The greater point I was a making was that super bowl winners had elite QBs or nearly elite QBs. Game managers don't get it done. Whether Aikman was elite (top 4) or just nearly elite (top 6-8) doesn't really matter.

The greater point is that 15th-20th ranked QBs don't win super bowls and Alex is a 15th-20th ranked QB.

16 of the past 20 super bowl victors had either an elite QB or one nearly elite. That is the point.

Like Alex Smith you mean?

That's what we're comparing right now. Is Alex Smith a less than average QB?

Has anyone ever researched these SB winning QBs, and how consistent their schemes/coaching has been? Or how stacked each team was at the time of their SB win?

I haven't... too lazy.. but it might be a good exercise. I know Drew Brees and Sean Peyton clicked right away.. but how bout most others?

I think most QBs would need consistent scheme with competent coaches to reach their ceilings..

I don't know... just yapping..

Anything is possible. Good luck with that.

Rich Gannon's weakness was that he was a died-in-the-wool perfectionist. He was very hard on himself.

Alex's weakness is that he is risk averse, which prevents him from attacking and going for the jugular.

I don't see Alex overcoming that cautious nature that prevents him generally from taking the appropriate risk for the appropriate reward at the critical time. If Andy can fix that, there is nothing else in his mental and physical skill sets from preventing Alex from being a top 10 QB.

I've long said that if Alex Smith had Aaron Rodgers's attacking mindset and appetite for the appropriate risk at the critical moment, then Alex would be a top 10 QB.

Caution is the key weakness keeping Alex in the middle tier of all NFL QBs. If he can be fixed to not be so risk averse, then you have your top 10 QB.

Frankly, I don't believe this can ever be fixed and it is not coach-able.

Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer clicked instantly. So we can do it, too!

I'll admit Geno's game wasn't good. But those are growing pains. And the game will slow down for him eventually then we'll see how he does.

All super bowl wining teams have been "stacked". No super bowl winning team has been unbalanced on offense and defense. It used to be that defense was the greater part. Now offense is the greater part. But all Super Bowl winning teams have been "stacked".

You can't get through the playoffs with weaknesses in any aspect of your team. Not possible.

No one can sit here and say it was good.

But people are glossing over the positives, like the fact he led two TD drives. With his arm.

Keep telling yourself that. Let me know if the 49ers win two Super Bowls in four years in your lifetime.

"I just feel like we (were) the better team. They got away with one today. We showed we were the better team. It was just a couple plays here, a couple plays there.
-- Niners running back Frank Gore on San Francisco's Super Bowl XLVII loss


"I was so hurt, knowing we were the better team. I had a chance to go to the Pro Bowl and I couldn’t even go because I was so hurt. Knowing that we were the better team but we didn’t finish."
-- Niners running back Frank Gore on San Francisco's NFC Championship loss to the New York Giants


"Who's got it better than us?" Noooooo......"

Highly debatable.

Solid game manager. Those Cowboys teams were loaded.

Honestly, I have no clue what your point is. None.

My point is that this year's super bowl winner will come from the ranks of teams with elite/near elite QBs. No team with a game manager will be winning the super bowl this year.

My Chiefs related point is that Alex will never be on a super bowl winning team. He is not elite or near elite and he never will be.

I have no clue what your point was.

[QUOTE=Kaepernick;9914461]Honestly, I have no clue what your point was. None.

My point was that this year's super bowl winner will come from the ranks of teams with elite/near elite QBs. No team with a game manager will be winning the super bowl this eyar.

I have no clue what your point was.[/QUOTE]

Stupid can't be helped, Kaepernick.

Keep building your hopes on a running quarterback - As fine china they break.

History has shown that you can pretty much count on those running quarterbacks to miss games with injuries.

Eli Manning wasn't NFL ready week one or pretty much year one. I remember him throwing 4 INTs against the Vikes that year. The difference is that Eli had solid foundation and support system. Geno may not have that with Rex Ryan as HC and also may have a mental breakdown before it's all over. Geno Smith still has a chance to get things going in the right direction. I'm not worried if he does or not, it is entertaining to watch Rex Ryan handle this and watch him make a fool out of himself on stage. If Geno bust then good the Jets deserve him. If Geno Smith doesn't bust he had the odds against him.

Guess Len Dawson wasn't elite then.

Your absolutes really say a lot about why you are here. To hate a former player of your team so much as to follow him to the forum that he's traded to just to talk shit absolutes about him? Man.. you got the hate bad for that.