at least one sack.

The playoff game wasn't great. And when we did get pressure we whiffed.

They scored 34 in that game. Pressure, coverage, & tackling all seemed much stronger in the most recent game.

Just rewatched the highlights of last year's game against the Bills. Yes, the Eagles are a complete team, but let's get real -- they are not as good as last year's Bills team. We should have put the Bills away earlier, it shouldn't have come down to last minute.

If the Mahomes has full mobility, and we have most receivers back close to full effectiveness (yeah, a real "if), we will outscore the Eagles.

They scored 30 but they scored a TD that didn’t matter. It was 42-23 with less than 20 seconds left when they scored that last TD

Look you gaping ****img pussy hole. What do you not ducking understand? Your shitty ass team got smacked in the mouth repeatedly…. I’m talking a mother ****ing tea bagging!! They had the ball with the game tied and 2 minutes left. Chiefs were missing their best/most tenured cb for the whole game. There were rookies running the defensive backfield, you had Joey Bridesmaid, Chase, and Tee and still couldn’t ****ing get into FG range. There were no ****ing penalties that kept your inept offense from moving the ball. They just got outplayed by some rookies, and outcoached by Spags. Then you gave Mahomes the ball back with time left on the clock….. and cock breath, that’s a fatal error that many have suffered from. Down Juju, Toney, Hardman, and Patrick on one good wheel still went down the field on you quickly. It’s not KC’s fault that you have a reeruned player who thought trying to injure Mahomes in that instant was his best play at winning. Do you think the player who was yelling at your special needs player heading into the locker room was blaming the refs??

I say this with the utmost hope that you will understand and do what I’m asking of you……


Shut yo mouth, and know yo role. YOU JABRONI! Now kindly **** off! Bitch!

Also, mods…. How long you gonna let this turd shit in all of our threads?

They remind me alot of the 9ers front 4 we played in the super bowl a few years ago Andy's play calling was so damn good that game. I think Pacheco & Kelce would feast on these guys

Are you talking about Philly? I was referring to the Cincy 2021 game, not Philly.

Statistically it’s a pretty good comp.

2019 49ers:

Passing Yards Allowed - 2707
Net Yards Per Attempt - 4.8
Rushing Yards Allowed - 1802
Yards Per Carry - 4.5

2022 Eagles:

Passing Yards Allowed - 3057
Net Yards Per Attempt - 4.9
Rushing Yards Allowed - 2068
Yards Per Carry - 4.6

Eagles obviously tallied more sacks, the 49ers had a higher Pressure % and Hurry %, despite blitzing less.

At a quick glance, it also looks like the 49ers would’ve played against better QBs during their regular season.

Let’s see how Jalen Hurts performs in the big ones. He suited up for 3 National Championship games in college which is impressive. He went 16/41 for 152 yards and 1 TD in those games COMBINED and the only win came when he was benched after going 3-8 for 21 yards in his sophomore season. Stack the ****ing box and see if he’s learned to throw the ball.

Especially if he’s still dealing with an injury.

Since returning, he’s thrown for 504 yards, 2 TDs, and 1 pick in 3 games.

He’s also only ran for 86 yards on 29 carries. Average of 2.9 yards per compared to 4.9 yards per before his injury.

It looks like he's going to be more hindered by injury than Mahomes. Has not been accurate since returning and openly admitted to pain when throwing. I think their best hope is to try to steamroll us in the run game and shorten the game. Never worked against Mahomes.

Can’t say never. The Colts game in 2019 was one of the most frustrating things I’ve ever seen. That was very early on in the Spags tenure, though and he obviously corrected the defense by the time the postseason rolled around that year. I just don’t see us getting gashed in the run game like we used to. Veach made it a huge point of emphasis to draft solid tacklers in the draft and I think this defense has done a much better job at it this season obviously. Went from giving up the 21st most rushing yards in the league to the 8th this season. I think Willie Gay’s health will have a big impact on this game. He’s obviously our best QB spy. Love that him and AJ Brown grew up together and won a high school state championship together. These teams are linked together in a lot of ways.

Spags is going to draw and quarter this overrated ****.

Tie a rope to each of his limbs and attach the other ends to Jones, Dunlap, Saunders and Clark.

When Spags took down the undefeated 2007 Patriots, it happened in Arizona’s stadium. Obviously the KC defense and offense both played very well in Arizona’s stadium to begin this season. Let’s hope those good Arizona vibes from the past can help the KC players & coaches in the upcoming game.

Yeah Clayster!!!!

We’re not losing to Jalen ****ing Hurts!!!!!

Andy...
 

Andy Reid was the man here. He brought us back from some darker times back into the light. He still has his stamp on this current team with BG, Fletcher, Kelce and Lane. Andy was a master at times and befuddling at others.
Stubborness to run the ball and clock management were his achilles heel. Andy also struggled in the big games, going 1-4 in NFCCGs, favored in all but one. We were happy for the success he has had in KC with finally winning a SB. Back here we are hoping his old familiar ways come to the forefront. Go Birds!

Yeah despite some generally good natured fan smack talk, it's hard for there to be any bad blood here. Both cities love and respect Andy. Each has a Kelce and they are super close. Sirianni used to be a coach here, etc. Should be a great matchup.

Andy has improved in the big games here (3-2 AFCCG and 1-1 SB). He still hates to run but his clock management has not really been an issue the last 5 years because honestly, Mahomes is so ****ing good it doesn't matter how much time he has left on the clock. Do you know in the history of the NFL, there are a bunch of non Mahomes QBs historically that are tied for second place with 1 time in situations where they get the ball in a playoff game with under a minute left and their team tied/trailing and they lead a drive to tie or win?


Mahomes has done it 3 times in 5 seasons.

This man had Tom Brady and Joe Burrow in HELL. No chance he doesn’t have something ready for Jalen Hurts ass

No bad blood here. To lose a SB stinks but at least it would be to one of our own.

Mahomes is like no other QB that has come before him. The baseball influence has served him quite well. The escapability and arm IQ are Marvel like. I'd be lying if I said he doesn't scare me in this game.

So what did the Colts due defensively this year to hold the KC O in check?

Not really worried about the defense. Spags has those guys locked in. They will give up 20-23 points, which is exactly what they are built to do. Mahomes, if given time, will do work. I don't care if his WR's are dudes from CP. This is a Veach full circle game. We lost the Bucs SB due to not having an offensive line. Veach made it his mission to reload and rebuild that unit. If they can hold up against the Eagles pass rush, we are winning the Super Bowl.

Not much, actually. That was a weird outlier game. Kelce dropped a TD that he catches 99.9 out of a hundred times, our back up kicker (Butker was hurt) missed an easy FG and then we ran a fake FG that didn't work. Mahomes wasn't particularly good that day. It was the epitome of what you will see and hear a lot of if you pay attention to fans and media who cover the Chiefs. Most of the time, when the Chiefs lose, it's more about what they don't do versus what the other team does do. I don't mean that in the general sense that in every loss you can point to a few things you could've done differently, I mean that most of the Chiefs losses are pretty full of mistakes that they don't usually make. If you add the 4 points from the Kelce drop, plus the missed FG plus add 3 for the FG we would've had if Butker had been in, we score 26 points that day vs the Colts.

Not sure it’s as much what the Colts did as it was the Chiefs playing down to an opponent. They are notorious for that which is why they have a lot of close games against bottom feeders.

We also had this twat throw a flag on Chris Jones after his game ending 4th down sack, giving the Colts a new set of downs. For what reason? CJ said something to Matt Ryan. Seriously, that was the reason. FTR this is the same douchenozzle ref that chased down Bosa and then flagged him for something HE said. This power-tripping ****tard flags for language. What a ****ing Karen.

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Mahomes missed Scantling on a wide open bomb, Kelce dropped a easy TD, missed chip shot FG then passed on 1 to fail a fake FG. 20 points left off the board just on those plays

I find it a little surprising how little the Eagles throw to their running backs.

Gainwell and Sanders only combined for about 250 yards on 43 catches for the year.

There’s really very literal mystery about where they want to throw the ball.

Wouldn't that draw a flag for holding though?

Thanks for the feedback. This game cannot get here fast enough. I feel Jalen is going to be the X factor. I am really not sure which Jalen is going to be there and if the enormity of this game is going to overly hype him. Also, since the shoulder, the deep ball is a bit off which had been tops in the league this year. Go Birds!

Don’t forget to mention that we actually won that game until Chris Jones said something mean in a football game and the referee took great offense to it. It’s the reason I’ve been laughing at everyone who tries to bring up bad refereeing this week but can’t point to 1 significant call that affected the outcome of the game. That 1 unsportsmanlike taunting penalty literally cost us the game.

I agree on the “mean words” flag and it was BS. But KC is the better team and it never should have come down to that call. The Colts were missing their best defender and KC still did not score like they could have.

Orlando Brown was also operating on a bad wheel after hurting his knee in Arizona and got whipped repeatedly by Ngakuoe.

Skyy Moore dropped a punt to give the Colts first and goal at the 4.

Chiefs missed a FG and ran a fake instead of a FG to leave six more points out there.

Without a healthy and reliable kicker, it's a typical ho-hum Chiefs 23-20 win against a bad team.

Take out the Moore fumble or the Kelce drop, and it's 23-13 or 27-20.

Yep, all true. Just pointing out that despite our mediocre/poor play, "playing down to lesser competition", we had it won until "yellow hanky Karen" decided to ask for a manager.

This is a good time...From the EMBs...

Eagles Hire Andy

Andy brings on Doug to be QB

Eagles Fire Andy

Chiefs Hire Andy

Andy Fires Sirianni

Andy hires Doug

Eagles Hire Doug (From Andy's Recommendation)

Doug brings on Frank Reich

Eagles Win First Super Bowl

Frank Reich is hired by the Colts

Frank Hires Sirianni

Andy Wins First Super Bowl

Andy Goes to back to back Super Bowls

Eagles Fire Doug

Eagles Hire Sirianni (Frank's Recommendation)

Sirianni Faces Andy Reid in the Super Bowl

Their running game is just so effective. It really does a ton to open up their downfield passing attack.

I do wonder if playing so many bad QBs this year allowed them to rely on the run game more.

They’ve been able to bring a sword to a knife fight all year.

The Super Bowl is a gun fight though. Will the sword be as effective?

What are Eagles fans saying about this game?

Not if KC jumps out to a big lead. That’s a team that benefits greatly from being ahead. They can bludgeon a team with their ground game and pin their ears back on defense as the other team has to pass to play catch up. I would be shocked if they don’t continue that, especially if Hurts isn’t 100% by the game.

The Eagles are a team that could be down 17-3 and they'd still be handing off.

in addition, Skyye Moore muffed like 2 or 3 punts that day. It was an early season game and this team was still finding itself. The offense only had 1 WR that was not a new player. Defense was(is) full of rookies.

Edit: And the Chiefs had the game won when they stopped the Colts on 4th down only to get flagged by some idiot ref for Chris Jones saying something mean to the QB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“He’s in for a free ride. You and I could coach this team”<br><br>Looks like we have some more to talk about with Zach Pascal tonight <a href="https://t.co/sFz7JCKscG">pic.twitter.com/sFz7JCKscG</a></p>&mdash; Chris Infante (@Infante54) <a href="https://twitter.com/Infante54/status/1621140423417933833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Giants safety literally says anyone could coach the Eagles.

Bring it.

I mean that in the sense that I don't think they can play a game where Hurts has to pass 40 times. It's why being ahead is important, they haven't had to change what they do much at all.

His playoff stats, if I were an Eagles fan, are scary. He's barely had to pass the ball at all.

The Eagles really can't afford to get into a shootout.

He was terrible vs the 49ers... people may look at his 121 yards passing and think that he didn't need to pass much since the Eagles were up big.

But that was a close game through about three quarters and Hurts was bad.

If the Chiefs wins and Mahomes is the MVP, the new hater narrative will be really funny.

“Well yeah, Mahomes has won 2 MVPs, 2 Super Bowls, and 2 Super Bowl MVPs, but look at the QBs he’s played in the Super Bowl. The only time he played a Hall of Famer he got blown out. Wake me up when he beats an elite QB in the Super Bowl.”

If we win, you’ll see the narrative immediately diminish Hurts. He’ll be a bum and Mahomes wouldn’t have beat a better QB than him.

Yeah. It's like people don't even think about how insulting that is to HURTS, not Mahomes.

We are a calm confident for the most part but not blind to the tall task that sits in front of them. Make no bones about it, the Eagles are also a really good team and are here because of that. This is the most complete team in my lifetime. We may have a classic in the making.

The Eagles are a wagon right now and also much healthier than the Chiefs. I think Eagles win comfortably but KC has the better QB even if he is limping so nothing is guaranteed. I really don't want a whole year of Iggles fans chirping.

If the Chiefs get a 10-14 point lead at any point, it’s over.

Brady won 7 SBs and even he has critics. There's nothing Mahomes can accomplish that makes him bulletproof from criticism. You can't please everyone.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

A “wagon” vs Daniel Jones and the 49ers 5th string QB.

LMAO

Enjoy the ride. Keep the haters on mute.

No. All season.

All season against mostly shitty QB’s… the gift of playing in the NFC, a.k.a. the JV QB Conference.

And they still played absolutely nobody "all season".

Dak, Rodgers, and Goff are the best QBs/offenses they played all year and they all dropped 30+ on their ass with the Cowboys dropping 40.

Per usual, you're absolutely clueless.

I’d agree with this.

That’s why I think we really want to kick to start. Let Hurts go out there on the first possession and be a little jumpy. Could be a quick 3 and out if he doesn’t settle down immediately.

We are quite literally playing one of the best rushing teams in NFL history in the Eagles. Our guys better be ready to get off blocks, tackle, and play assignment sound.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 2022 Eagles offense recorded the 5th highest rushing success rate since the 2002 season and the highest since the 2017 Patriots.<br><br>Sidebar: good lord the run game of those early-2000s Chiefs teams <a href="https://t.co/zZm7Mj3mSZ">pic.twitter.com/zZm7Mj3mSZ</a></p>&mdash; Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1618361973359665154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Eagles fans underestimating the significance of their team playing a JV schedule of opposing QB’s all season.

That allowed them to hide Hurts’ liability as a passer since they were able to mostly play with leads which also allowed their pass rush to tee off on shitty QB’s (and inflate their sack #’s).

Looks like the 2006 Colts are the only Super Bowl winner on the list.

Also, how is this calculated? Anyone know?

I believe it's an 'ahead of the sticks' analysis.

Runs that gain 4+ yards or get a 1st down qualify.

EDIT: Not quite; it IS an ahead of the sticks analysis, but it's percentage based:

40% of the yards needed to gain a 1st on 1st down.
60% of the yards needed to gain a 1st on 2nd downs.
100% of the yards needed to gain a 1st down on 3rd or 4th downs.

Not a bad little metric, really.

Gotcha. That’s interesting.

From what the stats show, they don’t break many long ones but they’re pretty consistent.

They were 2nd in rushing first downs, but “only” averaged 4.6 yards per carry (19th in the league). 17 runs of 20+ (tied for 7th in the league), but only 2 runs of 40+.

So basically a lot of consistent pretty good runs. Not many bad carries. Not many home runs.

Agree that they are a very good team and deserve to be here. What weaknesses do Eagles fans think they will exploit in order to win?

Some of those more drilled down stats can be pretty fascinating.

Not long ago someone came up with a stat that tracked how frequently a team got at least one first down on a possession. It tracked really well with the best teams in the league.

It was essentially saying "hey, these squads just don't have many 3 and outs) and while that doesn't necessarily guarantee any points or even speak to any yards past the first 10, it does suggest a team that should typically win ToP and can move the ball in a variety of different ways/circumstances.

My guess is that it's all about the pressure on Mahomes. Their strength is defensive line and our OTs aren't the greatest. Add in that Mahomes isn't 100% to move around like he does for the entire game....and that's what they're aiming to do.

On the offensive side, it's probably hammer the run and get the ball to Brown. Goedert isn't a slouch either.

That makes sense and if I was an Eagle’s fan I would probably be thinking along those lines. They might see something that we are missing though.

What were the odds?

It was so obvious what he was up to. Last week the Bengals were some powerhouse that Mahomes and his rag-tag group of misfits couldn't hope to beat. Now they were just meh.

He's not a Chiefs fan - he's a Mahomes fan. So it behooves him to pre-emptively shift blame to anything NOT Mahomes going into the games. The easiest way to do that is to just say the rest of the team can't handle all the [insert opponent awesomeness] that they're going to run into.

It's fairly lame.