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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2008 01:04 PM

Threads like this just get me progressively more pissed as the week goes on.

All the guys in here bashing Gholston were pretty much nowhere to be found on Draft Planet, then they mysteriously show up 4 days from the draft, read one scouting report from a hackneyed source, and suddenly they know he's not a fit for a 4-3.

Yet, were they actually to think outside of the LD room for a second, they'd see that Gholston is stronger and faster than Allen, has the same size as Freeney, and is stronger, is a protocockfuckingtypical size for a Cover 2 DE.

I'm growing weary of playing the role of 'tard wrangler.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4706184)
Threads like this just get me progressively more pissed as the week goes on.

All the guys in here bashing Gholston were pretty much nowhere to be found on Draft Planet, then they mysteriously show up 4 days from the draft, read one scouting report from a hackneyed source, and suddenly they know he's not a fit for a 4-3.

Yet, were they actually to think outside of the LD room for a second, they'd see that Gholston is stronger and faster than Allen, has the same size as Freeney, and is stronger, is a protocockfuckingtypical size for a Cover 2 DE.

I'm growing weary of playing the role of 'tard wrangler.

Like the new av.

Has motor, but lacks a motor.

LOL

DaKCMan AP 04-24-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4706184)
Threads like this just get me progressively more pissed as the week goes on.

All the guys in here bashing Gholston were pretty much nowhere to be found on Draft Planet, then they mysteriously show up 4 days from the draft, read one scouting report from a hackneyed source, and suddenly they know he's not a fit for a 4-3.

Yet, were they actually to think outside of the LD room for a second, they'd see that Gholston is stronger and faster than Allen, has the same size as Freeney, and is stronger, is a protocockfuckingtypical size for a Cover 2 DE.

I'm growing weary of playing the role of 'tard wrangler.


Don't bother telling them that he's 2" taller and the same weight as Dwight Freeney out of college. A little slower, but a lot stronger.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706191)
Like the new av.

Has motor, but lacks a motor.

LOL

It just goes to show how accurate those reports were a few years back that said most of our population is functionally illiterate.

El Jefe 04-24-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4706020)
All I am saying is that I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. It almost seems as if there are more people that agree with my stance then yours. But that isn't the point. Is it?????

What have you been smoking? Some on here think he might not warrant a five for our team, but I havent seen anyone say he wasn't a top 10 pick (besides yourself :rolleyes:). But that isn't the point. Is it?????

El Jefe 04-24-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4706184)
Threads like this just get me progressively more pissed as the week goes on.

All the guys in here bashing Gholston were pretty much nowhere to be found on Draft Planet, then they mysteriously show up 4 days from the draft, read one scouting report from a hackneyed source, and suddenly they know he's not a fit for a 4-3.

Yet, were they actually to think outside of the LD room for a second, they'd see that Gholston is stronger and faster than Allen, has the same size as Freeney, and is stronger, is a protocockfuckingtypical size for a Cover 2 DE.

I'm growing weary of playing the role of 'tard wrangler.


QFT brother.

bkkcoh 04-24-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4706225)
What have you been smoking? Some on here think he might not warrant a five for our team, but I havent seen anyone say he wasn't a top 10 pick (besides yourself :rolleyes:). But that isn't the point. Is it?????


If there wasn't a team that was predominately a 3 - 4 defense picking in the top 10, then, IMHO he isn't worthy of a top 10 pick.

SBK 04-24-2008 02:19 PM

I never figured KC would have a shot at Gholston because I was sure Parcells would take him at #1.

Now that he's not gone at #1 I'm really hoping he's there at 5. The only guy I would want more is Dorsey, but I don't see him falling at all.

Chiefmanwillcatch 04-24-2008 02:47 PM

HERM WANTS D-END THAT WILL STOP RUN.

JA wasn't resigned probably because HERM didn't really care for him.

CHRIS LONG!

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefmanwillgetyou (Post 4706547)
HERM WANTS D-END THAT WILL STOP RUN.

JA wasn't resigned probably because HERM didn't really care for him.

CHRIS LONG!

God knows, when the Phoenix Suns traded for Shaq, they did it for his three point shooting ability.

Chiefmanwillcatch 04-24-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4706558)
God knows, when the Phoenix Suns traded for Shaq, they did it for his three point shooting ability.

Stopping the run is key in his schemes.

melbar 04-24-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4705585)
Uhhh NO! Im talking to bkkcoh, we have alread argued about many points over Gholston, he seems to want to bring up the same points over and over again and then wants me to reply like I have to defend myself. Your free to like or dislike whoever you want to, but after you made your point, is there anything for you to gain to continually argue over points that you already made? I could give a rats ass who likes Gholston and who doesn't to be honest, I just get tired of people who bring up the same point over and over and continue to beat the dead horse into the ground. Yes I realize no one is forcing me to read this garbage but it is very annoying from my point of view.

FAir enough. I'm a little sensitive on this subject because I'm personally tired of being cursed at or called an idiot because I dont agree with someone about a particular player. Lets have a discussion thats why we're here.

Basileus777 04-24-2008 06:31 PM

Gholston has the size to play in the 4-3, thats not really an issue. He wasn't the greatest against the run in college, but it wasn't because of his size, he just didn't play the run exceptionally well. I wouldn't really call it a weakness though, he's just inconsistent. He should be able to improve on this. It'd be a bigger concern if we were drafting him to play linebacker.

The question about Gholston is his effort and consistency, his physical tools are out out this world. But you can bring up the same questions of consistency about nearly all defensive line prospects. If everyone talented DE destroyed all the lesser OTs they played in college they would all be racking up 30 sacks a year. In general, trench players have a tendency to take plays off. Chris Long is about the only prospect in recent memory that was highly rated that people didn't feel that way about.

I'd rather have Long, but if we draft Gholston I'd be thrilled.

melbar 04-24-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705632)
I have officially seen it all. A prospects performance against the #1 overall pick and the Michigan Wolverines is less important than what numbers he put up against Youngstown State


YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS

http://www.affordablehousinginstitut...ot_serious.jpg

Seriously, if you cant see the validity of a guy having a good game against a great player and then sucking against players who will be lucky to be drafted and why that is cause for concern, what else can be said?

Chiefnj2 09-28-2009 02:07 PM

Before the Sanchez love-fest, it was Gholston. Who will it be in the 2010 draft??


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