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High and behind; I mentioned that one earlier.

That would have been a difficult catch to make but we argue that Smith needs to throw it up for Bowe to do his thing and he didn't there. I'd like to see Alex place that one a foot lower and have Bowe actually catch it in the future.

EDIT: A foot lower *and out in front. That's a classic Casselian throw. He barely even has a chance to make that catch. He DEFINITELY has no chance of racking up any YAC.

We desperately need better WRs.

If they can't even be counted on to make the easy catches like that its time to move on.

Alex needs better support.

Yes, I said no such thing.

It's not an easy catch. But it's a catch I'd expect Bowe to make, and in that situation especially.

Unless #52 has a ****ing six foot vertical he's not intercepting shit.

While the blame does fall on the receivers for plenty of the drops they've had, there's something about mediocre and shitty QBs that seems to make them hard to catch. I have a theory its because they're so inconsistent in how they throw that the receivers can't build up any muscle memory to catch it. They're either having to reach, catch a bullet on a 2 yard out where a soft throw is all that's needed, or focus so much on finding where the ****ing ball is that when Smith puts it right on the money they're not expecting it and without the muscle memory their hands don't clamp down on it instinctively.

No wonder people all of a sudden dont think Bowe is a #1 receiver with the acquisition of Alex Smith.

Bullshit throws like that are now "expected" to be caught.

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WTF are you talking about? If that ball is any lower 52 has a pick 6

On the road at a division rival who were are currently in battle with for the division title, yeah, I'd expect my best wr to make catches like that.

Bowe is 8 yards behind him, jumping, fully extended and just barely touches it... But ya, clearly it would have been a pick 6 if it was even so much as 6 inches lower.

You sir are reeruned.

Alex put that ball where only Bowe could catch it. Just a qucik ? who did you want QBing the chiefs in 2013? Don't say a rookie cause Reid didn't want one.

The ball would have had to have been at Bowe's feet for 52 to have been in a spot to catch it. Maybe if he leads him more and throws it lower 52 could have gotten to it, but I doubt it.

It was a high throw that didn't have to be that high.

We go from talking about a shit ass pass to who I wanted to be the QB?

You should get that ADD checked out.

Stick to reposting twitter feeds.

No answer then? just keep bitching about Alex.

Don't worry, I wont. He gives anyone all the ammunition they will ever need.

IIRC, I don't think he could have led him much because of a safety there. But it's a high throw.

I think he threw it behind Bowe because if he led him he would have hit the overhead camera.

Someone with the pinpoint accuracy of Alex Smith doesn't Cassel a ball.

That ball should have been caught by Bowe, but yet here Bowe is again doing what he has done his entire career: drop the ball in crucial moments.

Alex played his best game of the season on Sunday and his receivers let him down.

The Avery pass was a perfect deep pass. That pass to Bowe hit his hands.
And goddamnit I love Charles, but JFC that screen that he dropped at the 5 yard line was HUGE. That was a TD if he catches that.

Our receivers catch the balls the balls that they should have and Alex Smith has 3 TD's, 300 passing yards and a possible win.

This game was on our receivers ****ing it all up, not Alex.

Where do you people come up with this shit?

3 TDs? Where are you getting your information? The only pass that was dropped in the endzone was by Charles right before he dropped the screen. Both of those drops were big when they happened but were rendered null and void when that drive was capped by a TD to Bowe.

That was a shit pass but bowe could have got it.

Alex has the accuracy of cassel.

When Alex throws a TD it should count for 1.5 since he does it so infrequently.

On pace for 26 this year!

You are right my bad. I got the drives mixed up. The horrible Charles screen drop was null because Bowe got the TD. Thought it was on the next drive where Charles got stuffed.

Point still stands. Receivers were the biggest problem. From fumbling the ball to dropping several balls that should have been caught.

This.

Now, that comment says something about your character. Have an nice day.

Would love to see someone have the guts to gif up the 30+ yarder on the sideline from Alex to Bowe. Another one that Bowe dropped... a 5 yard holding call was called against the defender going against Fasano.. but if Bowe catches this, we decline that hold and get the yardage. Why you no make star catches for a star receiver, Bowe?

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Clearly if that ball is thrown any lower the defensive line would have had an easy pick 6.

Alex Smith is another manager who is so afraid of making a mistake, he will never make a play. Despite the drops, you still have to look at the fact he was well under 50% completion for the game. He also took 3 sacks. Even if he threw for 300 yards, on 45 attempts that only 6.66 yards per attempt.

If his WR's could catch or consistently get open, he would be better.

Receivers look worse than Alex. Especially DMC

Show the one on the sidelines he dropped and stop trying to cherry pick

The other end is to compare him to Brady, Manning. That one kills me.

Over the course of the whole season, Alex is a much bigger problem.

He is just reverting to form. He was always a shitty QB. Harbaugh hid him well in SF by limiting his attempts, though.

Accept that he must go, and soon, for us to move forward.

objectivity...clay has no use for objectivity

I stopped there.

There is no 'we' here. You're a fan of a single guy on a team. You're a scum 49ers fan first and foremost; and want to act like you're on our side because you slurp Alex.

They both look pretty awful.

One position is supposed to elevate the play of those around them.

Curious which one that is.

You ****ers are funny. All you ever say throw the ball down the field and let Bowe go get it.

All he needs to do is give him a chance. Well he did that and look what happened.

If a receiver can touch the ball in the NFL he needs to catch it.

Damn, that is high school ball.

How the **** does a QB elevate the play of his receivers if they can't catch ****ing balls.

Bowe got two hands on the ball he should have made the catch period.

Man, double standard much?????????

two fingertips now equals two hands LMAO

I guarantee Bowe would tell you he should have made that catch. ROFL

When receivers on the Packers or Saints drop a ball you think "that sucks, they blew an opportunity, but [Brees, Rodgers] will make that throw again."

When a KC receiver drops a ball you think "Oh crap, that was our one downfield shot this game and we blew it. Game over."

Alex is an inaccurate QB. That's supposed to be one of his strong suits. And it isn't this year.

He's inconsistent from throw to throw and didn't do his part early on in the year to build any sort of chemistry with his WR's. He still isn't. He had some good throws in the Denver game, but spent plenty of time throwing swing passes and check-downs the rest of the game.

He's just as much of a problem as the WR's, except he's supposed to be the leader of this team and elevate the play of the offense.

If this offense performs; he will get credit. They are floundering, and he is getting his due ridicule.

This as well. Our margin of error is incredibly low because we have a QB and system in place that won't throw down field.

If those down field opportunities go wasted by the fault of Alex or the WR; then we're just going to have to watch check downs the rest of the game because it's wired into Alex's brain to not take any more risks if they didn't work the first time.

I agree.
Just so long as there is acknowledgement that the receivers share some of the blame.

Can we win a Super Bowl with Dwayne Bowe starting?

Yes.

Can we win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith starting?

Nope.

You are incorrect sir, sorry.

Teams win Super Bowls.

And The Chiefs can win a SB with AS. Sorry, But the Donkey Game actually left me feeling really good.

A couple of plays go the other way and Chiefs win.

I still think the we win the division. Yeah I'm nuts right.

Wut...

I'm an optimist.

I felt really good about our defense forcing Manning into 3 and out's in the second half; and holding the highest scoring offense in NFL history to 27 points.

What didn't make me feel good was watching an inept offense, led by a veteran QB shit down their legs time and time again.

Our offense was exposed by a pretty poor Broncos defense.

How long have you been a Chiefs fan?

Exactly. This needs to be repeated. This is exactly why nobody says much about Peyton Manning passes being dropped. Even though Manning's receivers have dropped more than Alex Smith's receivers. With good QBs, a drop is essentially inconsequential. When you have Alex Smith, one dropped pass feels like the end of the world because everyone watching knows that it likely won't be attempted again.

So then we dissect it and post gifs and argue and make excuses both ways and assign blame. Because there's so few of these passes, we think up reasoning for it like Alex not trusting the WRs, or the playcalling being overly conservative. We get to the chicken or the egg conundrum. When in reality, our WRs don't really drop it any more than any other teams. We just throw downfield so little that we place infinitely more importance on it than other fans have to.

Apparently not long enough to stop feeling the need to punish myself.

So this season or longer?

oh way longer than this season.

Fixed. No long-time Chiefs fan is an optimist.

doesn't mean yall have to be a rude pussy about it...

Wow. Dude I feel really sorry for you. It must suck to go through life like that.

It takes just a much energy to happy as it does to be pissed.

Maybe when you grow up a little you will understand.

Stop trying to tell us about our ****ing team.

We are CHIEFS fans; you're an ALEX SMITH fan. Do you not see the issue here?

Tell all of CP more about the 'we' and 'us'.

Did you enjoy last year's team? The most awful season in franchise history.

Oh, that's right. You didn't watch it.

Niners fans feelings about how Chiefs fans should view their franchise are ****ing worthless.

Yet it was last year... so maybe just maybe the receivers are not running their routes as required? Maybe the QB and receivers need to work longer together to get better in sync. Accurate QBs don't just suddenly become inaccurate. Tom Brady was in the 63 and 65 percent in the prior years.. and now he is 58 percent... so did he suddenly become inaccurate as well? Or maybe his targets are young and shitty?

Think, muther****er!!! :doh!:

Your thoughts and opinions don't matter.

They might just be... but that doesn't make them any less true. Some of you are being butthurt little bitter pussies... don't get mad at me for pointing out that obvious fact. Even some of the better posters and long-time CP-ers feel that way about you. So clearly, THEY have tough-skin and are mature adults... take a lesson, bitch.

English as a 2nd language? I understand. :thumb:

The issue... is that instead of dealing with the actual topic, you need to assault others that are simply positive, mature people. It doesn't matter what team you are most a fan of. I have been a Cubs fan for many years, and I don't act like a whiny child because they forever suck.

Some people are built for endurance, and some fold like cheap tents. Do you really want to be a weak, crumbled tent?

Way to completely avoid the topic and truth of it. May as well stick your fingers in your ears and cry out lalalalallallaalalal...

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Oh irony. Pack sand niner fan. :shake:

No I don't. I am an Alex Smith fan, but also a Chiefs fan the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

And I have screamed "WTF ALEX SMITH" more times than I can count, but JFC there are 53 men a roster for a reason.

You guys cherry pick plays and say look he sucks and oh every QB have receivers drop passes. Well BULLSHIT, not one ****ing receiver on the squad has made catches that I've seen other QB get the benefit of.

Maybe that is the problem, maybe you should watch other teams as well.

Cause if you are saying that AS has receivers making plays like Jordy Nelson or megatron you are ****ing stoned.

Niners/Cubs/Alex Smith douche.

And we should care about your opinion again, why?

How effective has Jordy Nelson been without Rodgers? As a fantasy owner, I can tell you - not very. Alex Smith is not good as a starting NFL quarterback. Your homerism doesn't change that fact.

So when you can't argue the point and feel thoroughly owned, you just throw out a mindless one-liner like pack sand, and hope that it makes you look okay? Okay... got it.. well done.

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There is no truth here, other than you are a douche that thinks your opinion matters to Chiefs fans because you trailed a QB here like a lost puppy.

Nobody respects dual fans. Nobody give a shit about a guy that roots for SF/CHI/KC markets. It reeks of bandwagon douchiness and you definitely fit the description.

You're not watching other games very much...

ROFL

So you rather waste your day verbally sparring with someone whose opinion you care nothing about? What does this say about you? You haven't put me on ignore AND you keep communicating with me... interesting.

... and no one really cares about anyone's opinion here... not to a level that matters in their every day life. It's not about who is giving the opinion... it's about the opinion itself. Stop personalizing everything and you won't be such a whiny bitch.

If you root for any other team than the Chiefs to win the Superbowl; then you are a garbage Chiefs "fan" and your opinion on our team and fans are useless.

That goes for all of your 49ers trolls that want to tell Chiefs fans, who have endured a miserable franchise their entire life how to feel about their team and QB. While you were cupping Montana and Steve Young's sacks.

**** off Niner scum.

How so?

Hilarious that a member of the fanbase that chanted for David Carr to replace Alice is now calling Chiefs fans "whiny pussies" for not wanting Alice as their quarterback.

I also love comparing Tom Brady's career accuracy to Alex Smith's.

Alex Smith is completing 58 percent of his passes this year. His career completion percentage is 59 percent.

Brady is completing 58 percent of his passes this year. His career completion percentage is 63 percent.

Alex Smith's accuracy the past two years in San Francisco is an extreme outlier for the rest of his career.

Many of the Smith critics expressed doubt that his impressive accuracy numbers from 2011 and 2012 would hold up when asked to throw far more often. So far, that has been the case.

I was a fan of the Chiefs in the offseason while they were 0-0. KC and Cubs bandwagon? LOL! That's really impossible, stupid. Don't know why you would care anyway... you could like dressing up as a trans-testical and taking it up the ass with a wire brush... why should I care? Talk about football aspects, and then someone may give a shit... not about YOU... about the football aspect. :doh!: