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DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16868045)
WR and Edge are bigger needs than RT is.

That are easier filled in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds, as well as with available FA options, IMO.

I don't necessarily disagree with you in a vacuum (well, I might when it comes to Edge - I don't think that's an immediate need). But I think we can address some of those other holes in later rounds.

And I don't see any realistic path to doing so at RT.

You give me Cedric Tillman and mid-tier veteran WR and I'm content, if not elated, with the WR room. And then, say, Zach Harrison or Ali Gaye in the 3rd to cover the rest of the DE group with Karlaftis, Omenihu and Danna (and maybe another late signing from the veteran DE pile) and we're fine there.

But man, OT gets thin fast.

ForeverIowan 03-21-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16868053)
He really wants Taylor at RT and for us to draft Willie Roaf, I think.

If Broderick Jones turns into Willie Roaf...GREAT!

The Franchise 03-21-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16868060)
What the F are you talking about DF? I was discussing a simple scenario with Megatron regarding injury scenario if we draft a LT vs RT. See your fat ass out of the conversation if you can't follow a simple two msg exchange

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DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16868060)
What the F are you talking about DF? I was discussing a simple scenario with Megatron regarding injury scenario if we draft a LT vs RT. See your fat ass out of the conversation if you can't follow a simple two msg exchange

What if Mahomes dies?!?!?!

What then!?!?!

htismaqe 03-21-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16868051)
Honestly I don't know. But roster-wise, we have two guys already that have shown at least some ability to play RT in Niang and Prince. Not so much at LT. Like very little ability. maybe one of those guys comes into preseason and shows some better ability. But you want Taylor at RT, so we now have three RTs.

That's the other thing:

Niang was a 3rd round pick who they've kept around despite his issues. They obviously see something in him. If the concern is injury, draft a backup swing or right tackle and put Niang out there to see if you're actually going to get a return on the already sunk investment.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16868053)
He really wants Taylor at RT and for us to draft Willie Roaf, I think.

And somehow a hypothetical whereby Taylor plays LT then gets hurt forwards that conversation...

I see...

htismaqe 03-21-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16868060)
What the F are you talking about DF? I was discussing a simple scenario with Megatron regarding injury scenario if we draft a LT vs RT. See your fat ass out of the conversation if you can't follow a simple two msg exchange

Here's the thing:

In your scenario, you're looking at replacing both LT AND RT, whether it's moving guys around, people switching positions, keeping Taylor at RT, or playing Thuney LT (can't believe I even had to mention it).

If you put Taylor at LT and Niang or anybody else at RT, if Taylor gets injured you put in the 2nd guy. You're only changing one position, which for the offensive line is extremely important.

Megatron96 03-21-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16868068)
And somehow a hypothetical whereby Taylor plays LT then gets hurt forwards that conversation...

I see...

Something like that. OL is not my thing, so this conversation is rapidly dropping into depths i can't swim in, but I do think the general idea is that the best OT plays LT. On most teams I'm fairly sure this is correct.

But it's the offseason, so what the Heck, right?

Dante84 03-21-2023 04:20 PM

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Megatron96 03-21-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16868063)
If Broderick Jones turns into Willie Roaf...GREAT!

When do we do the DNA test?

DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16868073)
Something like that. OL is not my thing, so this conversation is rapidly dropping into depths i can't swim in, but I do think the general idea is that the best OT plays LT. On most teams I'm fairly sure this is correct.

But it's the offseason, so what the Heck, right?

And the best OT is going to be a rookie. Who we trade up for. Because Brent Vlumpf is playing 5D chess.

Cool. I'm up to speed now.

You two may continue. I'll try to keep up.

ForeverIowan 03-21-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16868065)
What if Mahomes dies?!?!?!

What then!?!?!

Ohhh I'm sowwy I hurt your feelings. You are always the smartest guy in the room arent ya??

DJ's left nut 03-21-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16868080)
Ohhh I'm sowwy I hurt your feelings. You are always the smartest guy in the room arent ya??

Usually, yes.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16868062)
That are easier filled in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds, as well as with available FA options, IMO.

I don't necessarily disagree with you in a vacuum (well, I might when it comes to Edge - I don't think that's an immediate need). But I think we can address some of those other holes in later rounds.

And I don't see any realistic path to doing so at RT.

You give me Cedric Tillman and mid-tier veteran WR and I'm content, if not elated, with the WR room. And then, say, Zach Harrison or Ali Gaye in the 3rd to cover the rest of the DE group with Karlaftis, Omenihu and Danna (and maybe another late signing from the veteran DE pile) and we're fine there.

But man, OT gets thin fast.

You said it yourself, it gets thin fast. There's decent chance no good tackle is there at 31. You don't want to reach for a 2nd tier guy when other positions are falling down the board. If you're drafting for need, it's gotta be a WR (and I'm not suggesting they have to go WR in the 1st, it's just a bigger need than RT). Now if we go and get Hopkins or OBJ, that changes everything. Beyond that, I still think Edge is a bigger need than RT.

I just don't see any way to say drafting a RT at 31 is a good thing unless one of the LT prospects falls all the way down. And I just don't see the Chiefs pulling the trigger. I know people think the Chiefs would just draft a LT and move Taylor to RT but I just don't think they will.

Kiimo 03-21-2023 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16867527)
JUSTYN ROSS!! I keep seeing this, but I swear I will be totally shocked if that kid sees even 1 game on the active roster in 2023.

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