ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith

I maintain it was not Aikman but Charles Haley who ****ed Steve Young out of 2 super bowls.

The tide turned when the 49ers traded Charles Haley to Dallas after 1991. What followed were Dallas back-to-back super bowl wins in 1992 and 1993.

Charles Haley was the missing link that completed the Dallas Cowboys. His absence from the 49ers pass rush doubled the impact. The 49ers no longer had a dominant pass rush, and the Cowboys got one.

I remain convinced that the Steve Young would have 3 super bowl rings if George Siefert had not traded away Haley, and Aikman, Emmit and the Cowboys would be an afterthought with just 1 super bowl win in the 90s.

splatbass

08-25-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9914446)

No one can sit here and say it was good.

But people are glossing over the positives, like the fact he led two TD drives. With his arm.

Just like you gloss over the positives with Alex Smith? :facepalm:

beach tribe

08-25-2013 02:23 PM

I ****ing hate Aikman,

But you guys are ****ing Silly calling him a game manager.

It was a different era. The Cowboys had the best run blocking line in history. Like
Like the 2003 Chiefs, they didn't throw the ball inside the 20.
They didn't have to.

Hammock Parties

08-25-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9914591)

Just like you gloss over the positives with Alex Smith? :facepalm:

I gave credit to Alex for his TD drive. Keep that up and homer GoChiefs will rise again.

Kaepernick

08-25-2013 02:30 PM

People are young or just don't remember the pre wing-it-out 4000 yards per game passing era.

All the Cowboys did all 4th quarter was pound Emmit Smith up the middle. Pretty tough to get TDs and passing yards when you are running out the clock on another win.

I hate Aikman's guts, can't stand him as an analyst, but I am forced to give credit where due.

Kaepernick

08-25-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9914534)

He had one season in his career with more than 20 touchdowns. I think most agree that he was a very great game manager.

That's it, I hate Aikman so much, I'm joining you calling him a "game manager". It isn't true, but I love the sound of it, so I'm on board.

Troy Aikman -- "Hall of Fame Game Manager". I like it! :thumb:

SanDiego49er

08-25-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9914587)

Alvin Harper was a complete disappointment after he left Dallas, and Novacek was nothing before he got to Dallas.

Remember he lost his finger. Or part of it. That was not the case for most years in Dallas. Makes it much harder to catch.

-King-

08-25-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9914571)

I'm going on a limb to guess that the Hall of Fame committee disagrees with you.

Or are you saying there are other great game managers in the NFL Hall of Fame with Aikman?

He's in because the Cowboys won 3 superbowls with him.

And by the way, the Hall of Fame committee also voted in Joe Namath. A terrible QB.

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Aikman held or tied 47 Dallas passing records.

So? Is Dallas the whole NFL now?

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You can only hope Alex becomes such a game manager. There is no doubting that Aikman had an A+ supporting cast, which is why he only was SB MVP in 1 of 3 super bowls. But a game manager?

You are evil for making a me defend Aikman. I hate Aikman and the Cowboys and I always will.

Yes game manager. Dude averaged 13.75 touchdowns a season. He was a game manager.

-King-

08-25-2013 02:44 PM

Milkman agrees

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9825173)

I've never seen "game manager" as a negative, and it goes further back than ~alsh.

Some of the top QBs to have played the game, including Bartt Starr and Troy Aikman, and Lenny Dawson were game managers.

Those guys, however, were franchise QBs.

Hammock Parties

08-25-2013 02:47 PM

Breaking Roger Staubach's records is no joke.

Mav	08-25-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9914353)

That doesn't excuse poor reads and stepping out of the end zone.

Rex called Geno "brutal" after practice recently.

Does that sound like an NFL ready rookie starter?

Dane. I know hes not ready to start. Everyone except JOHN IDZIK (jets gm with a hard on for him) knows he isn't ready to start. Unfortunately, Rex, Idzik, someone messed up and got Mark Sanchez killed last night, and because of that, Geno is going to get destroyed because his oline is garbage, and he has no receivers......Gonna be a rough rookie year for Geno......Doesn't mean hes trash.

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9914559)

If I am designing an NFL QB in a genetics lab, I just clone Troy Aikman.

Aikman might of been the most accurate qb in the history of the game.

He didn't have to put up elite numbers because his team was elite, but he could win games if he needed to. But having that Oline, and Emmitt Smith is a nice problem to have.

Mav	08-25-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9914501)

He hates him but you're gay for him. Which one is worse?

Wait, so its cool to follow a guy here that you swore you couldn't wait to stop talking about, and its uncool to follow a guy you like?

I think my work here is done.

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