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BigChiefFan 01-09-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5372501)
one could say the same thing about you. YOUR only seeing what you want to see.... And your arguement is Bogus...

No. I see an accurate as Hell QB. The MOST ACCURATE in all of college football and the FACTS, support that. I also like Stafford and Sanchez, and have said so many times on this board. I'm wondering what I stated that makes you think what I said was bogus.

jspchief 01-09-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 5372504)
In the right situation I think Tebow will be a productive QB in the NFL.

In the right situation, Tebow might someday be a productive QB in the NFL.

If my team already had their franchise QB, and had the draft pick to burn, I'd love to have Tebow as my 2nd string QB. Give him a few years to develop QBing skills, and in the meantime you have a guy that can come in on select packages, and would be a nightmare for defenses in the short term role of spelling your injured starting QB.

The guy has everything that makes a pro athlete. That being said, he's nowhere close to being a pro QB.

DJ's left nut 01-09-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5372516)
btw ...... Bradford won't stay in school and probably shouldn't

apparently he's gonna lose his entire offensive line and next year the sooners quarterback is gonna get raped.

Don't you know that's the mark of a good pro quarterback.

The ability to get gangraped and make mediocre throws is what separates the true prospects from guys that need 3 seconds to make perfect throws (mere system QBs of course).

Bradford should stay, so he can show all the scouts that he knows how to make off balanced throws while running for his life, that's what you need in an NFL QB these days.

Brock 01-09-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 5372528)
In the right situation, Tebow might someday be a productive QB in the NFL.

If my team already had their franchise QB, and had the draft pick to burn, I'd love to have Tebow as my 2nd string QB. Give him a few years to develop QBing skills, and in the meantime you have a guy that can come in on select packages, and would be a nightmare for defenses in the short term role of spelling your injured starting QB.

The guy has everything that makes a pro athlete. That being said, he's nowhere close to being a pro QB.

Agree 100 percent, just no way he should be drafted highly.

jspchief 01-09-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5372519)
Which is part of the reason he should go back to school. The only QB who has a chance to play from the get go, IMO, is Stafford because he's played a few years.

But almost all of the "cons" for Bradford aren't going to be dispelled with another year at Oklahoma.

DJ's left nut 01-09-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 5372528)
In the right situation, Tebow might someday be a productive QB in the NFL.

If my team already had their franchise QB, and had the draft pick to burn, I'd love to have Tebow as my 2nd string QB. Give him a few years to develop QBing skills, and in the meantime you have a guy that can come in on select packages, and would be a nightmare for defenses in the short term role of spelling your injured starting QB.

The guy has everything that makes a pro athlete. That being said, he's nowhere close to being a pro QB.

If Tebow's around in the 3rd I take him without thinking twice. He's a guy that will absolutely contribute somehow in the NFL.

However, he won't be there in the 3rd. If he gets those kinds of readings from the draft reports, he'll just return to CFB, he's a mortal lock for the Heisman next season if he does.

Baby Lee 01-09-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5372507)
This....

Even the Gameday Crew said whomever drafts Bradford will have to be patient, Bradford is going to have a HUGE learning curve, going from a spread, look to the sideline for his binky, to learning how to read a defense and call audibles...

Rerun, standing on the shoulders of mental midgets to delve new depths of stupidity.

Chiefnj2 01-09-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 5372536)
But almost all of the "cons" for Bradford aren't going to be dispelled with another year at Oklahoma.

Playing from a spread probably won't change, but other things may. Losing the left side of his line will probably mean he will face more pressure and have to throw the ball under more durress and quicker. Maybe he gets some power to audible every so often and run a real hurry up offense.

Not many teams in the NFL have the luxary of grabbing a QB in the top 5 and waiting at least a year before the guy gets some playing time and then slowly develop him.

El Jefe 01-09-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5372519)
Which is part of the reason he should go back to school. The only QB who has a chance to play from the get go, IMO, is Stafford because he's played a few years.

Some people said the same thing about Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. A point can be made for both thoughts. I personally like Bradford, I'm not in love with him, but wouldn't be sad if he played for the Chiefs.

smittysbar 01-09-2009 10:48 AM

I just hope all three come out

Chiefnj2 01-09-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 5372558)
Some people said the same thing about Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. A point can be made for both thoughts. I personally like Bradford, I'm not in love with him, but wouldn't be sad if he played for the Chiefs.

Ryan and Flacco both stayed their senior years. They had a lot of starts.

I honestly don't know the answer to this question but how many successful NFL QB's started only one year and came out early (Sanchez)? Bradford has two years starting experience but is on a really short leash.

It would be a miracle for them to come out and be able to play their first year.

patteeu 01-09-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 5372405)
Please stop with the Tebow stuff. The guy is a god in college football, but what he does in college at QB does not translate to the NFL.

Draft Tebow in the 2nd round. Sign Vick out of Leavenworth (or wherever he is now). Line up those two and Thigpen in the backfield on every play and let the defenses guess which one is going to take the snap and we're golden!

Yes, it's a joke.

patteeu 01-09-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5372519)
Which is part of the reason he should go back to school. The only QB who has a chance to play from the get go, IMO, is Stafford because he's played a few years.

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5372516)
btw ...... Bradford won't stay in school and probably shouldn't

apparently he's gonna lose his entire offensive line and next year the sooners quarterback is gonna get raped.

Bradford will be a top 10 pick so he should bolt while the bolting is good.

Laz makes a lot more sense to me. Why should Bradford care whether he's going to play from the get go or not? The only reason that would matter is if it's going to cause him to be drafted significantly lower than he could with one more year of seasoning at the college level. If he's going in the top 10 now, there's no good reason to wait. Look what happened to Matt Leinart. He left millions of dollars on the table by staying in school and if he'd have had a severe injury that last year it could have been much more.

Chiefnj2 01-09-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 5372606)
Laz makes a lot more sense to me. Why should Bradford care whether he's going to play from the get go or not? The only reason that would matter is if it's going to cause him to be drafted significantly lower than he could with one more year of seasoning at the college level. If he's going in the top 10 now, there's no good reason to wait. Look what happened to Matt Leinart. He left millions of dollars on the table by staying in school and if he'd have had a severe injury that last year it could have been much more.

I guess the question is, is he really going to go in the top 10? Assume you are KC and/or Detroit. Bradford comes in for a workout and displays poor foot skills because he's taken 90% of his drops from shotgun and needs a lot of work on reading defenses, adjusting, etc. You know it is very likely that he won't step on the field for 1 1/2 years. Are you going to spend that draft pick and all that money on him?

patteeu 01-09-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5372615)
I guess the question is, is he really going to go in the top 10? Assume you are KC and/or Detroit. Bradford comes in for a workout and displays poor foot skills because he's taken 90% of his drops from shotgun and needs a lot of work on reading defenses, adjusting, etc. You know it is very likely that he won't step on the field for 1 1/2 years. Are you going to spend that draft pick and all that money on him?

I agree that that's the question.


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