ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith

There isn't a ****ing GM alive that would takea player at 1.1 that isn't NFL Ready. Not one, and yet you continue to suggest that it should have happened, which just further illustrates your stupidity.

I like your posts and think Sweet Pussy Hate is a complete tard, BUT... sorry on this one. SF selected Alex Smith 1.1 and in no ****ing way can there ever be a convincing argument that he was NFL ready. :huh:

Sweet Daddy Hate

08-25-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9914365)

Hey look Dane; you have a new fan! The smartest one in the Axl taint-licking crew as well!

I rest my case.

Hammock Parties

08-25-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 9913869)

I actually feel sorry for Clay. I have seen other examples of JW children like him. Clay is not just a ****ed up unit, he's a whole sackful of ****ed up unit.

I'm not baiting him, I'm trying to spark maybe one shred of self-awareness, or something. I'm really on his side.

If the day ever comes that he actually "gets it", I hope it goes well for him.

Dinny

LMAO

I'm really not that ****ed up. I like the internet a bit too much but that's the limit of my strangeness.

SAUTO

08-25-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9914279)

Yes, and the people who have decided Alex Smith is going to be a failure in KC (you are one) are doing the same thing, making you a giant hypocrite.

Yeah, because a couple of preseason games in a rookie year is the same as eight years in the league...
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Kaepernick

08-25-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9914263)

So 1 SB appearance and win gets you to "Elite" and 2 SB wins gets you "near elite"?

John Elway was no where near Elite when he won his SB's.

Aikman was not Elite, he was on a great ****ing team for like 6 years solid.

Eli's inconsistency keeps him from being elite. Dilfer won a super bowl but Marino and Tarkenton did not. Which ones were elite?

As a 49ers fan, it thrills me to hear Aikman was not elite. Please prove it.

Elite is just the top 3-4 players at any given time. Right now that is Brady, Manning, Rodgers & Brees.

So who were the top 4 QBs of the 1990s?

I have it as...

Elite QBs of the 1990s
Steve Young
Brett Favre
Troy Aikman
John Elway

If you don't think Aikman or Elway were elite QBs, then who do you think replaces them on this list?

Dan Marino was past his prime by the early/mid 90s. Jim Kelly was not better than Troy Aikman.

For grins, here is the NFL's top 100 players of all time.

http://top100.nfl.com/all-time-100

DaneMcCloud

08-25-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9914365)

It's 2013, not 2005.

I've used that qualifier a ****ing million times and he knows it.

DaneMcCloud

08-25-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9914375)

Hey look Dane; you have a new fan! The smartest one in the Axl taint-licking crew as well!

I rest my case.

Case? Yeah, mental case.

DaneMcCloud

08-25-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9914362)

And truthful!

About what, you whack job? That Geno Smith should have been selected at 1.1?

Are you clinically insane?

Sandy Vagina

08-25-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9914403)

It's 2013, not 2005.

I've used that qualifier a ****ing million times and he knows it.

Oh.. well okay then. :)

DaneMcCloud

08-25-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9914396)

I'd take Jim Kelly and Dan Marino everyday of the week before Aikman.

Once Aikman's team fell apart around him, he was incapable of putting them on his back and leading them anywhere. He was very accurate but his success was due to coaching, scheme and the players around him.

He was unable to get players to elevate their game.

Kaepernick

08-25-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9914319)

Yeah, BEFORE he became scrambled ****ing eggs, you half a dumbshit.

And don't worry; I will never cheer for a ****ing retread QB on this team.

Refreshing to see an Alex detractor firmly sticking to his guns after a "good Alex" week.

The way the Alex see-saw usually works is, the supporters come out and gloat after the good weeks, and the detractors come out and bash after the bad weeks.

Alex is assured to have both, so you will see-saw with this back and forth all season.

At least you are standing firm, so you will at least be consistent after all the "bad Alex" weeks and nobody can accuse you of waffling.

Yeah, I've seen this show before. This is just the sequel.

ChiefsCountry

08-25-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9914263)

Aikman was not Elite, he was on a great ****ing team for like 6 years solid.

Aikman not elite? You are a ****ing idiot.

Kaepernick

08-25-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9914417)

OK, I can buy that Marino was still elite over Aikman during the early 1990s. Aikman was still "near elite".

By posting the list of QBs for the past 20 years, I was trying to show that only 2 of 20 super bowls were won with game managers, and that 18 of them were won with QBs who were elite (top 4) or nearly so (top 6).

I think I proved that point.

Without a top flight QB, your chances of winning the super bowl is very slim. Alex is a bottom half QB. That was always the point of that post I made. You aren't going to win a super bowl with a game manager. It isn't going to happen. That was the point.