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cdcox 09-02-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I was just messin with you a bit...........

There are honestly people on here that will tell you Owens doesn't have HOF stats and a guy like Hines Ward is better and reeruned shit like that. If you personally despite Owens he is a great player, HOF caliber. People have this dillusional idea that a guy who works hard and doesn't say much is better than the guy who speaks his mind and that's just not always the case.

Owens has better stats and is a better talent than Hines Ward, but I'd rather have Ward on my team. I'm pretty sure the 49ers and Eagles would agree with me, and probably about 80% of the rest of the teams in the NFL as well.

tk13 09-02-2006 03:11 PM

What does Kennison have to do to get some respect? How many WR's have back/back 1000 yard seasons right now? Eddie is one of the best big play WR's in the game of football.

Iowanian 09-02-2006 03:12 PM

Instead of his pimp, I'm beginning to think mecca is Chaahles'weed supplier.

RealSNR 09-02-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Uh yea they have.......Irving Fryar ring a bell? Seriously I think the Chiefs have gone the longest of any team without having an elite WR. And recently the Pats have won without a true 1 by having great depth at the position and going 4 deep another thing we can't do.

4000 yards through the air x 3

It's not 3 SB rings, but it's certainly production on offense. Only the Colts have been better throwing the ball in the past 3 years.

Now if only we had a defense...

Mecca 09-02-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
Owens has better stats and is a better talent than Hines Ward, but I'd rather have Ward on my team. I'm pretty sure the 49ers and Eagles would agree with me, and probably about 80% of the rest of the teams in the NFL as well.

Now this isn't an Owens thread but I'll make 1 comment to that. People that think he ruined the 49ers or the Eagles I think don't look at the big picture of what happened. The 49ers were an old team with a crappy QB that had good stats because of Terrell Owens they were heading down the shitter either way.

The Eagles weren't destroyed by Owens either. Their defense carried them to the NFC title games.....it wasn't as good last year and as a team they weren't as good. It doesn't help that And-1 Reid hates running, refuses to draft a real RB and wants to pass 60 times a game.....add in that McNabb is basically a pussy and couldn't handle Owens and let him walk all over him. Then turned around 5 months after Owens is gone then talks about and makes a corny black on black crime line. And if Owens was really that bad why did alot of Eagles players want him back?

I don't think Owens is near the guy he's made out to be by the media and alot of people. He's obviously a great on field player and says what he thinks but I don't think that's the end of the world unless you have alot of fragile ego'd people on your team that can't handle that.....McNabb.

cdcox 09-02-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
What does Kennison have to do to get some respect? How many WR's have back/back 1000 yard seasons right now? Eddie is one of the best big play WR's in the game of football.

I agree. Unfortunately, Kennison is such a late bloomer that his star will probably fade due to age before he gets the recognition he deserves. Same with Trent Green. If both of those guys were 4-5 years younger...

Mecca 09-02-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
What does Kennison have to do to get some respect? How many WR's have back/back 1000 yard seasons right now? Eddie is one of the best big play WR's in the game of football.

Do you really think teams that face the Chiefs look at Eddie Kennison and go......."that guys great we have to cover him or we'll lose". No one is gameplanning for him if anything teams go "lets try and make the Chiefs beat us with their WR's". I'm sure there are people that would argue alot of average NFL WR's could put up stats here due to defenses completely focusing on the RB and TE and him getting single coverage everytime, he's not facing the same kind of defense Chad Johnson is.

cdcox 09-02-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Now this isn't an Owens thread but I'll make 1 comment to that. People that think he ruined the 49ers or the Eagles I think don't look at the big picture of what happened. The 49ers were an old team with a crappy QB that had good stats because of Terrell Owens they were heading down the shitter either way.

The Eagles weren't destroyed by Owens either. Their defense carried them to the NFC title games.....it wasn't as good last year and as a team they weren't as good. It doesn't help that And-1 Reid hates running, refuses to draft a real RB and wants to pass 60 times a game.....add in that McNabb is basically a pussy and couldn't handle Owens and let him walk all over him. Then turned around 5 months after Owens is gone then talks about and makes a corny black on black crime line. And if Owens was really that bad why did alot of Eagles players want him back?

I don't think Owens is near the guy he's made out to be by the media and alot of people. He's obviously a great on field player and says what he thinks but I don't think that's the end of the world unless you have alot of fragile ego'd people on your team that can't handle that.....McNabb.

And this explains why every NFL team was willing to make a block buster deal to land the best WR in football?

Mecca 09-02-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
And this explains why every NFL team was willing to make a block buster deal to land the best WR in football?

Well Owens is on the wrong side of 30, even if he was a model player he wouldn't command alot in the trade market because of his age. Hell Moss got a high pick and he has more issues to me than Owens does.....he's just younger.

cdcox 09-02-2006 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Do you really think teams that face the Chiefs look at Eddie Kennison and go......."that guys great we have to cover him or we'll lose". No one is gameplanning for him if anything teams go "lets try and make the Chiefs beat us with their WR's". I'm sure there are people that would argue alot of average NFL WR's could put up stats here due to defenses completely focusing on the RB and TE and him getting single coverage everytime, he's not facing the same kind of defense Chad Johnson is.

You know, there is not one guy I fear on the Broncos. No one. On the Pats, the only guy I would fear is Brady. But those are two of the TEAMS I would fear the most. In football, it's more about playing as a team than it is about superstars. When they fit in the team concept, they are great to have, can even lift you over the edge to a championship. But without the team working, all the super stars are just so much eye candy.

RealSNR 09-02-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Do you really think teams that face the Chiefs look at Eddie Kennison and go......."that guys great we have to cover him or we'll lose". No one is gameplanning for him if anything teams go "lets try and make the Chiefs beat us with their WR's". I'm sure there are people that would argue alot of average NFL WR's could put up stats here due to defenses completely focusing on the RB and TE and him getting single coverage everytime, he's not facing the same kind of defense Chad Johnson is.

So why is it important that we get all these **** off brilliant receivers?

NJ Chief Fan 09-04-2006 12:44 PM

any news on charles rogers or darius watts?

Brock 09-04-2006 12:51 PM

Unbelievable that such a massive talent went unclaimed by 32 NFL teams. LMAO

patteeu 09-04-2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
Unbelievable that such a massive talent went unclaimed by 32 NFL teams. LMAO

Do you expect him to remain unemployed?

Sure-Oz 09-04-2006 01:49 PM

Someone will pick him up, i think we should atleast give him a shot, after kennison we have almost nothing, the dude was a former 1st rounder, of course that said, if we cut sims other fans would say the same, and he sucks.


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