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Sassy Squatch 09-17-2020 05:11 PM

McCullough and Bieniemy not too pleased with him at the goal line. Fair criticism.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-helaire-minus

TwistedChief 09-17-2020 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15174195)
McCullough and Bieniemy not too pleased with him at the goal line. Fair criticism.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-helaire-minus

Kid looks like a total bust.... ROFL

Somehow I think he's gonna get that figured out, and let's be clear: it's not as if this team has been a world beater in the red zone with any RB post-Hunt.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15173830)
What jumps out watching the kid is that he is ALWAYS setting up his cut. He pushes the gap for so long that he forces a LB to commit and then reacts to it.

Dude is playing chess.

You don't say...

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quo...-107-77-54.jpg

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15174204)
Kid looks like a total bust.... ROFL

Somehow I think he's gonna get that figured out, and let's be clear: it's not as if this team has been a world beater in the red zone with any RB post-Hunt.

More found it odd they pinned the blame on him. I thought the blocking was total shit.

Megatron96 09-17-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15174204)
Kid looks like a total bust.... ROFL

Somehow I think he's gonna get that figured out, and let's be clear: it's not as if this team has been a world beater in the red zone with any RB post-Hunt.

Well, yes and no. Compared to the Hunt era where the Chiefs were 2nd overall in RZ TD efficiency, in 2019 they were still 11th overall (73%), and over the last 3 games in 2019 they were actually 6th overall, scoring TDs in the RZ about 80% of the time. So the Chiefs even without Hunt have been a top-tier team inside the RZ. And I fully expect that by week 5-7 the Chiefs will be somewhere in the top 5 in that category.

TwistedChief 09-17-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15174267)
Well, yes and no. Compared to the Hunt era where the Chiefs were 2nd overall in RZ TD efficiency, in 2019 they were still 11th overall (73%), and over the last 3 games in 2019 they were actually 6th overall, scoring TDs in the RZ about 80% of the time. So the Chiefs even without Hunt have been a top-tier team inside the RZ. And I fully expect that by week 5-7 the Chiefs will be somewhere in the top 5 in that category.

I probably should've said short yardage. Regarding red zone efficiency, I'm going to quote some different stats, but this is what I was referencing:

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In 2018, the Chiefs led the league in points per red zone trip (5.69) and ranked second in touchdowns per red zone trip (0.718), per Football Outsiders. In 2019, that dropped to 4.84 points per red zone trip, which ranked 16th, and 0.54 touchdowns per red zone trip, which ranked 20th.

Megatron96 09-17-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15174292)
I probably should've said short yardage. Regarding red zone efficiency, I'm going to quote some different stats, but this is what I was referencing:

Okay sure, those goal-line rush attempts have never been a WCO strength, I'll grant you.

Even Thursday night Andy would obviously rather throw the ball as he did with Watkins on that 1-yard flick and dive.

But with KO in there at guard I think we'll see some improvement in that area. Down inside the 5, beef is often the deciding factor and KO has more than his fair share of that.

But I doubt that the Chiefs under Andy are ever going to be truly great at stuffing it in from the 5 or 4 or whatever. It's just not how he builds OLs. Hell, even our FB is a bit undersized for that sort of thing.

But I also think that Andy will figure out how to make the offense pretty darn efficient down there, regardless of how it's actually done.

Deberg_1990 09-20-2020 08:14 PM

Wasn’t as explosive today. But he did get involved in the passing game.

Megatron96 09-20-2020 08:17 PM

He's a rook, and he's trying to be the RB1 on a team with the most complex scheme in the league. He did okay, and he's going to just get better. By week 8 everyone will be jerking off about how great he is.

Hammock Parties 09-20-2020 08:18 PM

just one GIF today

https://i.imgur.com/8vvWhPy.gif

KChiefs1 09-21-2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15182758)


I thought he might get 200yds today after that run.

Dante84 09-21-2020 01:16 AM

The catch they called back was clutch

Perineum Ripper 09-21-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15183359)
The catch they called back was clutch

That was very impressive, was hoping Clay would have that gif in here.

Hammock Parties 09-21-2020 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 15183497)
That was very impressive, was hoping Clay would have that gif in here.

Yeah - EZ angle shows his route the best - real nice.

https://i.imgur.com/RwSgWgY.gif

https://i.imgur.com/EQ7FHfa.gif

Perineum Ripper 09-21-2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15183503)
Yeah - EZ angle shows his route the best - real nice.

https://i.imgur.com/RwSgWgY.gif

https://i.imgur.com/EQ7FHfa.gif

Thank you, enjoy the shit out of your gif skills.


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