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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-31-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9847411)
Not particularly. I think he's overrated but he's nowhere near as bad as some people make him out to be because they wanted someone else with the pick.

I also think it's safe to say that I'm not a big fan of your statistical cherry picking.

How do you cherry pick a ****ing number?

Mr. Laz 07-31-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9846282)
#3:
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 now

Bray with the deep ball. Poor decision because Greg Castillo had inside position. Copper breaks up the almost INT

I hate this

if the pass is incomplete then it's a poor decision

if the pass is complete then it's a QB trusting his receiver and letting the WR make a play.




our receivers suck

ShortRoundChief 07-31-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9847424)
How do you cherry pick a ****ing number?

I dunno Lil Queefy.

How are 3 apples compared to 3 oranges.

They're both numbers, amirite?

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-31-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9847431)
I dunno Lil Queefy.

How are 3 apples compared to 3 oranges.

They're both numbers, amirite?

Clay's stats are the greatest ever posted on this forum. Deal with it.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-31-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9847421)
Then I guess they don't like SNR....or was it you?

:evil:

You are attached to it though.

ShortRoundChief 07-31-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil Queefy (Post 9847435)
Clay's stats are the greatest ever posted on this forum. Deal with it.

Wut?

I had a vision of the girl saying "Leave Brittany alone" screaming that.

He picks through stats at Pro Football Reference with a confirmation bias. He illuminates the ones that, in his mind, prove his point and completely disregards any outside factors, outliers or confounders.

Anyway, good talking to you I've got shit I've got to do.

Marcellus 07-31-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9846870)
Which just further proves that you're completely ****ing clueless

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-detroit-lions

When news broke Tuesday of Matthew Stafford's reported three-year contract extension, the Around The League crew immediately wondered if the Detroit Lions overpaid for a quarterback who owns a career 1-23 record versus teams with a winning percentage over .500.


Clutch.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-31-2013 10:52 AM

He did have that sweet TD against the Browns..

saphojunkie 07-31-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9846395)
All the reports during camp last year was how much better Romeo ran the camp, etc, etc

I heard Matt Williamson say last year that Romeo's camps were awful. He was at Browns camp with him and said he looked around thinking, "This is really not going to work." From there on, the 810 guys were all dubious about Romeo and their camp reports reflected it.

saphojunkie 07-31-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9847424)
How do you cherry pick a ****ing number?

Read his sig. It's cherry picking. When an opponent scores more than 24 points, Alex Loses! AMIRITE?

Well, actually, that statistic means nothing if Alex Smith's team ALSO scored more than 24 points. If his team loses 48-45, then it would fall under Clay's "Statistical analysis" (see: bullshit), because Smith's team technically lost while the opponent scored over 24 points. But so did his team. So, if the defense had held the opponent to 24 points, he would have won, and Clay's point would be meaningless. Granted, this isn't true for all of these losses or even a majority, but even one contrary example shows the fallacy in relying on statistical propaganda, which is what the sig is.

Still, it's an arbitrary benchmark. He's using statistics to prove points he already believes. That's cherry picking. He would have you believe that the only thing you have to do is to beat Smith is score 24 points, because clearly he was incapable of leading his team to more than four scores in a game. Ever.

They make for great discussion, but it's annoying as **** to have to go and do the research just to disprove a bullshit theory that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

edit: I ****ing love the gifs though. They are far superior to statistics for making an argument.

aturnis 07-31-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9847429)
I hate this

if the pass is incomplete then it's a poor decision

if the pass is complete then it's a QB trusting his receiver and letting the WR make a play.




our receivers suck

It was a poor decision because he wasn't open. That it's all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-31-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9847444)
Wut?

I had a vision of the girl saying "Leave Brittany alone" screaming that.

He picks through stats at Pro Football Reference with a confirmation bias. He illuminates the ones that, in his mind, prove his point and completely disregards any outside factors, outliers or confounders.

Anyway, good talking to you I've got shit I've got to do.

Yep, them ditches ain't gonna' dig themselves.

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9847443)
:evil:

You are attached to it though.

I AM the man, what can I say?

The Bad Guy 07-31-2013 11:22 AM

People still read GoChiefs football opinions?

ChiefMojo 07-31-2013 11:23 AM

Yup typical Clay bullsh*t but SHOULD expected on this board. He is the master of the cherry pick info.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-31-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9847647)
Read his sig. It's cherry picking. When an opponent scores more than 24 points, Alex Loses! AMIRITE?

Well, actually, that statistic means nothing if Alex Smith's team ALSO scored more than 24 points. If his team loses 48-45, then it would fall under Clay's "Statistical analysis" (see: bullshit), because Smith's team technically lost while the opponent scored over 24 points. But so did his team. So, if the defense had held the opponent to 24 points, he would have won, and Clay's point would be meaningless. Granted, this isn't true for all of these losses or even a majority, but even one contrary example shows the fallacy in relying on statistical propaganda, which is what the sig is.

Still, it's an arbitrary benchmark. He's using statistics to prove points he already believes. That's cherry picking. He would have you believe that the only thing you have to do is to beat Smith is score 24 points, because clearly he was incapable of leading his team to more than four scores in a game. Ever.

They make for great discussion, but it's annoying as **** to have to go and do the research just to disprove a bullshit theory that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

Sounds like Clay is keeping you on your toes. Good show.


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