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Sassy Squatch 12-14-2015 03:35 PM

Cueto to Giants.

ChiefsCountry 12-14-2015 03:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Johnny Cueto has an agreement with the Giants, pending a physical.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/676512750202445824">December 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Snapplez 12-14-2015 03:39 PM

Thanks for the games Cueto.

**** the Giants

ChiefsCountry 12-14-2015 03:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Johnny Cueto has six-year, $130 million agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SFGiants?src=hash">#SFGiants</a>, source confirms. Deal has opt-out after 2017. <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports">@FOXSports</a></p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/676516380464783365">December 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefspants 12-14-2015 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11953609)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Johnny Cueto has six-year, $130 million agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SFGiants?src=hash">#SFGiants</a>, source confirms. Deal has opt-out after 2017. <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports">@FOXSports</a></p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/676516380464783365">December 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thanks for everything, Johnny!

(On another note, Giants fans are speculating that this might take them out of the running for Gordo).

BigCatDaddy 12-14-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11953609)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Johnny Cueto has six-year, $130 million agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SFGiants?src=hash">#SFGiants</a>, source confirms. Deal has opt-out after 2017. <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports">@FOXSports</a></p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/676516380464783365">December 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I bet 2nd half shit fest cost him at least 30 million.

Chiefspants 12-14-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11953651)
I bet 2nd half shit fest cost him at least 30 million.

He should thank a higher power that the Royals season didn't end in Game 4 of the ALCS.

He may have lost a year of his contract had that been the case.

DJ's left nut 12-14-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11953651)
I bet 2nd half shit fest cost him at least 30 million.

Maybe, but that deal's about on par with what Zimmerman got in terms of AAV and that's about the same class Cueto is in.

Greinke and Price are in another level. Apart from an insane 2014 season, Cueto's always been in the 'very good' tier. The guys getting a $30 million AAV are likely HOFers.

He almost certainly cost himself a little, but the market doesn't support 7 yr deals for many pitchers and a smallish righty almost certainly wasn't getting one. So if you figure his ceiling was at 6 years, maybe a stellar 2nd half nets him a $24 milion AAV but even that's pushing it.

This deal is much better than I thought he'd get. It seems to suggest that his implosion in KC didn't hurt his market value nearly as much as I thought it would.

DeepSouth 12-14-2015 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11953595)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Johnny Cueto has an agreement with the Giants, pending a physical.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/676512750202445824">December 14, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Too bad the Royals don't get an extra draft pick for this signing.

DeepSouth 12-14-2015 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11953684)
Maybe, but that deal's about on par with what Zimmerman got in terms of AAV and that's about the same class Cueto is in.

Greinke and Price are in another level. Apart from an insane 2014 season, Cueto's always been in the 'very good' tier. The guys getting a $30 million AAV are likely HOFers.

He almost certainly cost himself a little, but the market doesn't support 7 yr deals for many pitchers and a smallish righty almost certainly wasn't getting one. So if you figure his ceiling was at 6 years, maybe a stellar 2nd half nets him a $24 milion AAV but even that's pushing it.

This deal is much better than I thought he'd get. It seems to suggest that his implosion in KC didn't hurt his market value nearly as much as I thought it would.

Well, he is going back to the National League where he won't have to face a DH.

DaWolf 12-14-2015 04:02 PM

That's a good situation for him. Back to the NL, pitcher's park, good money. I'm guessing he bounces back. Thanks for the playoffs Johnny. Those final two games were great...

Chiefspants 12-14-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11953684)
This deal is much better than I thought he'd get. It seems to suggest that his implosion in KC didn't hurt his market value nearly as much as I thought it would.

Game 5 of the ALDS and Game 2 of the WS likely rebuilt some of his value.

DaWolf 12-14-2015 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 11953694)
Too bad the Royals don't get an extra draft pick for this signing.

We got the circle trophy with all the flags. It's cool.

I wonder if our philosophy changes in a few years when we get the new TV deal...

DJ's left nut 12-14-2015 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 11953698)
Well, he is going back to the National League where he won't have to face a DH.

Yeah, it'll help his numbers.

But for the Giants, nobody they sign is going to have to face the DH (obviously) so that's not a 'boost' for him. He's not going to get any better a boost by getting to face the pitcher than anyone would have so you don't give him a premium for that.

When you look at what the Giants and D-Backs offered him, it's pretty clear that the market viewed his time with KC as more of a blip on his radar. That or they saw that performance in the clincher as more indicative of what they could get from him than his struggles in September.

It's not a chance I'd have wanted to take, to be honest.

DJ's left nut 12-14-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11953704)
Game 5 of the ALDS and Game 2 of the WS likely rebuilt some of his value.

Yeah. I think Game 5 especially.

When he got down early and just locked it in for the next 7 innings, that almost certainly got a lot of teams attention. I think that pretty much made him back most of what he lost.


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