Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14224654)

dude, you're acting like since we signed Clark we don't get to draft anyone in the next two years.

The truth is, if you want to take advantage of this Mahomes on his rookie contract window, no picks from #29 or the second round are going to play at a level that Frank Clark has already demonstrated in 2019 or 2020. They're just not. you're not going to get Derrick Thomas at #29.

It's not like we just went nuts in Vegas either; we jettisoned old contracts that were bloated and huge with Berry and Houston and considering what we would've had to pay Ford, we're still ahead money-wise.

And check this- so if we'd kept Ford, we'd have paid what, $17.5 million? So we're literally talking about...like $3 million. That's like...Eric Murray.

Who ****ing cares? AND we still have two #2's, a HIGHER #3, a #5, two #6's and a #7 as well as a full complement of picks next year.

We didn't mortgage anything. We're still ahead of where we were cap-wise in January, we got younger, stronger, and more aggressive. We got HEALTHIER, which was a major problem previously.


We wanted a re-build on defense, and Veach and Reid have done it in a head-spinningly quick fashion. I for one am pretty ****ing impressed.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14224718)

Do you realize that you're putting for 'evidence' that contradicts itself and your point every time you post?

So we didn't overpay for Thomas, but we always overpay?

We should've gotten more for Peters, except nobody would pay it?

We should've gotten something for Houston! Except everyone knew we would release him, so they just waited for that. Because you know, you can just bluff people when they know what cards you're holding.

OMG we overpaid huge for Clark! Except, nah, not really. We're paying him a few million a year more than Ford. And he's twice the player.

YOU have decided, in your mind, on a narrative that you believe. You are now presenting any and all evidence as proof of that narrative, whether it fits or not.

You're not being logical at all. You're just reacting on an emotional level.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14224718)

Do you realize that you're putting for 'evidence' that contradicts itself and your point every time you post?

So we didn't overpay for Thomas, but we always overpay?

We should've gotten more for Peters, except nobody would pay it?

We should've gotten something for Houston! Except everyone knew we would release him, so they just waited for that. Because you know, you can just bluff people when they know what cards you're holding.

OMG we overpaid huge for Clark! Except, nah, not really. We're paying him a few million a year more than Ford. And he's twice the player.

YOU have decided, in your mind, on a narrative that you believe. You are now presenting any and all evidence as proof of that narrative, whether it fits or not.

You're not being logical at all. You're just reacting on an emotional level.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14224741)

You do realize there's a sweet spot between undercompensation and overcompensation, right? It's one thing if it feels just a touch off. But on each of those deals I mentioned Cp felt we were WAY off market value.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224696)

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Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 14224756)

This would be a real solid list of talent, and addresses almost every need (no Ol ?).

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14224684)

We still have 3 picks in the top 85 dude. That’s what they are for.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14224774)

Chiefs also have a 1st, SF's 2nd (in the top 10-15), and 3rd next year. It's not like Clark cost them an entire draft.

They also have UDFAs...whom would probably like a chance to play with Mahomes.

Dee Ford got $33 million guaranteed/$17 per/$85 million...the #28 pick is $10 million guaranteed, the #60-ish 2nd is $4 million. So essentially Clark cost $16 million more (guaranteed) than keeping everything as is...and $3-4 million more a year than Ford.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14224741)

You do realize there's a sweet spot between undercompensation and overcompensation, right? It's one thing if it feels just a touch off. But on each of those deals I mentioned Cp felt we were WAY off market value. It's amazing that we're all suddenly praising these past deals. Several of those deals were very controversial here. Again, if the market asks for $100, does it make you a great negotiator because you pay $500?

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14224747)

You've no idea what market value was.

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 14224649)

I'm watching the full Broncos/Seahawks 2018 game. Most of the time, Clark is singled up on either Bolles or Heuerman and isn't getting anywhere. He got one sack on a well-designed stunt.