Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9784877)

There is no good argument in favor of a team not drafting a quarterback for 30 years.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784876)

I think that stats are only part of the equation. I do think that they're important but as you stated, they can be misleading.

So if we're just going to let our eyes be the judge, I'd say that Alex Smith has had a couple of really nice seasons recently and appears to have either put it all together or he's really close to putting it together.

But according to GoChiefs False Narrative (in which he admitted cherry-picking stats in order to promote his point of view), stats are everything. He's formed a narrative in which stats prove that Alex Smith is a bottom-tier QB and he'll continue to be a bottom tier QB, regardless of coaching or scheme.

Personally, I think the truth lies somewhere in between the stats and the eye test. But the quarterback rating, coupled with wins, does tell a pretty compelling story, especially if there are multiple seasons of data available.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784876)

Personally, I think the truth lies somewhere in between the stats and the eye test. But the quarterback rating, coupled with wins, does tell a pretty compelling story, especially if there are multiple seasons of data available.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9784905)

This is likely to be a real problem for some. This eye test must be for those with open minds. Those minds that are already closed with hate and bitterness will always twist what they see to fit their agenda.

So for some, no matter what he does.. it will be picked apart and twisted into failure.

+ Plays flawless? The team carried him.
+ Throws a pass that gets intercepted because Baldwin volley-tips it in the air? QB sucks.
+ Throws a 7 yard slant route completion on 1st down? QB sucks because someone somewhere else was perceived to be open for more yards.
+ QB gets sacked in under 2 seconds? QB sucks because the LG allowed instant penetration up the A gap.
+ QB throws for 17 of 18 with 220 yds and a 2:0 TD/INT ratio, yet they lose 24-23? QB should have done more, so he sucks.

Many fans will likely be fair... but some? No..

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9784905)

Many fans will likely be fair... but some? No..

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9784924)

It's dumbasses like you that fuel the hate.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784864)

The San Diego Chargers, for example, have drafted three quarterbacks since 1998. Ryan Leaf was a bust, Drew Brees never won a playoff game and Philip Rivers (who's on his last legs in that town).

That's two first round QB's in 16 years and another that would be considered a first rounder today (#32 overall). How many championships have they won?

There is more than one way to build a Super Bowl team.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784934)

This forum in no way, shape or form, represents the overall fan base of those living in Kansas City.

In KC, the Smith trade was hailed. On KCChiefs.com, it got something like an 85%+ approval rating. The fans there are psyched. Season ticket sales are up. People are excited.

GoChiefs has created a false narrative and for some reason, people fail to question it and blindly follow it.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784934)

GoChiefs has created a false narrative and for some reason, people fail to question it and blindly follow it.

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9784935)

Well then, that would make you remarkably impressionable.. showing an inability to focus beyond your childlike emotions onto what you should really be drawing conclusions of. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9784937)

Yeah, true story. CP is the only site I have come across that exhibits such a level of hate and hostility towards Alex and the forum members with differing points of view.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9784942)

You are one clueless dumbass.

I know what Alex Smith is.

Your Smith slurpage isn't going to sway my opinion, and those with blind hate are not going to sway it.

The people who already hate him are being given more reasons because you come here to regale us with the glory of his cock in your mouth.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9784946)

Keep in mind, those who "Hate Most" have a history of dumbassery.

Oh sure, GoChiefs likes to pretend that he was "right" about Cassel and Pioli because of 2011 and 2012, but he fails to mention that he wrote articles praising Cassel before he even took a snap, praising Cassel during his dreadful season of 2009 and created threads about Pioli, calling him a "Balla Ass GM".

But he won't talk about those because they are in direct contradiction with the false narrative he's created. And the guy doesn't know a damn about about college football, despite his thoughts on Geno Smith.

He once wrote an article about Brodie Croyle and repeatedly typed the words "Mark Rick" when in reality, Croyle was talking about Georgia head coach, Mark Richt.

I mean, really?

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9785148)

This is not true.

I admit I was wrong all the time. I talk about how embarrassed I am that I was in Cassel's corner so much in 2009.

Of course that's still less embarrassing than thinking he could lead the 2012 Chiefs to a playoff win. DANE.