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Jamie 02-24-2021 01:13 PM

They could actually do it after June 1st. That cap room could be used to sign draft picks.

wachashi 02-24-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15562653)
See above, they have basically already used their two June 1 options on Jeffery and Jackson

Kelce is going to be an Eagle

The author of the article I linked acknowledged that and still presented Kelce as a potential trade candidate after June 1. Not sure?

htismaqe 02-24-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15562729)
They could actually do it after June 1st. That cap room could be used to sign draft picks.

The Chiefs aren't waiting until June to address the center position. It will be one of the first things they do when free agency starts I would imagine, unless they're targeting someone in the draft. Even then, it will be done by early May.

Chris Meck 02-24-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15562600)
Cutting Kelce would create $10M in dead cap money from what I understand. I don't think it's likely they let him go.

I really don't understand the fascination with Kelce.

I mean people do understand he's not TRAVIS Kelce, right?

I mean what the ****?

DaneMcCloud 02-24-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15562729)
They could actually do it after June 1st. That cap room could be used to sign draft picks.

They would have paid him $3 million in bonuses by June 1st, making their Dead Cap hit to release him at more than $10 million.

If they plan to release him, it'll need to happen before the new league year begins in March.

htismaqe 02-24-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15563347)
They would have paid him $3 million in bonuses by June 1st, making their Dead Cap hit to release him at more than $10 million.

If they plan to release him, it'll need to happen before the new league year begins in March.

Which they can't do because the dead money would be too high. They've already used their June 1st designations.

Kelce ain't going anywhere.

Red Dawg 02-24-2021 08:14 PM

Willie Roaf is not walking through that door. GET A DAMN LT YOU MUGGER SCRATCHER!

DaneMcCloud 02-24-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15563349)
Which they can't do because the dead money would be too high. They've already used their June 1st designations.

Kelce ain't going anywhere.

Exactly.

Even though I despise PFF and think it's completely worthless, Austin Reiter graded out one point higher than Kelce, which is hilarious to me considering that so many people on CP (wrongfully) think that Reiter "sucks".

LMAO

BossChief 02-24-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15563353)
Exactly.

Even though I despise PFF and think it's completely worthless, Austin Reiter graded out one point higher than Kelce, which is hilarious to me considering that so many people on CP (wrongfully) think that Reiter "sucks".

LMAO

Reiter is a good pass blocking center, but is worthless as a run blocker.

Pitt Gorilla 02-24-2021 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15563353)
Exactly.

Even though I despise PFF and think it's completely worthless, Austin Reiter graded out one point higher than Kelce, which is hilarious to me considering that so many people on CP (wrongfully) think that Reiter "sucks".

LMAO

Reiter is a good center for KC. Even Chief Fan understands that.

htismaqe 02-24-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15563351)
Willie Roaf is not walking through that door. GET A DAMN LT YOU MUGGER SCRATCHER!

They currently have a left tackle, his name is Eric Fisher.

Jamie 02-24-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15562750)
The Chiefs aren't waiting until June to address the center position. It will be one of the first things they do when free agency starts I would imagine, unless they're targeting someone in the draft. Even then, it will be done by early May.

They can agree to a trade now, and consummate it after June 1st.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15563347)
They would have paid him $3 million in bonuses by June 1st, making their Dead Cap hit to release him at more than $10 million.

If they plan to release him, it'll need to happen before the new league year begins in March.

I'm not pretending I'm a cap expert or anything, but based on OTC and Sportrac that just isn't true.

First of all, the $10 million in bonuses are guaranteed and the Eagles will have to eat the cap charge no matter what. The only difference is cutting or trading Kelce after June 1st would allow them to spread it out over this year ($3 million) and next year ($7 million).

Kelce's bonus is prorated over three void years at the end of the contract, so that will accelerate when the contract ends even if they keep him. The only thing the Eagles can get out of is Kelce's 2021 base salary of $5.5 million. Basically the Eagles have three options:

1. Keep Kelce. Cap hits - 2021: $8.4 million; 2022: $7.2 million (dead)
2. Cut Kelce now - 2021: $10.1 million; 2022: $0
3. Cut Kelce after June 1 - 2021: $2.9 million; 2022: $7.2 million (dead)

So if Kelce is insistent that he'll retire rather than play for the Eagles in 2021, they don't really have a lot of incentive to keep him.

htismaqe 02-24-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15563426)
They can agree to a trade now, and consummate it after June 1st.

So that he can miss all of OTA's with his new team?

It isn't happening.

Jamie 02-24-2021 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15563429)
So that he can miss all of OTA's with his new team?

It isn't happening.

He's a three-time All Pro who has played most of his career in Reid's system, and would be in for all of training camp. And anyway, are we even having OTAs? I'm sure he can catch up on whatever Zoom meetings he misses.

Wilson8 02-25-2021 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15562264)
Okwara for $6.5 million a season? Sign me the **** up for that.

Edge Romeo Okwara - PFF 3 years $19.5 million ($10 million guaranteed) from PFF

BUT...

Spotrac.com says market value is 3 years $30.3 million ($10.1 million average)

He is 25 years old and 6-4, 263. He had 44 tackles with 10 sacks last year. I'd love to sign him up as a Chief, but $10 million per year might be out of our CAP room.


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