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LMAO you're here to slam Smith, with the way Kaep is playing?

Smith has mad bomber numbers compared to your boy.

So much this.

I am so glad we have Alex Smith instead of Colin Kaepernick!

We don't have Trent Green or Rich Gannon either, both of whom would be a huge upgrade at this point.

Interdasting...go on.

Meh. We suck at drafting and I believe that it is attributed to Reid getting final call. FA is clearly our huckleberry under Dorsey.

But yeah, I get your point.

Or, Clay could put his dick back in his pants for a half hour, and MAKE SOME GODDAMNED GIFS.

Jesus ****. are you this ****ing dense?

Andy Reid, probably could of had Geno Smith number one over all. Or brought in Hasselbeck that he coached in GB, or signed Jason Campbell, Matt Moore, traded for Foles, or signed Mike Vick when he was released.

There was a reason that they beefed up the defense. There is a reason they over payed for Alex Smith.

Do you really think that Andy Reid ever once saw that Alex Smiths career high in td passes was 17? That his high for yardage was about 3100?

Do you not think that Andy Reid looked at the Chiefs roster on offense and said "holy shit, I really don't have shit here."

I mean think about it. Coming from Philly with D Jax, Maclin, shady, Celek, Avant, Riley Cooper.

Do you really think he saw the Chiefs and said, OH HELL YEAH BOYS, OPEN IT UP.

You can spout all you want. Everyone, outside of Chiefs fans, know that the Chiefs have NO WEAPONS outside of Jamaal Charles.

Bowe, in anyone elses mind, other than Chiefs fans, is not a number two receiver.

Avery is a GOOD THREE. Bowe is a GREAT TWO, bottom Tier one, mccluster is the 3. Fasano is a nice Depth Tight end. He is not starting Caliber.

Alex Smith, is not a super star qb. Being all ass hurt, when a non STAR qb, puts up non star numbers, with NON STAR talent around him, is like asking for a 5 star hotel room, at the econo inn motel.

Just doesn't work.

But again. You will see how much OVERHAUL is done during the offseason. I will be right, and you will still be living with your 20/20 hindsight vision.

I honestly, cant even believe you would dare show your face here.

Do you know how much of a clown you REALLY LOOK LIKE?

Kaepernick the SAVIOR!!!1 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Hey, how about that prediction of the Chiefs winning more games, and how about that 9-7 record prediction?

Im not gonna be far off on either am I?

Owned.

wut

No NO.

Its all greg romans fault. The OC. Not the fact that Kap flat out sucks. Is taking a SHIT TON OF SACKS. Cant elude pressure, holds the ball forever, and cant read a defense.

First they blamed the receivers. Now they want the OC FIRED.

That's how it works.

Dwayne Bowe... regarded as one of the best WRs in the NFL until 2013, when Alex Smith arrives.

Yep.

It's so, so ****ing stupid.

We will never, ever know how good Dwayne Bowe could have been.

I didn't stutter.

Only in Chiefs fans minds, is Dwayne Bowe a true number one receiver.

He does not belong in the same breath with

Calvin,
Dez,
Julio,
Aj Green,
Demarius Thomas,
Steve Smith,
Desean Jackson,
Victor Cruz,
Randall Cobb,
Larry Fitz,
Percy Harvin,
Antonio Brown,
Josh Gordon,
Pierre Garcon,
Reggie Wayne,
Andre Johnson.

Those are true number one receivers.

Can you tell me that he belongs in line with any of those?

No, he doesn't. And only blind chiefs homers believe that he does.

Like I said.

Hes a great number two receiver.

Hes a low end number one, and I just proved that.

So, wut, somewhere else.

HOMER.

Look back at my quote.

Read it.


Then respond accordingly.

NO
No. Your last line may be true.

But no. As is, he is not a true number one receiver.

Josh Gordon puts up numbers with a shitty qb. Calvin puts up numbers from Shaun hill, a number one, is a guy that gets his numbers no matter what.

Steve Smith has done it for years in Carolina.

Only CHiefs homers believe that he is a true number one receiver.

Hes not.

Sorry. Truth. Deal with it.

What the **** would you know?

You probably didn't even know there was a football team in KC until the 49ers traded the stud Alex Smith to them.

You would claim freaking Megatron was overrated if he was on the Chiefs just to prop up Alice.

Now Dwayne Bowe isn't as good as Pierre ****ing Garcon and Randall ****ing Cobb? LMAO

Squirrels at your brain.

you knew what I meant.

jerk lol

Im so ****ing tired. Pulled a double.

Announcer on patriots radio talking about how only elite qbs can make no name wrs top notch. Talked about aamendola not drafted and cut by cowboys, eagles, & rams. Qbs make players!

I wouldn't be me if I didn't make that post.

You know that. :)

This has ZERO to do with Alex Smith.

Zero. I realize how limited he is. I also realize his purpose.

But, you just keep on there little guy.

I wont stop you.

Alex Smith is a mediocre game manager, who was wanted for one reason, and one reason only. To take care of the football.

The fact to me, remains though, that outside of Charles, the entired Chiefs offense including Alex Smith, is horse shit.

Its nothing new.

So, find something new okay?

well played. I tip my hat.....hahaha.

Well, true, but, then again, I did get to follow the Chiefs when Montana, and then Bono, and the GREAT ELVIS GRBAC came to Chiefs land. Until then, I was completely oblivious.

And to answer your first part. Not much. That's why its called an OPINION.

Your opinion is that guys like Randall Cobb were/are better than Bowe before/after Alex Smith.

Your opinion is dog shit.

Aint no squirrels out an about up here boss. Too cold.

Pierre had a hell of a season when Peyton Manning went down.

Hes a hell of a receiver. As is Cobb.

But, okay, I could give you Bowe.

But can anyone even realistically argue that even if you draft a qb this year, that the talent at receiver, and te, can be upgraded?

That's my problem with this. We all KNOW, and already knew who alex smith was. So that isn't even the issue anymore.

The offense outside of Charles, is FAIL.

FAILLLLLLLLLLLL.

My opinion of Dwayne Bowe, on a national scale, is far more accurate than yours is.

So, call it what you want.

Randall Cobb is a multifaceted weapon that can be used in EVERY facet of the offense, and provides an insane element to the return game.

He is the complete package as a football player.

Shrugs. To each their own right?

What does returning kicks have to do with WR?

Randall Cobb... The true #1 WR yet to eclipse the 1000 yard mark with ****ing Aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball.

Oh, okay cool. We want to go by that metric.

So, jordy nelson is a better receiver than Dwayne Bowe.

James Jones is a better receiver than Dwayne Bowe.

Take your pick.

So, he's Dexter McCluster? Awesome!

No no. Randall Cobb, wishes he could be as great as DMC.

After all, the receivers in KC, are FINE. Its just the qb that is the problem.

So, this is an old joke, but a good one from the Cassel era (when the Casselites were still defending him and blaming everyone but him): The reason the receivers drop so many passes is that they are surprised when he actually throws it right at them. They are just waiting to have to pull some acrobatic shit - its like the Eephus pitch, man.

4th Quarter Casseling gave me horrible flashbacks. I need to see a PTSD specialist.

Bray time

Okay, I've taken the liberty of getting a list of currently starting NFL QB's:

1. Carson Palmer
2. Matt Ryan
3. Joe Flacco
4. Thad Lewis
5. Cam Newton
6. Josh McCown
7. Andy Dalton
8. Tony Romo
9. Peyton Manning
10. Matt Stafford
11. Scott Tolzien
12. Case Keenum
13. Andrew Luck
14. Chad Henne
15. Alex Smith
16. Ryan Tannehill
17. Christian Ponder
18. Tom Brady
19. Drew Brees
20. Eli Manning
21. Geno Smith
22. Terrelle Pryor
23. Nick Foles
24. Ben Roethlisberger
25. Philip Rivers
26. Colin Kaepernick
27. Russell Wilson
28. Kellen Clemens
29. Mike Glennon
30. Jake Locker
31. Robert Griffin III

Ok, so who are the 22 quarterbacks that you would take over Alex Smith?

My point, again, isn't that Smith is awesome. It is that there is a shit-ton of not at all good quarterbacks in the league.

Smith is average.

Aaron Rodgers
Jay Cutler
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton
Tony Romo
Peyton Manning
Matt Stafford
Andrew Luck
Ryan Tannehill
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Phil Rivers
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Jake Locker
RGIII
Nick Foles

That's 21 guys I consider to be superior to Alex Smith.

Now lean forward and choke yourself.

+ Case Keenum

The only disputable guy I see is Locker, but you left of all kinds of young guys who aren't better now, but have the potential to be. Hell, some of them are already very close.

A 25-year old with insane physical tools who showed huge improvement after just 18 starts > Captain Checkdown.

lol hypocrite

The irony is ****ing amazing

No geno?

So, you agree, Smith was the best available QB this off season.

Alex Smith:

When the pool is completely empty, and someone, ANYONE, must be behind Center!

No. Matt Cassel is essentially the same guy, and Jason Campbell would have been a better gamble. Plenty of times too.

Neither Geno, EJ or Glennon are better than Alex Smith right now.

The idea is that one of them would be better than him in three years.

We could have been test driving one of these young QBs, but instead we're just pissing into the wind with Alex, who is taking the team nowhere.

It's a great way to sell season tickets!

Your opinion is worthless.

What in the world has Tannehill done this year? Or Locker for that matter? I wouldn't put Foles in there yet either. He hasn't done it for a full season.

Everyone else is agreed.

So, go with a QB that guarantees a few losses by himself.

Those guys are more talented QBs, and much younger, too.

It's not hard to be better than Alex. You just have to be more of a playmaker at the position than literally the worst playmaking QB in the NFL.

True, but I don't recall them making many plays either.....

I know! It's pathetic how low on the totem pole Alex is!

If it's for right now only, you need to get Andy Dalton off that list. Dude has been complete garbage

No, he hasn't. He's had several awesome games this year.

He's an improving young QB, who has a ton more playmaking ability than Alex.

LMAO

He had a three game hot streak and has been crap since. Guy has 15 picks. How do you figure he is improving? He is getting worse

better than a zero game hot streak

If smith had 15 picks this place would meltdown

The guy throws for 270 yards and 2 TD a game. I'll take him, thanks.

That's because Alex doesn't compensate for turnovers with big plays.

There are very few turnovers to compensate for. Our Qb throws that many picks and our defense goes to quite average due to short fields, being out there a lot more etc. see 2012 chiefs. Our defense suffered a lot due to Cassel and Quinn throwing picks all the time.

I don't think smith is the answer at qb. I'll be disappointed if there's no competitor next year. But if you are gonna play defensive, ball control football, smith is about all we could have gotten this year. We definitely need an upgrade soon. I'd rather have 30 year old smith we know we need to replace than get saddled with a stiff like Dalton and overpay for him

Dalton isn't a stiff.

Throwing for 270 yards and 2 TD per game, in your third year in the league, is good stuff.

I guarantee you this fan base would jizz over a guy like that in red.

Dalton is poised to be that QB that never makes it to the 2nd round of playoffs, so when the Bengals finally get tired of losing those games he'll be right here in KC.

Shame AJ Green wont be coming with.

I bet Adam Dunn is your favorite baseball player. Sure, his average is awful and he strikes out a ton, but he hits a nice long ball.

Now, hold on, friend. Earlier in this thread it was concretely established that Flacco and Ryan weren't good enough to compare Smith's stats with, so those two are out. (I'm assuming that your clones speak for you, which will probably not help things.) So, that's 19.

Kaepernick? Really? He's suffering from backup qb syndrome -- after 4-6 games there's enough video of him that defenses have him figured out. So that's 18.

Foles is still in the 4-6 week backup honeymoon.

I would like to hear your justification for Tannehill, Locker, Dalton, and possibly Newton. Obviously, you need to avoid using words like "potentional" for this discussion.

No, they're not. That's someone else's opinion, not mine.

Flacco and Ryan both have more playmaking ability and are more accomplished NFL veterans.

Game over for Alex.

The fact you think I need to provide justification for Cam ****ing Newton over Alex D. Smith is hilarious.

Just accept the facts: Alex will retire with one career playoff win which you will be spankin' it to for eternity.

It was exactly as a lot of people said..... If we get down by 14, we are screwed.

Shitting all over a career 861OPS LMAO

I bet Getzy is your favorite player. Sure he sucks, but he can bunt and run hard and stuff. LMAO

If Alex Smith were a baseball player he'd be a good obp guy. Draw a lot of walks. He's not a playmaking QB, and there are 18 or so QBs that I'd rather have, but that's a pointless conversion. Would you rather have Dalton? Or Newton? Well those weren't options so irrelevant. I still say Smith is and was the best option via trade FA or draft this year.

Best option for what exactly? I mean Cassel proved he could lead a team to 8+ wins and s first round blowout loss which is the same thing Smith is doing now.

Smith is definitely in the top ten, I'd put him closer top 5 actually

Come on. Are all you guys idiots? Cassel can't start on a bad team that has no QB. I listen to Minnesota sports radio and the bitch about why couldn't they have traded for Smith. You think they're the same?

Wow, this is clearly personal to you. I apologize. I have to admit that I'm not invested in this argument nearly as much as you are, so I'm sorry that I upset you.

Yeah, Cam Newton was a reach for me. I just was not impressed with him last year. I think most people would put Cam ****ing Newton in the average category. (I will say this -- if he always played like he did at times last night, I wouldn't doubt it for a second. He looked like Dante Hall on that scramble. Amazing.) Your reaction makes me wonder, though, if you think Cam Newton is a top 5 QB? Top 10? Wow. If not, I guess you were just over-reacting a bit, which is understandable considering how personal this is for you. And there's nothing wrong with that, by the way. It's good to be invested in ... hating Alex Smith? What exactly are you invested in, Mr. Forehead? Being "realistic"?

Uh, Matty Ice is more accomplished than A. Smith? Sure about that?

Why do I have a hunch that with a little searching I could find posts where you bashed the shit out of Joe ****ing Flacco?

Remember, I'm saying Smith is average. You guys are crapping on him like he's the worst qb in the league. He's not. He was the best option last year, and we overpaid for it. So far it was worth it, as the other options have turned out to suck ass.

I think you'll find that Smith is the worst qb in the history of football -- no, correction, the worst athlete in the history of sports. Worst human being ever? Maybe. If you throw out Hitler/Stalin/Obama.

More touchdowns, more yards per game, and not sucking for 75 percent of his career...yes, he's far more accomplished.

At 2 and 14, he would have been right. :evil:

Sucking for 75% of his career? I didn't find that stat online. Is that subscription-only?

Smith is average. Average. Stop acting like he's the worst qb in the league. He was the Chiefs' best option in the off-season. It has paid off well enough so far.

This off-season I will join you in the chorus that pleads for a worthy-to-draft qb to hopefully take over really soon.