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RunKC 01-23-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17359229)
I know everyone says "he's chasing Brady" but man, I'm just not.

I'm chasing Montana. Brady/Belichick was so damn unique and lasted for so long. Mahomes isn't going to get 20 years with Reid. And in passing leagues with penalties now being so critical in the outcomes, results are more random than ever.

I just don't see 7 as a reasonable target. 5 to beat Montana - I'm in. But man, it took so much for 7 to happen for Brady, including cherry picking to get that 7th (and getting the refs in his pocket in the process). Hell, it took rank stupidity by Kyle Shanahan to get Brady his 6th.

Then again, it took a little stupidity by Shanahan to get Mahomes his 1st.

It's just soooooo haaaaaard to keep a good roster when you have a guy making Mahomes money on your cap. Brady's billionaire wife (and under the table arrangements with Kraft) were worth a great player every season for their roster because he was never being paid what he could've earned. He wasn't typically close.

Mahomes should win 4. I think that's a reasonable expectation at this point in his career. But **** fellas, 7 is a LOT. Blows my mind that he managed that while going 10 seasons between 3 and 4.

Yeah I tend to agree.

It's crazy to me that he has almost wrapped up records to make him 2nd all time.

8 TD's from 2nd in all time postseason passing TD's
4 wins from 2nd all time in postseason wins

He's gonna break about all of Tom's postseason records. I think even winning 4 would put him on the argument but 5 would really solidify it.

Of course it depends on who the coach is when Andy inevitably retires

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-23-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17359266)
Baltimore should be the favorite. Hard to justify why KC being the favorites.

Baltimore has an elite defense, they had the best record in football this year, beat a lot of very good teams, is at home, has a very good offense, has the soon to be league MVP and just dominated their first playoff opponent (who embarrassed the Browns a week prior).

The fact that they are only like 3 to 3.5 point favorites speaks a ton about what Vegas thinks of KC. In this respect I think Wright is incorrect.

Also, after 5 straight AFC Championship games before this year, the Chiefs really got complacent during the regular season. Folks are bringing up the records against winning teams. That's fine, but every game we played this year was in a premium media time slot and teams played against us like it was their Superbowl. We just can't get up every week like that. 5 of our 6 losses were by one score or less and self inflicted mistakes were usually the reason for the L. Our one loss by more than one score was to Denver, when it was really their Superbowl to the extreme, and Mahomes couldn't even participate in meetings or practices Friday on with the flu, and we had unexplicable 4 turnovers. We are playoff focused now, and if we don't make mistakes, it's going to be a tall task for Baltimore. If we make mistakes, we will most likely lose because Baltimore is very well coached. My goal is to be close or up in the 3rd Quarter and the pressure will build immensely on the Ravens.

DRM08 01-23-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17359229)
I know everyone says "he's chasing Brady" but man, I'm just not.

I'm chasing Montana. Brady/Belichick was so damn unique and lasted for so long. Mahomes isn't going to get 20 years with Reid. And in passing leagues with penalties now being so critical in the outcomes, results are more random than ever.

I just don't see 7 as a reasonable target. 5 to beat Montana - I'm in. But man, it took so much for 7 to happen for Brady, including cherry picking to get that 7th (and getting the refs in his pocket in the process). Hell, it took rank stupidity by Kyle Shanahan to get Brady his 6th.

Then again, it took a little stupidity by Shanahan to get Mahomes his 1st.

It's just soooooo haaaaaard to keep a good roster when you have a guy making Mahomes money on your cap. Brady's billionaire wife (and under the table arrangements with Kraft) were worth a great player every season for their roster because he was never being paid what he could've earned. He wasn't typically close.

Mahomes should win 4. I think that's a reasonable expectation at this point in his career. But **** fellas, 7 is a LOT. Blows my mind that he managed that while going 10 seasons between 3 and 4.

Agreed. Brady is uncatchable. The 2 losses to him in the Playoffs hurt. But he’s a very lucky guy. Dee Ford and the Overtime rule that no longer exists, plus the Chiefs OL being wiped out in the 2nd game helped make a difference in these matchups.

I would love to see 4 rings for Mahomes & Andy. If they get there, he is clear cut the #2 guy in the GOAT list. He never had shutdown defenses helping him like Montana or Bradshaw or Brady or Aikman. The salary cap has made his job much tougher than it was for Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman. He is gonna end up way above Montana/Bradshaw/Aikman in Playoff wins even if he does not catch them in ring totals. Patrick is only 3 wins short of tying Montana for 2nd All-Time in Playoff wins, which is insane for a 28 year old kid. And nobody can accuse him of being carried by his defense to Playoff wins, like the washed up Peyton Manning in 2015.

The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman.

tredadda 01-23-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17359275)
You can tell how much Mahomes and the team love getting the chance to play the underdog.

They've so rarely gotten to do it that it fires them up like crazy every time it happens.

I truly think that they get bored during the regular season being the favorite all the time and that's a big reason for some of the lapses in focus.

I wonder how much fatigue plays into this as well during the regular season. Mahomes is about to play in his 17th playoff game. That's an entire additional season for him/Kelce/Jones, and some of the others that have been on the team for a bit. The playoffs are a different animal to get up for, but regular season games can potentially create lapses.

comochiefsfan 01-23-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359284)
Agreed. Brady is uncatchable. The 2 losses to him in the Playoffs hurt. But he’s a very lucky guy. Dee Ford and the Overtime rule that no longer exists, plus the Chiefs OL being wiped out in the 2nd game helped make a difference in these matchups.

I would love to see 4 rings for Mahomes & Andy. If they get there, he is clear cut the #2 guy in the GOAT list. He never had shutdown defenses helping him like Montana or Bradshaw or Brady or Aikman. The salary cap has made his job much tougher than it was for Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman. He is gonna end up way above Montana/Bradshaw/Aikman in Playoff wins even if he does not catch them in ring totals. Patrick is only 3 wins short of tying Montana for 2nd All-Time in Playoff wins, which is insane for a 28 year old kid. And nobody can accuse him of being carried by his defense to Playoff wins, like the washed up Petyon Manning in 2015.

The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman.

Troy Aikman is insecure because deep down he knows he wouldn't have sniffed the Hall of Fame had he not been in a perfect situation in Dallas.

He's supremely jealous of genuinely great QBs like Patrick because it hurts his fragile ego.

tredadda 01-23-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359284)
Agreed. Brady is uncatchable. The 2 losses to him in the Playoffs hurt. But he’s a very lucky guy. Dee Ford and the Overtime rule that no longer exists, plus the Chiefs OL being wiped out in the 2nd game helped make a difference in these matchups.

I would love to see 4 rings for Mahomes & Andy. If they get there, he is clear cut the #2 guy in the GOAT list. He never had shutdown defenses helping him like Montana or Bradshaw or Brady or Aikman. The salary cap has made his job much tougher than it was for Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman. He is gonna end up way above Montana/Bradshaw/Aikman in Playoff wins even if he does not catch them in ring totals. Patrick is only 3 wins short of tying Montana for 2nd All-Time in Playoff wins, which is insane for a 28 year old kid. And nobody can accuse him of being carried by his defense to Playoff wins, like the washed up Petyon Manning in 2015.

The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman.

Realistically a large number of Brady's records will never be broken. Outside of the year Pollard took him out in game 1 (2008 season I believe), he has been stunningly healthy. That's why his numbers might never be caught and 7 rings is probably uncatchable as well. Mahomes can still catch and pass everyone else relatively easily though.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2024 04:26 PM

I know he’s had a good career, but Kyle Van Noy starts at EDGE for Baltimore?! And Clowney, although a career year, on the other side?

Mahomes hasn’t been sacked in his last three playoff games as it is.

DRM08 01-23-2024 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17359278)
And Carrol/Wilson for #5 and Dee Ford for #4.

What Brady/Belechick accomplished together may never be broken, especially in a salary cap era. As you mentioned, so many things had to go just right to get what they had.

How about the Tuck Rule? That was absolutely a fumble and he deserved to lose in the snow to the Raiders. If Tom Brady was born 15 years later, he would not have benefited from this short-lived rule. None of the historically great QB's other than Brady have benefited from this rule, which only existed from 1999 to 2013.

The Overtime rule in the Dee Ford game no longer exists as well. Brady has been a super lucky dude on this kind of stuff. Chiefs entire OL got wiped out late in the season, plus Andy's son had the horrible car wreck right before the Super Bowl game to create a massive distraction for the team. Pete Carroll's brain fart on the goal line. It's unbelievable how fortunate Brady has been when you think about it.

Bearcat 01-23-2024 04:30 PM

I might be in the minority, but I really don't care where he lands in the GOAT argument, because it'll always be just that... an argument.

Everyone knows what we say about Brady.. all the stats, Super Bowls, longevity, etc; well, he's a cheater and got really lucky 5 times. LMAO

It'll be the same for Mahomes.... hell, it already is. HOF coach, HOF WR for a few years, HOF TE for his entire career so far, haters will focus on the roughing and defensive holding calls last year before they look at Dee Ford.

Unless he does something Gretzky-like (and not everyone thinks he's the GOAT) and is so far ahead of all other players it's just plain ridiculous, people will argue until the end of time... so who ****ing cares.

He's on our team and we get to watch him for hopefully many more years, and he'll go down as the greatest of all time we've watched & gave a siht about (at least until the next one comes along).

He's our GOAT, damnit.

Jerm 01-23-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359296)
How about the Tuck Rule? That was absolutely a fumble and he deserved to lose in the snow to the Raiders. If Tom Brady was born 15 years later, he would not have benefited from this short-lived rule. None of the historically great QB's other than Brady have benefited from this rule, which only existed from 1999 to 2013.

The Overtime rule in the Dee Ford game no longer exists as well. Brady has been a super lucky dude on this kind of stuff. Chiefs entire OL got wiped out late in the season, plus Andy's son had the horrible car wreck right before the Super Bowl game to create a massive distraction for the team. Pete Carroll's brain fart on the goal line. It's unbelievable how fortunate Brady has been when you think about it.

Think about Jon Kasay, one of the best kickers at that time, inexplicably booting the last kickoff in that Super Bowl out of bounds giving the Pats great field position....

You aren't wrong lol.

Pepe Silvia 01-23-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359284)
Agreed. Brady is uncatchable. The 2 losses to him in the Playoffs hurt. But he’s a very lucky guy. Dee Ford and the Overtime rule that no longer exists, plus the Chiefs OL being wiped out in the 2nd game helped make a difference in these matchups.

I would love to see 4 rings for Mahomes & Andy. If they get there, he is clear cut the #2 guy in the GOAT list. He never had shutdown defenses helping him like Montana or Bradshaw or Brady or Aikman. The salary cap has made his job much tougher than it was for Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman. He is gonna end up way above Montana/Bradshaw/Aikman in Playoff wins even if he does not catch them in ring totals. Patrick is only 3 wins short of tying Montana for 2nd All-Time in Playoff wins, which is insane for a 28 year old kid. And nobody can accuse him of being carried by his defense to Playoff wins, like the washed up Peyton Manning in 2015.

The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman.

That was f***** up. Terry Bradshaw talked mad shit on him before his first SB too.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2024 04:33 PM

Well, I did just see the stat that Mahomes has 66% of the playoff EPA Brady posted in 33% of the games.

Mahomes = 207.27 EPA in 16 playoff games
Brady = 329.68 EPA in 48 playoff games

So maybe he doesn’t need all that luck. ;)

Bearcat 01-23-2024 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17359283)
Also, after 5 straight AFC Championship games before this year, the Chiefs really got complacent during the regular season. Folks are bringing up the records against winning teams. That's fine, but every game we played this year was in a premium media time slot and teams played against us like it was their Superbowl. We just can't get up every week like that. 5 of our 6 losses were by one score or less and self inflicted mistakes were usually the reason for the L. Our one loss by more than one score was to Denver, when it was really their Superbowl to the extreme, and Mahomes couldn't even participate in meetings or practices Friday on with the flu, and we had unexplicable 4 turnovers. We are playoff focused now, and if we don't make mistakes, it's going to be a tall task for Baltimore. If we make mistakes, we will most likely lose because Baltimore is very well coached. My goal is to be close or up in the 3rd Quarter and the pressure will build immensely on the Ravens.

Definitely some complacency, and I think they were also trying to fit square pegs into round holes for much of the season, for one reason or another.... put Skyy and Toney out there to give them ample time to prove themselves, but to also save Rice for the playoffs. Give CEH a good amount of snaps for a couple months. I think they were more or less trying to force things for Mahomes in that regard and not just playing ball.

It was one long preseason and not many games you could point at to say, damn, they really wanted that one.

DJ's left nut 01-23-2024 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359268)
I'm sure I could come close to what Wright would say...
  • Playoff Mahomes vs playoff Lamar
  • 6th AFCCG in a row
  • Chiefs have been playing playoff games 3 of the past 4 weeks, Ravens took a couple weeks off and scrimmaged with the Texans last week
  • Chiefs just took out Josh Allen and logged their first road playoff victory while being pelted with snowballs, so no questions this week about being on the road
  • All the pressure is on the Ravens; not just for some damn respect and to get that monkey off their back of beating a worthy playoff opponent, but if they can't win with THIS team, in a year where they only have to face one of Mahomes/Allen/Burrow, and Stroud won't always be a rookie on an otherwise 4-win team.... when will they ever win one?

It was simpler than all that.

"We have Patrick Mahomes - they don't have Tom Brady..."

That was pretty much the extent of it. He threw in some stuff about their point differential coming against poor quarterbacks but it ain't like we exactly faced a murderers row in the 2nd half as we were puking on our shoes...

DRM08 01-23-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359302)
Well, I did just see the stat that Mahomes has 66% of the playoff EPA Brady posted in 33% of the games.

Mahomes = 207.27 EPA in 16 playoff games
Brady = 329.68 EPA in 48 playoff games

So maybe he doesn’t need all that luck. ;)

There are a number of stats with Patrick that are absolutely remarkable. You just provided one. The comeback stats while trailing by 7-10 points are unbelievable too. He's the only guy in history to have a winning record while trailing by 10+ points. As great as he was, Brady lost 60% of the time in that situation. Montana was similar to Brady. And this one is pretty staggering as well:

Playoff Record when Trailing by 7+ points

Mahomes 8-2 (80% win rate)
Brady 10-11 (48% win rate)
Montana 4-6 (40% win rate)
P. Manning 3-9 (25% win rate)

Patrick's sample size of 10 games is similar to Montana & Peyton, yet Patrick is absolutely smoking both of them. Montana was known as a super clutch dude with incredible comeback ability. He also had stronger defenses (historically great defenses) backing him with no salary cap to blow up the team.

O.city 01-23-2024 04:57 PM

The Ravens just got so hot coming down the stretch, kicking the shit out of good teams.

The Chiefs just shit down the stretch....


I was a bit shocked it opened at -3.5 but it quickly went the other way down to -3. I'd guess most of the sharps aren't in yet, so it may get back to -3.5

FloridaMan88 01-23-2024 04:58 PM

Andy’s been at his best with superior game plans vs supposedly great defensive teams the Chiefs have faced in the postseason in recent years.

Super Bowl vs the 49ers and Eagles… scored 31 points and 38 points respectively.

Buffalo in the Divisional Round two years ago… 42 points scored.

Andy is going to have a plan to protect Mahomes vs the Ravens pass rush.

DRM08 01-23-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17359334)
Andy’s been at his best with superior game plans vs supposedly great defensive teams the Chiefs have faced in the postseason in recent years.

Super Bowl vs the 49ers and Eagles… scored 31 points and 38 points respectively.

Buffalo in the Divisional Round two years ago… 42 points scored.

Andy is going to have a plan to protect Mahomes vs the Ravens pass rush.

No matter what Andy is planning, the OL has to be very physical. If they can kick ass, everything becomes a lot easier on the offensive side of the ball. I want to see a very effective run game with Pacheco, which can help slow down the Ravens pass rush and potentially open up some play action chances as well. It all starts with the OL. They have to play great. They cannot shit the bed here or Andy's plans will go to hell in a hurry, lol

DJ's left nut 01-23-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17359334)
Andy’s been at his best with superior game plans vs supposedly great defensive teams the Chiefs have faced in the postseason in recent years.

Super Bowl vs the 49ers and Eagles… scored 31 points and 38 points respectively.

Buffalo in the Divisional Round two years ago… 42 points scored.

Andy is going to have a plan to protect Mahomes vs the Ravens pass rush.

If Andy sees this game as the SB (with the NFC being the lesser conference), I could see him rolling out a big boy gameplan for it. Treating it like he has the SB in years past when he's willing to let everything fly.

The thing that makes me a little - just a little - nervous, is that Andy has an affinity for his former coaches. He seems to really respect Harbaugh. I know it's stupid and weird, but I really hope he doesn't try to play it tighter and 'more respectful' against a coach he has respect for.

Bloodless savage Andy is a whole lot of fun. And if he brings that gameplan to Baltimore, they're gonna have their hands full.

RunKC 01-23-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17359334)
Andy’s been at his best with superior game plans vs supposedly great defensive teams the Chiefs have faced in the postseason in recent years.

Super Bowl vs the 49ers and Eagles… scored 31 points and 38 points respectively.

Buffalo in the Divisional Round two years ago… 42 points scored.

Andy is going to have a plan to protect Mahomes vs the Ravens pass rush.

Mahomes has not been sacked or thrown an INT in his last 3 playoff games.

It's gonna come down to the OL on both teams. Whoever pass protects better will likely win.

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wazu 01-23-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17359341)
If Andy sees this game as the SB (with the NFC being the lesser conference), I could see him rolling out a big boy gameplan for it. Treating it like he has the SB in years past when he's willing to let everything fly.

The thing that makes me a little - just a little - nervous, is that Andy has an affinity for his former coaches. He seems to really respect Harbaugh. I know it's stupid and weird, but I really hope he doesn't try to play it tighter and 'more respectful' against a coach he has respect for.

Bloodless savage Andy is a whole lot of fun. And if he brings that gameplan to Baltimore, they're gonna have their hands full.

Is there any track record or numbers to support that Andy has ever "let up" against a coach out of respect? I assume he respected Belichick, but he unleashed plenty of killer gameplans against a great Patriots team. Would think he had a reasonable amount of respect for Kyle Shanahan but seems like we usually surprise with how well we play against the 49ers.

Thought about Arians, but we absolutely waxxed them in the regular season, and the Super Bowl was marred by the Britt Reid stuff so I wouldn't think respect had anything to do with that one.

philfree 01-23-2024 05:13 PM

Apparently we're supposed to fear the "Flock" according to the little cutie Ravens reporter girl on NFLN.

DJ's left nut 01-23-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17359353)
Is there any track record or numbers to support that Andy has ever "let up" against a coach out of respect? I assume he respected Belichick, but he unleashed plenty of killer gameplans against a great Patriots team. Would think he had a reasonable amount of respect for Kyle Shanahan but seems like we usually surprise with how well we play against the 49ers.

Thought about Arians, but we absolutely waxxed them in the regular season, and the Super Bowl was marred by the Britt Reid stuff so I wouldn't think respect had anything to do with that one.

I think it's more an issue of him going for the throat on teams he truly dislikes.

Josh McDaniels was an easy example. That guy had no chill against McDaniels going back to his Denver days.

There's regular Andy and then there's "Y'know, I just don't !@#$ing like that guy" Andy. And I think we've all made note of the latter in the past.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17359341)
If Andy sees this game as the SB (with the NFC being the lesser conference), I could see him rolling out a big boy gameplan for it. Treating it like he has the SB in years past when he's willing to let everything fly.

The thing that makes me a little - just a little - nervous, is that Andy has an affinity for his former coaches. He seems to really respect Harbaugh. I know it's stupid and weird, but I really hope he doesn't try to play it tighter and 'more respectful' against a coach he has respect for.

Bloodless savage Andy is a whole lot of fun. And if he brings that gameplan to Baltimore, they're gonna have their hands full.

He mentioned they had everything loaded up in the plan ready to go last week and didn't end up using all of it.

Suspect they'll do the same and use what they need, even if that means emptying the whole clip.

LongSufferingToady 01-23-2024 05:34 PM

I think it's going to be a tough game for the Chiefs. They have to contain Lamar Jackson, as well as stop the other rushers. If the pass defense is adequate and Jackson is contained the Chiefs have a real good chance. It just depends on which defense shows up at the game: porous or swarming.

I've been wrong so often this season I'll just NOT predict anything but a very close game.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17359363)
He mentioned they had everything loaded up in the plan ready to go last week and didn't end up using all of it.

Suspect they'll do the same and use what they need, even if that means emptying the whole clip.

And if you do empty out in the name of winning against the best team in the league, well that’s just the cost of doing business.

Would give the Lions or 49ers that much more to prep for, too.

Couch-Potato 01-23-2024 05:39 PM

Ravens have been playing great, but do they have enough on offense outside of Lamar He's their top runner, Gus scores a lot of TDs and also had about 800 yards, Zay Flowers had similar numbers to Rashee Rice.

So they have a better run game, and we have a better passing game.

Bolton spies Lamar and we try to take away his feet.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2024 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359383)
And if you do empty out in the name of winning against the best team in the league, well that’s just the cost of doing business.

Would give the Lions or 49ers that much more to prep for, too.

Can you imagine the tightness of Kyle Shanahan's a-hole if he has to prep for the Chiefs in the Super Bowl?

He might choke before the game starts this time.

Big task in front of KC, though. Baltimore is a complete team. Going to have to have a special day to pull that one out.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2024 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17359391)
Ravens have been playing great, but do they have enough on offense outside of Lamar He's their top runner, Gus scores a lot of TDs and also had about 800 yards, Zay Flowers had similar numbers to Rashee Rice.

So they have a better run game, and we have a better passing game.

Bolton spies Lamar and we try to take away his feet.

That's not a good use of Bolton's strengths and weaknesses. Him vs. Jackson in space is a nightmare matchup for Bolton.

KC needs to use Willie Gay or DBs to spy Jackson.

I'd like to see Conner get some spy looks in the 3-safety sets.

Coochie liquor 01-23-2024 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17358748)
You’re right! Spags had his number last time they played when the Ravens dropped 36 on them.

He runs as much as he did that game, he’s gonna not make it to the end. And almost 3 seasons ago. Weren’t you complaining about this very thing?

FloridaMan88 01-23-2024 05:54 PM

Just a reminder that the last time the Chiefs played the Ravens, Spags was trying to contain Lamar with Hitchens and Niemann at LB.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-23-2024 05:59 PM

Pretty crazy convo going on in the Ravens forum: Some inside source is saying Zay Flowers is in some hot water and its going to come down soon... Probably BS, but interesting:

https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...10#post2629110

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-23-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17359404)
Just a reminder that the last time the Chiefs played the Ravens, Spags was trying to contain Lamar with Hitchens and Niemann at LB.

and Sorenson was getting significant snaps

DaFace 01-23-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17359410)
Pretty crazy convo going on in the Ravens forum: Some inside source is saying Zay Flowers is in some hot water and its going to come down soon... Probably BS, but interesting:

https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...10#post2629110

Odd. Surely he's not so dumb as to get into legal trouble in the middle of the playoffs.

I'll assume BS unless we see more.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-23-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17359413)
Odd. Surely he's not so dumb as to get into legal trouble in the middle of the playoffs.

I'll assume BS unless we see more.

Same here, but you never know. Young guys make dumb decisions, especially around women. Also, Sneed said he was drug tested after the game, so who knows. Weird for a long time contributor to go out on a limb like this... cough cough Clay...

KCUnited 01-23-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17359410)
Pretty crazy convo going on in the Ravens forum: Some inside source is saying Zay Flowers is in some hot water and its going to come down soon... Probably BS, but interesting:

https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...10#post2629110

Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Zay Flowers

I can connect those dots

Bearcat 01-23-2024 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17359410)
Pretty crazy convo going on in the Ravens forum: Some inside source is saying Zay Flowers is in some hot water and its going to come down soon... Probably BS, but interesting:

https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...10#post2629110

Heh... Somebody please show Lamar this thread on the Chiefs message board.
https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...-message-board

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It’s crazy that people think Lamar is dumb because he wears braids, has tattoos and wears big rapper chains. They think that Spagnulo will “confuse” him with coverages when Lamar literally practices every training camp and practice against a Mike Macdonald defense. Spagnulo stole a lot of the things that he runs from Macdonald. Lmao
...I dunno, maybe scoring 13 on the wonderlic and not being able to put together sentences and calling plays off his wrist like he's in college :shrug:

ForeverIowan 01-23-2024 06:18 PM

What is all this weak ass talk claiming Mahomes cant catch Brady at 7 rings? If the Chiefs win their next two games, at 28 years old, Mahomes will have:

6 Straight Division Titles
6 Straight AFCCG Appearances
4 SB Appearances
3 SB Titles
3 SB MVPs (likely if we win it)
2 Regular Season MVPs

Correct me if I am wrong, but that surpasses what Brady accomplished by age 28, yes? Not to mention, Mahomes would far surpass Brady at this stage in stats such as yardage, TDs, etc...

Brady went 10 years without winning a SB in the middle of his career. Folks, Mahomes isn't going 10 freaking years without winning a SB I can promise you that.

Now, I understand Mahomes isn't going to play until he is 45 years old. If he plays until he is 40-41 though his career is only a third over. He has 12 seasons left. With the way the NFL protects QBs in today's game and Mahomes' style of play (isn't playing RB like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson) combined with a little luck you hope and pray he won't have any season ending injuries.

Win the next two games and he is well ahead of pace. Win the next two!

If Mahomes wins THREE in the first THIRD of his career I for one am sure as hell not going to put it past him that he could win FOUR in the last TWO THIRDS of his career. Dude is literally entering his prime as a QB at 28 years old.

Bearcat 01-23-2024 06:18 PM

:D

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I've never seen such despicable language and comments in my life.

Do they have mods on that board? Yikes.
https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...onfident-Bunch

suzzer99 01-23-2024 06:19 PM

Embedding the whole thread since apparently twatter is off limits to non users now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The spread is roughly designed to be beat by both teams 50:50. So let&#39;s assume the home beats the spread 50% of the time and refs do not affect this (the reasonable null hypothesis)<br><br>Now, let&#39;s have 19 refs officiate 46 games, all of which are the home team covers 50:50...</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749879812699603024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 26% of simulations, the second-lowest ref happens to have a home team record ATS of 17-29 or worse. In other words, our reality is entirely consistent with the idea that refs don&#39;t impact the home team&#39;s result differently.</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749880539702493402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What about the penalties?<br><br>There is an auto-correlation here. If a team loses ATS, it did worse than expected. There could be a lot of reasons for this, including comitting too many penalties...</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749881772635046284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another way of phrasing it: Diving into the data, one could find refs who<br><br>- &quot;favor the team from the larger city&quot;<br>- &quot;favor the team further North&quot;<br>- &quot;favor the team with younger players&quot;<br>- &quot;favor the team closer to the city they live in&quot;<br>- &quot;favor [use any 50:50 split you want]&quot;</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749887190006440405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over a 49 game stretch, using these numbers, what&#39;s the likelihood that a ref calls &quot;only&quot; 46 false starts or fewer?<br><br>It&#39;s 17.8%...<br><br>Even without pointing to the mentioned auto-correlation or the fact that he is one of 19, that isn&#39;t crazy at all.</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749914823532392810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What&#39;s the likelihood that one of 19 refs calls 62+ home false starts and 46- road false starts over 49 games?<br><br>That would be ~38%. Even more plausible than the 17-29 ATS record we observed.<br><br>Given the auto-correlation, it&#39;s not a surprise to see both happen to the same ref.</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749915522920042523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One more thing: This a very smart tweet re: Why did the NFL assign that game to Smith in particular?<a href="https://t.co/kCXxVhBGPC">https://t.co/kCXxVhBGPC</a></p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749922439113392593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(There is also the thing that playoff refs are distinct so far. 10 different refs have officiated the 10 playoff games. There are not that many refs left. And when the NFL decided to not give Smith an earlier playoff game, they had no idea the Chiefs would even make it that far)</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749922742466453552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

comochiefsfan 01-23-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17359413)
Odd. Surely he's not so dumb as to get into legal trouble in the middle of the playoffs.

I'll assume BS unless we see more.

Surely Britt Reid wouldn’t be dumb enough to drink and drive two days before flying to the Super Bowl.

Chiefshrink 01-23-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359284)
Agreed. Brady is uncatchable. The 2 losses to him in the Playoffs hurt. But he’s a very lucky guy. Dee Ford and the Overtime rule that no longer exists, plus the Chiefs OL being wiped out in the 2nd game helped make a difference in these matchups.

No doubt Brady was gifted 4 SBs by Dee Ford, Shanahan, Carroll and our back up offensive line. And Shanahan still didn't learn his lesson from the SB loss with the Falcons doing the exact same thing against us in SB 54. He stopped running the ball when he should have continued. Had he continued running, no way we win that SB. Just saying. But no, with a 20-6 lead with 6:37 to go he starts passing????????????


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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359284)
The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman.

AMEN!!

Bearcat 01-23-2024 06:23 PM

LOL, that seems like a lot of work to tell Warren Sharp he's a quack.

DaFace 01-23-2024 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359422)
Heh... Somebody please show Lamar this thread on the Chiefs message board.
https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...-message-board



...I dunno, maybe scoring 13 on the wonderlic and not being able to put together sentences and calling plays off his wrist like he's in college :shrug:

I don't think Lamar will struggle because he's dumb. I think he'll struggle because we've played him 4 times, and in those games his stats are:

Passing:
68-121 (56%)
750 yards
4 TDs
2 INTs (1 pick 6)
78.9 QB rating

Rushing:
303 rush yards on 47 attempts (6.4 avg)
3 TDs

It's not like that's awful, but compare that to Mahomes:

Passing:
117-163 (72%)
1479 yards
12 TDs
2 INTs
119.1 QB rating

Rushing:
35 rush yards on 11 attempts (3.2 avg)
0 TDs

Obviously Lamar is a better runner (though Patrick has a knack for running in key situations in the playoffs). But I'm just not all that scared about his ~263 yard average against us vs. Patrick's ~379 yard average against them. Maybe he'll be better this year - we'll see.

DRM08 01-23-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 17359439)
No doubt Brady was gifted 4 SBs by Dee Ford, Shanahan, Carroll and our back up offensive line.

You can add a 5th ring with the Tuck Rule, which did not exist before 1999 and did not exist after 2013. He is the only great QB in history to benefit from this bullshit rule. That play was a damn fumble by Brady and should have ended the game. Lucky as hell to get a ring out of that situation.

Coochie liquor 01-23-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17358869)
keep reading these stats if it makes you feel good, but make sure you come to a Ravens board on Monday ... purpleflock.com and post the stat line of Sundays game.

We’re not the mouth breathing dumb **** on opposing fan’s message board. Your team is gonna take a hard L, and it’s gonna be a rough couple weeks following it. But it suggest filling your time with eating **** pie, queer! Now run and tell that, mother Flocker!

Chiefshrink 01-23-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359339)
No matter what Andy is planning, the OL has to be very physical. If they can kick ass, everything becomes a lot easier on the offensive side of the ball. I want to see a very effective run game with Pacheco, which can help slow down the Ravens pass rush and potentially open up some play action chances as well. It all starts with the OL. They have to play great. They cannot shit the bed here or Andy's plans will go to hell in a hurry, lol

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17359342)
It's gonna come down to the OL on both teams. Whoever pass protects better will likely win.

It always comes down to the "trench play" especially when 2 great teams meet.;)

Chiefshrink 01-23-2024 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17359437)
Surely Britt Reid wouldn’t be dumb enough to drink and drive two days before flying to the Super Bowl.

I totally get your point that dumb people do dumb things at the wrong time. But even IF Britt had never done this we still lose that SB with a back up offensive line. Yes, it did not help matters but, just saying.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2024 06:38 PM

The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

Bearcat 01-23-2024 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17359443)
I don't think Lamar will struggle because he's dumb. I think he'll struggle because we've played him 4 times, and in those games his stats are:

Obviously Lamar is a better runner (though Patrick has a knack for running in key situations in the playoffs). But I'm just not all that scared about his ~263 yard average against us vs. Patrick's ~379 yard average against them. Maybe he'll be better this year - we'll see.

Their argument is "he's different this year!" ...and then you see he's at 261 yards/game for the regular season (slightly lower the Texans game).

TribalElder 01-23-2024 06:43 PM

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Bearcat 01-23-2024 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359450)
The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

Ravens board has entire thread talking about how this thread is overly confident while they make comments like "wonder how they'll feel when we're up 2 scores," and generally acting like they're an unstoppable force.

Hell, I wouldn't even say this thread is all that confident (not nearly as much as the Bills thread), we're just feeling really damn good about the Chiefs after Sunday night.

DRM08 01-23-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359450)
The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

It is the same thing every time. They should not have bothered showing up in Buffalo last week with the supposedly unbeatable home field advantage. KC shouldn't have bothered showing up in the Super Bowl against the loaded rosters of the Niners & Eagles. Might as well not even play the games, lol

KCUnited 01-23-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359433)

Reeks of compression socks over there:

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Chefs' fans think they're waltzing into Baltimore's kitchen to barbecue the Crows -

When they might just be stumbling into a grease fire.
Ok grandma, lets get you to bed

comochiefsfan 01-23-2024 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359450)
The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

like last week, the more negative things I hear about our chances, the better I feel.

This team LIVES for being doubted and having a sliver of motivation they rarely get.

Sure the Baltimore train might get rolling and just overwhelm us.

But if we get into a close game in the 4th quarter then I’ll be very confident we’re going to pull it out. Mahomes will make the plays to win and Lamar will fold in the clutch.

ARROW2 01-23-2024 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359450)
The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

Just like derrick henry gonna run us over, SF defense, Philly defense, cincy and burrowhead, blah....blah...

Pepe Silvia 01-23-2024 06:48 PM

The Chiefs owe the Ravens a playoff loss.

Tribal Warfare 01-23-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 17359461)
Just like derrick henry gonna run us over, SF defense, Philly defense, cincy and burrowhead, blah....blah...

It pisses off the opposition fans puffing up and talking shit when my rebuttal is "BECAUSE MAHOMES"

KCUnited 01-23-2024 06:55 PM

I think its clear that Baltimore is our toughest matchup and they should be favored on a neutral field

KC is playing their best ball right now though and you can't fully quantify their x-factors so you have to go a little gut when predicting an outcome so this probably is a coin flip game

BWillie 01-23-2024 06:58 PM

If Spags can throw Tom Brady off, he sure as shit is gonna throw Lamar Jackson off.

BWillie 01-23-2024 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17359468)
I think its clear that Baltimore is our toughest matchup and they should be favored on a neutral field

KC is playing their best ball right now though and you can't fully quantify their x-factors so you have to go a little gut when predicting an outcome so this probably is a coin flip game

No. The defending champions WILL win.

Pepe Silvia 01-23-2024 06:59 PM

Another positive is that the Chiefs didn’t play them in the regular season, helps a lot.

TheGuardian 01-23-2024 07:01 PM

Looking at the Ravens games this year, even when they did lose, it was CLOSE games. All the way to the end.

In the two they lost, Lamar's rushing was very limited and he had a few turnovers.

Against Indy he ran for over 100 but didn't throw the ball very well.

Again, we can't play man to man because that will get us killed. It'll be 40-10 by halftime if we try that.

It's gonna be a flood the zone and make Lamar throw the ball. I think you could even put two spy's on him and just mush rush the whole game. But the point is, you take away his ability to run all together and you can definitely win.

Their defense ain't ****ing around tho.

KCUnited 01-23-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17359472)
No. The defending champions WILL win.

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Bearcat 01-23-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17359458)
Reeks of compression socks over there:



Ok grandma, lets get you to bed

LMAO

The football analysis is just as outdated... establish the run, stop the run, ToP/chew up clock (did they watch the Bills game?). Hell, their 'let's talk about' thread has more analysis of whether Taylor Swift would cry after a loss than looking at match ups.

Seems to be the reddit of Ravens boards.

Coochie liquor 01-23-2024 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359433)

For a bunch of supposed tough guys, they seem pussy!

Kman34 01-23-2024 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359433)

I’m an ignorant **** who only watches Chiefs football and no other teams.. I only started watching football when the Chiefs got good.. I have no clue who the ravens players are and how really good they are..

****ing morons..

seamonster 01-23-2024 07:20 PM

A lot of these Baltimore fans are band wagon jumpers that abandoned the Redskins. They're front runners.

DRM08 01-23-2024 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17359475)
Looking at the Ravens games this year, even when they did lose, it was CLOSE games. All the way to the end.

In the two they lost, Lamar's rushing was very limited and he had a few turnovers.

Against Indy he ran for over 100 but didn't throw the ball very well.

Again, we can't play man to man because that will get us killed. It'll be 40-10 by halftime if we try that.

It's gonna be a flood the zone and make Lamar throw the ball. I think you could even put two spy's on him and just mush rush the whole game. But the point is, you take away his ability to run all together and you can definitely win.

Their defense ain't ****ing around tho.

Baltimore is a very strong team in all 3 phases of the game with very strong coaches. It will require the Chiefs’ best performance of the season to win. I don’t believe they can afford a lost fumble on the opponent’s goal line.

Bearcat 01-23-2024 07:26 PM

In the reddit thread on Sharp's grade school analysis, there are similar comments to these tweets and a few comments about the possibility of regressing to the mean... and a couple of Chiefs fan comments 'hoping he regresses to the mean next season' and 'one questionable call against the Chiefs and I'm yelling at the TV, "****, he's regressing to the mean!" LMAO

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17359436)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(There is also the thing that playoff refs are distinct so far. 10 different refs have officiated the 10 playoff games. There are not that many refs left. And when the NFL decided to not give Smith an earlier playoff game, they had no idea the Chiefs would even make it that far)</p>&mdash; Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749922742466453552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


TwistedChief 01-23-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17359495)
I’m an ignorant **** who only watches Chiefs football and no other teams.. I only started watching football when the Chiefs got good.. I have no clue who the ravens players are and how really good they are..

****ing morons..

This is my favorite:

“Spagnulo charged [sic] his style of defense and copied a lot of what Mike Macdonald has done here and at Michigan.”

Absolute favorite. The guy with multiple SB rings who as a DC prevented the first perfect season since ‘73 has copied a second year DC. Priceless.

I know you ignorant morons are reading this. Please be sure to defend that take on your forum.

Kiimo 01-23-2024 07:31 PM

Since I know the Ravens fans are reading this


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Do they even know who Zay Flowers is???





yes, geniuses, he trained with Mahomes in Texas before you ever heard of him. We absolutely would have drafted him if he fell to us.

Tribal Warfare 01-23-2024 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17359499)
Baltimore is a very strong team in all 3 phases of the game with very strong coaches. It will require the Chiefs’ best performance of the season to win. I don’t believe they can afford a lost fumble on the opponent’s goal line.

I'm waiting for the KR/PR return game to make positive game tilting plays. It's what finally did in the Eagles.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-23-2024 07:41 PM

7 nation army ****ing sucks. I'll keep saying it since you morons are spying on this thread

Pasta Little Brioni 01-23-2024 07:43 PM

A running back playing QB is going to beat the greatest QB in NFL history and one of the greatest defensive minds in playoff NFL history and one of the greatest coaches in NFL history ROFL

And no Lamar didn't "improve" this year. Homer trashes.

Always bet on the team with the better QB, HC, and defense in big games like this. KC has all THREE.

Imon Yourside 01-23-2024 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17359433)

Litrully xero inteluktual ensite at CP LMAO

Hammock Parties 01-23-2024 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17359523)
A running back playing QB is going to beat the greatest QB in NFL history and one of the greatest defensive minds in playoff NFL history and one of the greatest coaches in NFL history ROFL

And no Lamar didn't "improve" this year. Homer trashes.

Always bet on the team with the better QB, HC, and defense in big games like this. KC has all THREE.

And then we get two weeks to prepare for Goff or a team we ****ing own.

We're doing it.

Dynasty.

TwistedChief 01-23-2024 07:48 PM

Honestly, it boils down to something very simple.

The Ravens were without question the better team this year. More consistently dominant throughout the season, and they earned a lot of those flowers.

The hope for Chiefs fans rests on the fact that we have the best player in the league and experience. We've been in these wars before. We've fought the hot teams no one wants to play and vanquished them (Colts '18, Titans '19, Bills '21, Bengals '22). We've battled the teams with far better rosters (Niners '19, Eagles '22) and come out on top. We've had wars in the postseason that best resemble Balboa/Drago.

If you want to believe your eyes from the regular season, this game won't be close and the Ravens will run away with it. Easily. Not even close.

But if you want to appreciate this team's DNA and how it's played the last couple weeks and if you want to be mindful of the fact that this team has found ways to turn it out when it matters for multiple years in a row, then the Chiefs have every bit of a chance in this game.

The Chiefs fans have a history of watching this team overachieve in this situation. The Ravens fans want to believe that this current season's iteration thus far is the only thing that really matters.

Time will tell. I still think the Ravens win this game 60% of the time, but I wouldn't bet against Mahomes. A lot of people picked against the Chiefs last SB, were wrong, vowed to never bet against this team again, and have now spent the last 2 weeks picking against them again.

**** around and find out, perhaps.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-23-2024 07:50 PM

This is a less talented team than the Eagles team we beat in the Superbowl and the Chiefs offense is finally cooking to normal standards...only this year we have the best defense in football. Uh oh...


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