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Jakemall 09-03-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9935644)
That's a load of horseshit, as proven by the drastic change in offensive attack once Kaepernick was the QB. All of a sudden we weren't throwing it to the back anymore and heaving bombs down field to our "sub par receivers".

Throwing it to the back? could you please clarify what you mean by this before I dismantle your comment?

Alex Smiff 09-03-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9935230)
Can we just say it is what it is?

Alex Smith, has never been a down the field passer.

So why is it a surprise that if it wasn't Vernon Davis that he missed them?

Now, factor in everything. The weather. Remember how wet and sloppy and windy it was?

Not excuses. Alex Smith does not have a true deep ball arm, everyone knows that. Factor in his limited work with Kyle Williams as a receiver, factor in the defense he was facing.

is it really that shocking that Alex Smith missed some deep passes?

I wasn't shocked.

I will never say that Alex Smith didn't leave plays on the field, he did. But to EVER be able to place blame on HIM for that game, that's not something I will do.

It was a team failure.

Things we know about Alex Smith prior to the start of this season.

Alex Smith doesn't like to take chances. he throws to open guys. That's why his completion percentage is what it is. That's why his rating is what it is.

Alex Smith has proven to be clutch the past two years. If we can at least agree on that, then I think we can move forward, leave his San Francisco past, in the past, and focus on his Chiefs future.

Kaep is better than Alex, but Alex isn't dog shit. He just wont go out of his comfortability.

You're making far too many excuses for his play in that game. You are the QB. You are playing for a chance to play for the Super Bowl. MAKE A DAMN PLAY! He was downright atrocious on 3rd down because he was afraid to make a play. Who wants a QB like that? It wasn't his lack of deep ball. It was his inability to even attempt a pass past 5 yards to anyone not named Vernon Davis. I have never seen a QB play that way in such an important game. He was completely fine with throwing the ball away and letting the special teams/defense take over.

He needs to be more agressive and stop playing like a pussy. He plays as if he's afraid of making a mistake. That mentality is holding him back. I hope for Chiefs fans that Andy knocks that out of him or you will be so frustrated watching him leave plays on the field.

Alex Smiff 09-03-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9935642)
I see a couple of people have commented on your post in general already, so I won't repeat anything...but...

Pretty sure I pointed out the fact that the RBs averaged nearly a full yard better with Alex under center compared to Kaep.

Maybe losing Kendal Hunter had something to do with that, smart guy? The scheme was different as well.

You're terrible.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:41 PM

I'm gonna give it 4 weeks before all these Smith fans start blaming Bowe and the offensive line. LOL.

Alex Smiff 09-03-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9935642)

You COULD make a fairly strong case that the 9ers might have been better off with Alex for the remainder of the 2012 season. I think Kaep will be a special player, but I don't think he completely eclipsed Alex last season. I think he will this season. If for no other reason than the offensive talent has been improving every year since 2011. What's more is that even if he's just equal to Alex, he has more value to the 9ers because he's 1 younger, 2 cheaper and 3 more charismatic.

More garbage from you. I can speculate just like you could. If Alex is playing in 2012 we don't even make it past Green Bay and you would be blaming everyone but him for his lackluster performance.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9935645)
Throwing it to the back? could you please clarify what you mean by this before I dismantle your comment?

Smith had a 70% completion rate and 7.9 YPA.

Kaepernick had a 62% completion rate and 8.2 YPA.

That tells us that, once Kaepernick took over, the entire passing game changed and the 49ers started throwing it down field a whole lot more, which disproves MacIdiot's assertion that we "played it safe by design due to subpar talent". The fact of the matter is, Kaepernick had balls letting it fly, and Smith did not.

Alex Smiff 09-03-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9935649)
I'm gonna give it 4 weeks before all these Smith fans start blaming Bowe and the offensive line. LOL.

I have the excuses ready to go:

1. He needs time to adjust to the playbook
2. Bowe is overrated
3. Charles can't block
4. Reid is not calling the right plays
5. The D isn't good enough
6. His shoulder!

I've seen em all.

ViperVisor 09-03-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9935644)
That's a load of horseshit, as proven by the drastic change in offensive attack once Kaepernick was the QB. All of a sudden they weren't throwing it to the back anymore and heaving bombs down field to the "sub par receivers".

That did Not happen.

What are you imagining happened?

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9935651)
More garbage from you. I can speculate just like you could. If Alex is playing in 2012 we don't even make it past Green Bay and you would be blaming everyone but him for his lackluster performance.

The 49ers beat the Packers week 1 in 2012, on the road. With boring, safe play and Alex Smith.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9935648)
Maybe losing Kendal Hunter had something to do with that, smart guy? The scheme was different as well.

You're terrible.

He forgot to mention Kaepernick's 6.6 YPR versus Smith's 4.3, and how the read option might just have played a part in QB rushing and RB rushing. I've seen it for 8 years, these clowns are king of the cherrypickers.

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9935657)
That did Not happen.

What are you imagining happened?

Are you ****in' serious dude?

Sandy Vagina 09-03-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9935653)
Smith had a 70% completion rate and 7.9 YPA.

Kaepernick had a 62% completion rate and 8.2 YPA.

That tells us that, once Kaepernick took over, the entire passing game changed and the 49ers started throwing it down field a whole lot more, which disproves MacIdiot's assertion that we "played it safe by design due to subpar talent". The fact of the matter is, Kaepernick had balls letting it fly, and Smith did not.

You sure are showing yourself as all emotional over this stuff... how sad is that?

So Kaep has slightly higher YPA and that means he was throwing to his WRs where Smith wasn't? No, not buying that. Alex had his WRs involved just fine last season... but he didn't neglect VD the way Kaep did.

This Kaep vs Smith argument has no real place here, and everyone pretty well spoke highly of Kaep as a QB. So I really don't get what your problem is... and certainly don't get why you are even here. Who are you? From what SF forum did you crawl out from?

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9935656)
I have the excuses ready to go:

1. He needs time to adjust to the playbook
2. Bowe is overrated
3. Charles can't block
4. Reid is not calling the right plays
5. The D isn't good enough
6. His shoulder!

I've seen em all.

Remember how much they whined about Crabtree? Boy, they're gonna HATE Bowe.

kcxiv 09-03-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LowExpectations (Post 9935649)
I'm gonna give it 4 weeks before all these Smith fans start blaming Bowe and the offensive line. LOL.

That's not gonna happen. Chiefs fans have woken up. If Smith struggle's they will boo his ass. The fans are restless.

I think most fans have finally realized that you need a ****ing qb to do any damage in the league.

Sandy Vagina 09-03-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smiff (Post 9935656)
I have the excuses ready to go:

1. He needs time to adjust to the playbook
2. Bowe is overrated
3. Charles can't block
4. Reid is not calling the right plays
5. The D isn't good enough
6. His shoulder!

I've seen em all.

... and you will see them again for Kaepernick. I already have, and it's from preseason and last season.

Bottom line is that when you like a QB? "excuses" turn into legit causation.

... and when you do not like a QB? legit causation becomes "excuses."

LowExpectations 09-03-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9935661)
You sure are showing yourself as all emotional over this stuff... how sad is that?

So Kaep has slightly higher YPA and that means he was throwing to his WRs where Smith wasn't? No, not buying that. Alex had his WRs involved just fine last season... but he didn't neglect VD the way Kaep did.

This Kaep vs Smith argument has no real place here, and everyone pretty well spoke highly of Kaep as a QB. So I really don't get what your problem is... and certainly don't get why you are even here. Who are you? From what SF forum did you crawl out from?

Why are you ignoring the point here? The difference in completion percentage and YPA shows a clear difference in how the 49ers attacked defenses through the air. That was the whole point, doofus. Kaepernick threw it deeper, and Smith threw it shorter. What aren't you getting here?


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