So is the owner going to fire Maddon if they dont make the playoffs? Or do they have to win the division?


Thats not just sure team. Everytime we face Kendrick our hitters think they are going to hit the longest hime run ever with this 89mph pitch. Then its actually a change up and look like fools. He's 20-5 against us. Dont you learn a ****ing thing from the previous times?


Against the Brewers the pitcher only threw 31% strikes all game and got 14 strikeouts. Yet, when he did throw a strike, we swung 21% of the time. We were swinging at balls bouncing in front of the plate, at their feet etc. it was the most pathetic team AB's I can remember.

Why would they need to fire Maddon? He's a lame duck manager who's contract ends with the Cubs season.

There's no ****ing chance Maddon is back next season and that decision was made a long time ago. The only thing that would have changed that fate would have been another WS.

Theo asked him to be a more hands on manager in the offseason and they are going to have their worst year since his hire. Whatever he has to say to the players they just dont give a **** to listen any more. Maybe it's on the players but when they are on a hot streak and your manager decides 4 starts in a row is too much to handle and they need a day or 2 off to get someone like Daniel Descalso a start it's hard to blame the players for tuning him out. Bryant hinted at how frustrating it was not knowing where he was playing, hitting in the lineup, or even playing at all last season, but "that's just Joe being Joe." Well "Joe being Joe" is going to be looking for a job in a couple weeks.

You shut your whore mouth about Dirty Dan Descalso

Agreed- and hopefully 10+. When Bob Gibson compares Jack to himself, those are bold words. We need an alpha on this team like Chris Carpenter, et al were before him, and hopefully he becomes that.

**** him and the career 1 WAR horse he rode in on!

Y'all realize that over his previous 20 appearances he had an ERA below 2 and a WHIP below 1, right? A 5.5 K/BB rate over that span. His one blown save in that span was that absurdly unlucky Dodgers game.

Carlos Martinez is really ****ing good and the Cardinals fanbase has had a ridiculous and unnecessary hard on for rage-shouting at that guy for years.

Y'all are kinda dumb. Carlos didn't have it yesterday. He may not have it tomorrow. He may end up breaking our hearts in the postseason. But that's baseball.

Trying to argue that he's not a good pitcher or that he hasn't been extremely good as the Cardinals closer is just asinine.

Actually this kind of game seems to sharpen him for a stretch. Carlos Martinez at the back end of our pen is a plus.

Guy was hospitalized a week ago when he couldn't breath. And he couldn't find his command - it happens. And he probably got screwed on that ball over the bag. Goldschmidt was on the line so I have a hard time believing that the ball was fair there.

He wasn't good but even on a bad day you saw that the raw stuff was just absurd. He'll be fine.

Man, Wacha is walking a razor thin line this afternoon. Offense better wake up.

It's time for Cabrera and Helsley.

Wacha's given you all you can reasonably expect/ask of him. 3 innings of 1 run ball while throwing, really, 2 good pitches in the entire appearance. He doesn't have it today.

With expanded rosters, don't leave him out there to give you no chance.

Oh, and how are these slow curves flummoxing everyone like this?

I guess they are gonna try to squeeze in one more inning.

Bringing in Martinez to pitch 3 straight days when Miller was cruising had better not blow this game. Martinez will be needed tomorrow too.

McCarver just went full philfree talking about the look in Martinez's eyes.

I got the damn Cubs broadcast team.

Cubs are done. What happened to the dynasty JD?