He's a dominant-type player at a premium position that is a known NFL quantity and is 25 years old. There is no such thing at #29 in the draft. He should have, at a minimum, 4 years of peak performance barring injury. And guess what? We can get out of the deal by then.

We cleared cap space to be able to make moves like this. The window to be able to do things like this is NOW. In three or four years, we'll have to be thriftier. If you want to win a SB in 2019 and 2020, we needed NFL proven talent, and that costs money.

You've just decided on a narrative, and are casting about to try to fit evidence to that rather than looking at evidence and forming an opinion.

so whats the reason to have the small cap hit this year?

More signings is my guess. If they can carry over some of the cap from this year to cover that massive hit next year that would be nice too.

too little in return? See this is what I'm talking about. You're assuming there was more to be had in the Peters, Ford, or Houston moves. The reality is that there just wasn't. It takes two to negotiate. You're assuming because YOU valued those players highly that the rest of the league did too. The reality is otherwise. But you're emotionally invested in it; they're not.
We got a 2 and a 4 for Peters. If we decided that return was 'not enough' we'd have kept him another year and he walks for a 3.

We got what we could for Ford. You really think anyone else didn't see the flaws we did? You're assuming YOU know what the market is. You don't.

Houston-everyone knew we weren't paying him #22 million. What leverage do you have to negotiate? None. Everyone knew they could just wait and sign him after he was cut. But somehow we should've gotten more!

Berry-nobody's taking that shitshow on. somehow though, DAMIT VEACH!

I've already outlined how Watkins deal looks huge but isn't really what it looks like. Structure and planning is everything.

Your assumption is that YOU know what the market should be. You have no idea what conversations and negotiations are going on between NFL GM's.

We traded the opportunity to acquire essentially one second round talent player this year, and one essentially third round talent player next year to get what is certainly an excellent proven player right now. (oh, and we got an extra 8 slots in this year's third round, too. ) While we're in Mahomes' rookie window. You think that's too much? You're wrong. There were other teams interested. It's what we had to give. Somehow you think there were better deals, but you have no knowledge of any such thing. You're judging shit you have no basis for judging.

I'm done talking to you. It's like arguing with a wall.

Im fine with making an aggressive move. I don't care about the cap charge. I just believe we spent too much and we seem to only get players we want by paying too much. That's better than not trying at all. But let's call it for what it is.

There are a lot of people on cp who were very critical of moves we made the past few years because we paid too much or didn't get enough in return. And now we're suddenly spinning those same deals positively to justify a very comp loaded trade. So who's making the narrative here? Not saying you as I know you've liked a lot of moves we've made. It's just weird to me that I'm being attacked by people who are all of a sudden spinning veach into some kind of consistently great dealmaker.

*whispers Patrick Peterson into a coat sleeve in a closed closet*

yeah, well, a lot of people spout bullshit without knowing what the **** they're talking about. Doesn't make them right.

Good day, sir! I said GOOD DAY.

If you break it down...top 64 picks are coveted because they are cheap. There is also the "new toy" hope psychology vs. hand-me-downs. There is no Hill-like surprise with Clark. Chiefs have money to spend...and they are using it. It appears these deals are purposely staggered with "outs" embedded in them.

Ogbah was the #1 pick in the 2nd round (33)....4 picks later than KC just traded. Why arent people more excited about him and his premier draft status? Draft order is arbitrary...#13 is certainly better than #27, right?...like 14 better.

Chiefs just dumped all their over-priced veterans...and replaced them with younger versions. They are using their cheap QB window..

I dont like the practice of giving up high draft capital...but the purpose of keeping it is so you can afford/offset high end players. Chiefs can now afford them due to Mahomes.

Ah shit. Thanks for the picks but Frank Clark is a freak. I was hoping we could work out a deal but when he didn’t sign the FT tender I knew his time in Seattle was over. Enjoy a 12 sack per year beast.

Thanks Assrocker

Clark instantly makes your pass rush upper echelon

It was #1 in the NFL last year dude.

Weird.

Traded Ford for a 2nd and pick up Frank for a 1st and a 2nd plus play $100m.

Frank is good but not appreciably better than Ford

Defensively the Chiefs looked lousy as a unit but you got Mahomes so he makes up for deficiencies on D.