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It's crazy to me that he has almost wrapped up records to make him 2nd all time. 8 TD's from 2nd in all time postseason passing TD's 4 wins from 2nd all time in postseason wins He's gonna break about all of Tom's postseason records. I think even winning 4 would put him on the argument but 5 would really solidify it. Of course it depends on who the coach is when Andy inevitably retires |
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I would love to see 4 rings for Mahomes & Andy. If they get there, he is clear cut the #2 guy in the GOAT list. He never had shutdown defenses helping him like Montana or Bradshaw or Brady or Aikman. The salary cap has made his job much tougher than it was for Bradshaw, Montana, and Aikman. He is gonna end up way above Montana/Bradshaw/Aikman in Playoff wins even if he does not catch them in ring totals. Patrick is only 3 wins short of tying Montana for 2nd All-Time in Playoff wins, which is insane for a 28 year old kid. And nobody can accuse him of being carried by his defense to Playoff wins, like the washed up Peyton Manning in 2015. The main one I want to see is Ring #3, which will shut up Troy Aikman once and for all. Talking shit about a 22 year old kid in his first season. “Let me know when he gets 3 rings.” Screw Aikman. |
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He's supremely jealous of genuinely great QBs like Patrick because it hurts his fragile ego. |
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I know he’s had a good career, but Kyle Van Noy starts at EDGE for Baltimore?! And Clowney, although a career year, on the other side?
Mahomes hasn’t been sacked in his last three playoff games as it is. |
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The Overtime rule in the Dee Ford game no longer exists as well. Brady has been a super lucky dude on this kind of stuff. Chiefs entire OL got wiped out late in the season, plus Andy's son had the horrible car wreck right before the Super Bowl game to create a massive distraction for the team. Pete Carroll's brain fart on the goal line. It's unbelievable how fortunate Brady has been when you think about it. |
I might be in the minority, but I really don't care where he lands in the GOAT argument, because it'll always be just that... an argument.
Everyone knows what we say about Brady.. all the stats, Super Bowls, longevity, etc; well, he's a cheater and got really lucky 5 times. LMAO It'll be the same for Mahomes.... hell, it already is. HOF coach, HOF WR for a few years, HOF TE for his entire career so far, haters will focus on the roughing and defensive holding calls last year before they look at Dee Ford. Unless he does something Gretzky-like (and not everyone thinks he's the GOAT) and is so far ahead of all other players it's just plain ridiculous, people will argue until the end of time... so who ****ing cares. He's on our team and we get to watch him for hopefully many more years, and he'll go down as the greatest of all time we've watched & gave a siht about (at least until the next one comes along). He's our GOAT, damnit. |
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You aren't wrong lol. |
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Well, I did just see the stat that Mahomes has 66% of the playoff EPA Brady posted in 33% of the games.
Mahomes = 207.27 EPA in 16 playoff games Brady = 329.68 EPA in 48 playoff games So maybe he doesn’t need all that luck. ;) |
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It was one long preseason and not many games you could point at to say, damn, they really wanted that one. |
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"We have Patrick Mahomes - they don't have Tom Brady..." That was pretty much the extent of it. He threw in some stuff about their point differential coming against poor quarterbacks but it ain't like we exactly faced a murderers row in the 2nd half as we were puking on our shoes... |
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Playoff Record when Trailing by 7+ points Mahomes 8-2 (80% win rate) Brady 10-11 (48% win rate) Montana 4-6 (40% win rate) P. Manning 3-9 (25% win rate) Patrick's sample size of 10 games is similar to Montana & Peyton, yet Patrick is absolutely smoking both of them. Montana was known as a super clutch dude with incredible comeback ability. He also had stronger defenses (historically great defenses) backing him with no salary cap to blow up the team. |
The Ravens just got so hot coming down the stretch, kicking the shit out of good teams.
The Chiefs just shit down the stretch.... I was a bit shocked it opened at -3.5 but it quickly went the other way down to -3. I'd guess most of the sharps aren't in yet, so it may get back to -3.5 |
Andy’s been at his best with superior game plans vs supposedly great defensive teams the Chiefs have faced in the postseason in recent years.
Super Bowl vs the 49ers and Eagles… scored 31 points and 38 points respectively. Buffalo in the Divisional Round two years ago… 42 points scored. Andy is going to have a plan to protect Mahomes vs the Ravens pass rush. |
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The thing that makes me a little - just a little - nervous, is that Andy has an affinity for his former coaches. He seems to really respect Harbaugh. I know it's stupid and weird, but I really hope he doesn't try to play it tighter and 'more respectful' against a coach he has respect for. Bloodless savage Andy is a whole lot of fun. And if he brings that gameplan to Baltimore, they're gonna have their hands full. |
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It's gonna come down to the OL on both teams. Whoever pass protects better will likely win. |
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Thought about Arians, but we absolutely waxxed them in the regular season, and the Super Bowl was marred by the Britt Reid stuff so I wouldn't think respect had anything to do with that one. |
Apparently we're supposed to fear the "Flock" according to the little cutie Ravens reporter girl on NFLN.
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Josh McDaniels was an easy example. That guy had no chill against McDaniels going back to his Denver days. There's regular Andy and then there's "Y'know, I just don't !@#$ing like that guy" Andy. And I think we've all made note of the latter in the past. |
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Suspect they'll do the same and use what they need, even if that means emptying the whole clip. |
I think it's going to be a tough game for the Chiefs. They have to contain Lamar Jackson, as well as stop the other rushers. If the pass defense is adequate and Jackson is contained the Chiefs have a real good chance. It just depends on which defense shows up at the game: porous or swarming.
I've been wrong so often this season I'll just NOT predict anything but a very close game. |
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Would give the Lions or 49ers that much more to prep for, too. |
Ravens have been playing great, but do they have enough on offense outside of Lamar He's their top runner, Gus scores a lot of TDs and also had about 800 yards, Zay Flowers had similar numbers to Rashee Rice.
So they have a better run game, and we have a better passing game. Bolton spies Lamar and we try to take away his feet. |
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He might choke before the game starts this time. Big task in front of KC, though. Baltimore is a complete team. Going to have to have a special day to pull that one out. |
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KC needs to use Willie Gay or DBs to spy Jackson. I'd like to see Conner get some spy looks in the 3-safety sets. |
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Just a reminder that the last time the Chiefs played the Ravens, Spags was trying to contain Lamar with Hitchens and Niemann at LB.
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Pretty crazy convo going on in the Ravens forum: Some inside source is saying Zay Flowers is in some hot water and its going to come down soon... Probably BS, but interesting:
https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...10#post2629110 |
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I'll assume BS unless we see more. |
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Ray Rice Zay Flowers I can connect those dots |
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What is all this weak ass talk claiming Mahomes cant catch Brady at 7 rings? If the Chiefs win their next two games, at 28 years old, Mahomes will have:
6 Straight Division Titles 6 Straight AFCCG Appearances 4 SB Appearances 3 SB Titles 3 SB MVPs (likely if we win it) 2 Regular Season MVPs Correct me if I am wrong, but that surpasses what Brady accomplished by age 28, yes? Not to mention, Mahomes would far surpass Brady at this stage in stats such as yardage, TDs, etc... Brady went 10 years without winning a SB in the middle of his career. Folks, Mahomes isn't going 10 freaking years without winning a SB I can promise you that. Now, I understand Mahomes isn't going to play until he is 45 years old. If he plays until he is 40-41 though his career is only a third over. He has 12 seasons left. With the way the NFL protects QBs in today's game and Mahomes' style of play (isn't playing RB like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson) combined with a little luck you hope and pray he won't have any season ending injuries. Win the next two games and he is well ahead of pace. Win the next two! If Mahomes wins THREE in the first THIRD of his career I for one am sure as hell not going to put it past him that he could win FOUR in the last TWO THIRDS of his career. Dude is literally entering his prime as a QB at 28 years old. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The spread is roughly designed to be beat by both teams 50:50. So let's assume the home beats the spread 50% of the time and refs do not affect this (the reasonable null hypothesis)<br><br>Now, let's have 19 refs officiate 46 games, all of which are the home team covers 50:50...</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749879812699603024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 26% of simulations, the second-lowest ref happens to have a home team record ATS of 17-29 or worse. In other words, our reality is entirely consistent with the idea that refs don't impact the home team's result differently.</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749880539702493402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What about the penalties?<br><br>There is an auto-correlation here. If a team loses ATS, it did worse than expected. There could be a lot of reasons for this, including comitting too many penalties...</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749881772635046284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another way of phrasing it: Diving into the data, one could find refs who<br><br>- "favor the team from the larger city"<br>- "favor the team further North"<br>- "favor the team with younger players"<br>- "favor the team closer to the city they live in"<br>- "favor [use any 50:50 split you want]"</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749887190006440405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over a 49 game stretch, using these numbers, what's the likelihood that a ref calls "only" 46 false starts or fewer?<br><br>It's 17.8%...<br><br>Even without pointing to the mentioned auto-correlation or the fact that he is one of 19, that isn't crazy at all.</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749914823532392810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What's the likelihood that one of 19 refs calls 62+ home false starts and 46- road false starts over 49 games?<br><br>That would be ~38%. Even more plausible than the 17-29 ATS record we observed.<br><br>Given the auto-correlation, it's not a surprise to see both happen to the same ref.</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749915522920042523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One more thing: This a very smart tweet re: Why did the NFL assign that game to Smith in particular?<a href="https://t.co/kCXxVhBGPC">https://t.co/kCXxVhBGPC</a></p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749922439113392593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(There is also the thing that playoff refs are distinct so far. 10 different refs have officiated the 10 playoff games. There are not that many refs left. And when the NFL decided to not give Smith an earlier playoff game, they had no idea the Chiefs would even make it that far)</p>— Timo Riske (@PFF_Moo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Moo/status/1749922742466453552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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LOL, that seems like a lot of work to tell Warren Sharp he's a quack.
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Passing: 68-121 (56%) 750 yards 4 TDs 2 INTs (1 pick 6) 78.9 QB rating Rushing: 303 rush yards on 47 attempts (6.4 avg) 3 TDs It's not like that's awful, but compare that to Mahomes: Passing: 117-163 (72%) 1479 yards 12 TDs 2 INTs 119.1 QB rating Rushing: 35 rush yards on 11 attempts (3.2 avg) 0 TDs Obviously Lamar is a better runner (though Patrick has a knack for running in key situations in the playoffs). But I'm just not all that scared about his ~263 yard average against us vs. Patrick's ~379 yard average against them. Maybe he'll be better this year - we'll see. |
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The more content I consume, the more I don’t even know why the Chiefs would show up Sunday. No need to board any planes. They don’t stand a chance against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.
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Hell, I wouldn't even say this thread is all that confident (not nearly as much as the Bills thread), we're just feeling really damn good about the Chiefs after Sunday night. |
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This team LIVES for being doubted and having a sliver of motivation they rarely get. Sure the Baltimore train might get rolling and just overwhelm us. But if we get into a close game in the 4th quarter then I’ll be very confident we’re going to pull it out. Mahomes will make the plays to win and Lamar will fold in the clutch. |
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The Chiefs owe the Ravens a playoff loss.
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I think its clear that Baltimore is our toughest matchup and they should be favored on a neutral field
KC is playing their best ball right now though and you can't fully quantify their x-factors so you have to go a little gut when predicting an outcome so this probably is a coin flip game |
If Spags can throw Tom Brady off, he sure as shit is gonna throw Lamar Jackson off.
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Another positive is that the Chiefs didn’t play them in the regular season, helps a lot.
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Looking at the Ravens games this year, even when they did lose, it was CLOSE games. All the way to the end.
In the two they lost, Lamar's rushing was very limited and he had a few turnovers. Against Indy he ran for over 100 but didn't throw the ball very well. Again, we can't play man to man because that will get us killed. It'll be 40-10 by halftime if we try that. It's gonna be a flood the zone and make Lamar throw the ball. I think you could even put two spy's on him and just mush rush the whole game. But the point is, you take away his ability to run all together and you can definitely win. Their defense ain't ****ing around tho. |
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The football analysis is just as outdated... establish the run, stop the run, ToP/chew up clock (did they watch the Bills game?). Hell, their 'let's talk about' thread has more analysis of whether Taylor Swift would cry after a loss than looking at match ups. Seems to be the reddit of Ravens boards. |
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****ing morons.. |
A lot of these Baltimore fans are band wagon jumpers that abandoned the Redskins. They're front runners.
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In the reddit thread on Sharp's grade school analysis, there are similar comments to these tweets and a few comments about the possibility of regressing to the mean... and a couple of Chiefs fan comments 'hoping he regresses to the mean next season' and 'one questionable call against the Chiefs and I'm yelling at the TV, "****, he's regressing to the mean!" LMAO
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“Spagnulo charged [sic] his style of defense and copied a lot of what Mike Macdonald has done here and at Michigan.” Absolute favorite. The guy with multiple SB rings who as a DC prevented the first perfect season since ‘73 has copied a second year DC. Priceless. I know you ignorant morons are reading this. Please be sure to defend that take on your forum. |
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yes, geniuses, he trained with Mahomes in Texas before you ever heard of him. We absolutely would have drafted him if he fell to us. |
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7 nation army ****ing sucks. I'll keep saying it since you morons are spying on this thread
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A running back playing QB is going to beat the greatest QB in NFL history and one of the greatest defensive minds in playoff NFL history and one of the greatest coaches in NFL history ROFL
And no Lamar didn't "improve" this year. Homer trashes. Always bet on the team with the better QB, HC, and defense in big games like this. KC has all THREE. |
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We're doing it. Dynasty. |
Honestly, it boils down to something very simple.
The Ravens were without question the better team this year. More consistently dominant throughout the season, and they earned a lot of those flowers. The hope for Chiefs fans rests on the fact that we have the best player in the league and experience. We've been in these wars before. We've fought the hot teams no one wants to play and vanquished them (Colts '18, Titans '19, Bills '21, Bengals '22). We've battled the teams with far better rosters (Niners '19, Eagles '22) and come out on top. We've had wars in the postseason that best resemble Balboa/Drago. If you want to believe your eyes from the regular season, this game won't be close and the Ravens will run away with it. Easily. Not even close. But if you want to appreciate this team's DNA and how it's played the last couple weeks and if you want to be mindful of the fact that this team has found ways to turn it out when it matters for multiple years in a row, then the Chiefs have every bit of a chance in this game. The Chiefs fans have a history of watching this team overachieve in this situation. The Ravens fans want to believe that this current season's iteration thus far is the only thing that really matters. Time will tell. I still think the Ravens win this game 60% of the time, but I wouldn't bet against Mahomes. A lot of people picked against the Chiefs last SB, were wrong, vowed to never bet against this team again, and have now spent the last 2 weeks picking against them again. **** around and find out, perhaps. |
This is a less talented team than the Eagles team we beat in the Superbowl and the Chiefs offense is finally cooking to normal standards...only this year we have the best defense in football. Uh oh...
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