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DJ's left nut 02-24-2025 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17978454)
I feel like the 2nd round DEs in this class are all better prospects than FAU was and the DT class is unreal.

yeah - there are probably a dozen DL that are likely to go in the 2nd or 3rd that I'd have taken over FAU.

I wasn't high on FAU, but the DL class is that good.

I think we'll hear more and more about it being a special class as draft season progresses. We do NOT want to be chasing OT in this draft, fellas -- it's just not the time.

Overpay for Robinson if you need to. Sign Humphries if you have to. Pray that Jackson hits the market if you have God's ear.

But don't go nuts chasing a LT prospect -- this ain't the class to do it. The pure talent isn't there and the opportunity cost would be ENORMOUS. I mean the idea of trading our 1st and 2nd to go up for someone like Conerly at the cost of Scourton and Deone Walker just makes me throw up in my mouth.

We could set this DL up for a half-decade if we get things right this year. Let's do THAT.

Easy 6 02-24-2025 05:42 PM

If you can't gimme Armstead or Jackson, just bring back Humphries for a duel with Suamataia and company

Either go big, or trust more in your scouts and coaches

TEX 02-24-2025 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17978025)
That’s fair.

If the Chiefs don’t sign him, he’s clearly a worthless piece of shit who belongs in prison.

Yes!

Balto 02-24-2025 06:07 PM

Really gonna be a fun combine/pro day OT off season! Wish the Combine would hurry up and start!

RunKC 02-24-2025 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17978457)
yeah - there are probably a dozen DL that are likely to go in the 2nd or 3rd that I'd have taken over FAU.

I wasn't high on FAU, but the DL class is that good.

I think we'll hear more and more about it being a special class as draft season progresses. We do NOT want to be chasing OT in this draft, fellas -- it's just not the time.

Overpay for Robinson if you need to. Sign Humphries if you have to. Pray that Jackson hits the market if you have God's ear.

But don't go nuts chasing a LT prospect -- this ain't the class to do it. The pure talent isn't there and the opportunity cost would be ENORMOUS. I mean the idea of trading our 1st and 2nd to go up for someone like Conerly at the cost of Scourton and Deone Walker just makes me throw up in my mouth.

We could set this DL up for a half-decade if we get things right this year. Let's do THAT.

Yeah. I don’t see how you draft a project tackle over this kind of prospect.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nic Scourton is well-rounded edge prospect.<br><br>He’s 6’4, 285lbs yet moves incredibly well and is known for his signature spin move. He’s also one of the better run defenders in this class.<br><br>78 pressures and 12 sacks in the last 2 seasons at Purdue and Texas A&amp;M. Top 50 player. <a href="https://t.co/FNFSnptJWC">pic.twitter.com/FNFSnptJWC</a></p>&mdash; NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DF/status/1888653946258125288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Or this…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon DT Derrick Harmon <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BuildingTheBoard?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BuildingTheBoard</a><br><br>Harmon spent three years at Michigan State where he was a solid run stopper (81.1 PFF grade vs the run) but wasn&#39;t much of a factor as a pass rusher. Before the 2024 season he transfered to Oregon and completely transformed his body and… <a href="https://t.co/XshQVDXon1">pic.twitter.com/XshQVDXon1</a></p>&mdash; Chicago Football Connection (@CFCBears) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFCBears/status/1893085380829700536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Feels like 2016 when we got Chris Jones, which was also a loaded DL class.

staylor26 02-24-2025 07:06 PM

Love Scourton and Harmon, just don't think they make it to us.

kccrow 02-24-2025 07:13 PM

There's a legit chance both of those guys are top 20 players. I'm not going to hold out hope for either, especially Scourton. But eh, strange things happen and I could be wrong.

Hell, I'd be happy as **** with Tuimoloau and Walker or some near combination.

duncan_idaho 02-24-2025 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17978457)
yeah - there are probably a dozen DL that are likely to go in the 2nd or 3rd that I'd have taken over FAU.

I wasn't high on FAU, but the DL class is that good.

I think we'll hear more and more about it being a special class as draft season progresses. We do NOT want to be chasing OT in this draft, fellas -- it's just not the time.

Overpay for Robinson if you need to. Sign Humphries if you have to. Pray that Jackson hits the market if you have God's ear.

But don't go nuts chasing a LT prospect -- this ain't the class to do it. The pure talent isn't there and the opportunity cost would be ENORMOUS. I mean the idea of trading our 1st and 2nd to go up for someone like Conerly at the cost of Scourton and Deone Walker just makes me throw up in my mouth.

We could set this DL up for a half-decade if we get things right this year. Let's do THAT.

Agree on the DL class.

You can try to hit a longshot HR on an OT ... or you can dip into the DL (or even double-dip in the first two days).

It's a pretty easy call.

RunKC 02-24-2025 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17978566)
Love Scourton and Harmon, just don't think they make it to us.

Are we sure one of them won’t fall? I mean look at this DL class man.

Abdul Carter
Mason Graham
Jalon Walker
Mike Green
Walter Nolen
Shemar Stewart
Mykel Williams

That’s 7 before including James Pearce (should go rd 1 despite off field stuff).

Scourton and Harmon make that 10. It’s gonna be close

kccrow 02-24-2025 07:33 PM

I feel Shemar Stewart, man the production just doesn't meet the potential. Maybe if he just permanently bumps down inside he'll be alot more productive. Mykel Williams, I feel the same but to a slightly lesser extent.

Harmon and Scourton just seemed to flash more pure disruption than both of those guys for me.

DJ's left nut 02-24-2025 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17978575)
There's a legit chance both of those guys are top 20 players. I'm not going to hold out hope for either, especially Scourton. But eh, strange things happen and I could be wrong.

Hell, I'd be happy as **** with Tuimoloau and Walker or some near combination.

Harmon feels pretty likely to me.

Flip the odds on Scourton and you won't be too far off, IMO. 2-1 against on Scourton; slightly worse than 40/60. 2-1 in favor on Harmon; slightly better than 60/40.

Fun with stupid combined probability games says there's about a 75% chance ONE of them ends up available to is at that point.

But hey, I could live with Williams and Walker just fine...

DJ's left nut 02-24-2025 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17978580)
Are we sure one of them won’t fall? I mean look at this DL class man.

Abdul Carter
Mason Graham
Jalon Walker
Mike Green
Walter Nolen
Shemar Stewart
Mykel Williams

That’s 7 before including James Pearce (should go rd 1 despite off field stuff).

Scourton and Harmon make that 10. It’s gonna be close

Stewart would be the most likely of that group to slide. And I think Pearce still goes top 15 - the talent is LOUD.

Stewart and Walker. Or Willams and Sanders. Or Harmon and Princely. Or Grant and Tuimoloau.

There are literally dozens of double dip scenarios that aren't incredibly unlikely and could all fundamentally transform our DL.

RunKC 02-24-2025 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17978603)
Stewart would be the most likely of that group to slide. And I think Pearce still goes top 15 - the talent is LOUD.

Stewart and Walker. Or Willams and Sanders. Or Harmon and Princely. Or Grant and Tuimoloau.

There are literally dozens of double dip scenarios that aren't incredibly unlikely and could all fundamentally transform our DL.

I’ve also seen Donovan Ezeiruaku in the mix there too. It’s a really stacked class.

And objectively our 3 biggest problems were LT, offensive playmakers and pass rush. LT seems like it’s not worth it this year, Worthy and Rice help the playmaker issue as well as a strong RB class and the pass rush.

I’m not sure living off of Spags blitzes is sustainable long term. Great at it but man you can only blitz so many ways before teams can see it enough.

We should probably double down in rd 1 and 3. Chris is gonna start aging soon and if we draft well enough we could be in a position to not pay Karlaftis if he wants elite money.

Chris Meck 02-24-2025 08:40 PM

Man.

The more I look at the DL class, the more I just hope KC goes and grabs Alaric Jackson and double dips at DT and DE in the first two rounds.

Totally worth it.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-24-2025 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17978630)
Man.

The more I look at the DL class, the more I just hope KC goes and grabs Alaric Jackson and double dips at DT and DE in the first two rounds.

Totally worth it.

Rams sure didn’t regret it last year…


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