ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief

Tanoh Kpassagnon and Breeland Speaks bud.

I know it’s early for both but **** man. If you were asked right now after what you’ve seen from both, would you feel comfortable starting those guys?

Sassy Squatch

09-25-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13762570)

Pretty sure he, and everybody else, is speculating on compensation based on the Cowboy leaks from last spring.

That's been the one constant in all the reports, though. Chiefs think the price is too high. Both the trade compensation and the limited cap.

T-post Tom

09-25-2018 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13762577)

Isn't our cap in '19 45 mil or so?

WBF

Cap is LOADED with dead money this year: $18.5M. Drops all the way down to $500K next year, based on current roster. Chiefs will be looking at a cap space of almost $48M next year. Puts them into the top half of the NFL... next year. (I read there is only $6.6M in cap space this year. Not sure how current/accurate that is.)

The Franchise

09-25-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13762591)

Tanoh Kpassagnon and Breeland Speaks bud.

I know it’s early for both but **** man. If you were asked right now after what you’ve seen from both, would you feel comfortable starting those guys?

Yet people would rather draft another guy over trading for a legitimate top 5 FS in the league.

BlackOp

09-25-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13762592)

That's been the one constant in all the reports, though. Chiefs think the price is too high. Both the trade compensation and the limited cap.

Chiefs need to place a value on what a potential SB appearance is worth not only to the franchise but the city...I mean it's only been 50 years.

Vegas has KC as the odds on AFC favorite at this point...when has that happened ever?

They need to strike now...and let the cap fall where it may in the future. It's not like Thomas is going to be a dud.

Chiefs have a 3 year window... and the AFC's top teams look flawed.

htismaqe

09-25-2018 02:10 PM

There isn't a single guy on the 2019 list that is a MUST have. Not one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13762586)

2019 - $41 million projected cap space

FAs

Allen Bailey
Dee Ford
Anthony Sherman
Demetrius Harris
Orlando Scandrick
Spencer Ware
Damien Williams
Mitch Morse
Ron Parker
Jordan Devey
De'Anthony Thomas
Jarvis Jenkins
Chris Conley
Steven Nelson
Austin Reiter
Jordan Lucas
Terrance Smith
Alex Ellis
Justin Hamilton
Harrison Butker
Marcus Kemp

2020 - $65 million projected cap space

FAs

Chad Henne
Xavier Williams
Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Kendall Fuller
Eric Murray
Demarcus Robinson
Tyreek Hill
Dillon Gordon
Andrew Wylie

htismaqe

09-25-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13762602)

Chiefs need to place a value on what a potential SB appearance is worth...I mean it's only been 50 years.

Vegas has KC as the odds on AFC favorite at this point...when has that happened ever?

They need to strike now..

There's always next year.

RunKC

09-25-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13762575)

Our pass rush left 2 years ago.

That’s the thing. We HAVE to get a good pass rush. Rarely do good pass rushers hit the market.

This team has drafted OLB’s early 2 years in a row and haven’t gotten anything notable yet.

I’m fine signing Earl Thomas but the bottom line is you have to draft well. We need to start hitting on the draft.

The Franchise

09-25-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13762608)

There isn't a single guy on the 2019 list that is a MUST have. Not one.

Another way to look at it? There is not one guy on that list that is going to cost a ton to keep if they want.

Mecca

09-25-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13762590)

What's Thomas' injury history? He's just a season removed from flirting with retirement. Something to consider.

He put that on social media that night he broke his leg 2 years ago, I think he was just down that he got hurt.

He missed the final 5 games of that year and 2 last year, other than that never missed a game..

So he's missed less games his whole career than Berry has in 3 of his seasons and that is quickly approaching 4.

DRM08

09-25-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13762602)

Vegas has KC as the odds on AFC favorite at this point...when has that happened ever?

Possibly last year when the Chiefs started 5-0.

BigRedChief

09-25-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13762572)

1. Trade and sign Thomas to an extension.
2. Extend Hill at the end of this offseason.
3. Extend Jones and Fuller at the end of the 2019 season (if you want to).

Not. ****ing. Hard.

yep, you need to do something now because Mahomes is getting his money in 3 more years. Going to be a lot harder then.

Mecca

09-25-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13762573)

Say goodbye to our pass rush.

Seriously I don’t see a problem with signing Tyreek and Jones this Spring even if we get Earl Thomas.

How did Jones get this rep? He's not Neil Smith dude.

BlackOp

09-25-2018 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13762610)

There's always the next 50 years.