Again, what is there not to follow? If you were swearing in a public place, and the public official, at first, politely told you to stop doing it, and you don't, then you are SUBJECTED to get a ticket, becuase you FAILED to follow his request.

It's not that hard to understand.

And as for disturbing the peace, as I pointed out, Disturbing the peace is a crime generally defined as the unsettling of proper order in a public space through one's actions.

This can include creating loud noise by fighting or challenging to fight, disturbing others by loud and unreasonable noise (including loud music or dog barking), or using offensive words likely to incite violence.


It's not that hard to follow. :shrug:

First of all, I wouldn't have thought a fire marshall can give a ticket for non-fire related things. That seems to be a stupid thing in and of itself.

Would it be different if it were not merely swearing?

No it's not but it's what leads to a slippery slope. And that's hard to understand.

Exactly. I know. That's so vague that it could include saying "fuck" to a group of church goers.

Yes, yes it is. And if you can't see the slope these are on, I'm sorry.

I would've recieved 2 tickets; one for the initial infraction, and one for telling the Fire Marshal to get fucked.

Bothh tickets would've ended up on the ground in pieces. F that.

This is assuming of course, that the lady wasn't asked to leave etc. If it were simply a case of the Fire Marshall approaching me issuing me a ticket for dropping an F bomb, it's a whole 'nother story.

I'm offended by a local Pastor acosting me while I'm mowing my lawn during his door-to-door crusade to inquire about my 'status' betwen God and I etc. I tell him I'm not religious etc, he proceeds to lecture me how I'm going to hell because the inivisible man apparently needs me to go to church on a particular day of the week and give him money.

Next time I need to call the fire marshall and have him ticketed.

Not really. They are sworn in law enforcement. No difference from police officers. If she wasn't swearing, then none of this would even happen, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

How can it be vague if she was being handcuffed in the parking lot, becuase she wouldn't calm down? If I was the fire marshal, I wouldn't take any chances, especially with someone who could be "potentionally" physco.

What the hell of a slope are you harping on? There is no slope, becuase she was committing by either disturbing others by loud and unreasonable noise (including loud music or dog barking), or using offensive words likely to incite violence.

Seems to be clear cut to me.

There was a time or two when I was younger, when Someone asked me to refrain from speaking a certain way, or using colorful adjectives, because of kids, or their own offense.

My response was to realise what I'd done, appologise and curb the behavior out of respect.

That's not my point. Should you concede to a public official - say fire marshall - when politically protesting?



You continue to miss the point. It's more than this instance. It's about future instances. It's about the law and how vague it is. And how there isn't a law that gives people the right NOT to be offended.

I see now. I'm talking about the big picture. You are still stuck on this one case.

There is no doubt that she should have and could have done this.

Doesn't happen that way often, Mr. Iowanian, for such a response requires character - a trait that is all too rare in these dark times.

By the way, did you read about the important, new Sasquatch discovery and related unveiling scheduled for tomorrow? What do you think?

FAX

By way of another by the way, does anyone have an answer to my question regarding the rights of a property owner and presumed offensive speech? I'm actually and sincerely curious about this.

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Yes they can remove you for speech. It's along the same lines as a dress code. Actually I'm pretty sure you can be thrown out of a store for anything other than something like race or gender.

Have you SEEN Ben Franklin's mullet?

http://www.nyu.edu/public.affairs/im...Franklin-2.jpg

That's true.
But only for those of us who have decided to be straight.

:D

Check out the history of legal precedents about this very thing.





Poor, deprived generation.

I feel badly (really) that our youth honestly do not know what it was like in an era of greater respect and more diligent observance of common decency.

You're a big reason for that, unless respect and common decency includes going around falsely spouting how superior you are.