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What's with the Thigpen fixation? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202158)

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 5477312)

I'll play Huckelberry.

Tough. Name the last ime the chiefs had healthy starter for eight games, let
alone a season. willing to block, willing to go for the qb draw on the goal. Strong arm, quick release.

Mobile. faster than he looks..runs for first downs, scrambles, throws well on the run.

Accurate. Bowe dropped alot of balls, yet still he and Tony had good seasons. this is the key area..as noted by zach, no OTA's, no TC..to deny this time with Wr's isn't vital is insane.

Adversity. this is huge for me...TG said he doesn't get down after a bad play...he ran the two minute drill pretty decent..the Jet's gaem comes to mind...

Smart. coming off the bench at number three and even scoring is positve. makes good decisions, needs work on reads etc...practice makes perfect

Cheifs...came into a cluster**** rebuild under Herm Edwards. Nuff said.

What I don't get is almost everyone on this board knew and expected to be pretty bad this last year, and then use the very thing they thought would happen and then flip it with high standards and then complain why someone isn't producing at a high level in his first gig on the fly.

Thank you for taking the time to point out his apparent strengths. I respect that.

Now, on the flip side of that...

Do you agree that his weaknesses far outweigh his strengths?

And that those weaknesses may never be corrected because of the system he played in college?

Finally, do you see Tyler Thigpen having the potential to be a SB winning QB?

Because again, that's the goal.

Guys like Stafford and Sanchez are going to be drafted high because scout feel they have that potential.

Thigpen was taken in the 7th round.

(go ahead, someone break out the Tom Brady one-in-a-million scenario)

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5477350)

Ill roll with whatever decision Pioli makes.

This is what I agree with.

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477346)

that the line is equally as important, if not more important than the QB?

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Tell that to Ben Rothlisberger.

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477332)

well, Trent Green was pretty good, but when he had to start playing behind a weak line, he also turned to shit.

He was also in his mid-30's, for **** sake.

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477344)

Because, contrary to your post people ARE saying he can't improve. Me? Not impressed with this years QB class. I would at least have some hope for Stafford but Sanchez is more overhyped USC bust action just waiting in the wings.

How many times did you watch Sanchez? On what authority do you have it that he'll be a "bust"?

Please, share.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477347)

No Mr. Sauto, they won't.

There's no way in the world that Sanchez or Stafford become Akili Smith or Cade McNown.

No. Way.

come on dane you are the guy who just said huard had a career game against the broncos(21-28 160 yards 1 td) so please forgive me for not trusting you on this one.:D
any draft pick can bust. i'm all for sanchez being a chief but if we stay with thigpen i wont cry about it

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477355)

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Tell that to Ben Rothlisberger.

Well, Ben Roethlisberger basically IS a lineman, so he doesn't really need anyone to block for him.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477348)

He'll be shitty just like Carson Palmer.

Is that a guarantee?

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477346)

that the line is equally as important, if not more important than the QB?

Every aspect of the game is critical; football is the ultimate team sport.

But you can't claim that anything is more important than the QB. Say this aloud: "I'd rather have Willie Roaf than Peyton Manning." Did you hear how that sounded?

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477357)

He was also in his mid-30's, for **** sake.

Yeah? I was just answering about a good QB who played behind a shit line.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5477362)

Is that a guarantee?

He's more like Palmer than he is Leinart so if someone is going to compare him to another QB from the school atleast use the right one..

Leinarts arm is nothing compared to Palmer and Sanchez.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477335)

Not physically.

Yup. Leinert was only a good prospect for a short-passing game, sort of West Coast offense team. His arm was not all that impressive.

Sanchez has the skillset to fit in many offenses.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477363)

reeruned?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477339)

I knew that the Chiefs would be lucky to win more than three games in 2008 and said as much last April. While Thigpen's play greatly improved once the spread was implemented, his completion percentage in each game decreased dramatically as each game wore on.

In other words, he got worse, not better. He's not an accurate passer and doesn't particularly have a strong arm. If I were the new GM or coach, there's no way I'd pass on a possible franchise QB in Stafford or Sanchez because Thigpen was already on the roster.

I'm not advocating that the Chiefs cut him altogether. He may improve and learn how to quickly read defenses behind center but, I wouldn't take that bet.

of course it did, they had to throw together an offense, and had limited plays..coupled with the fact with crappy second halftime adjustments..what did you expect..you alreeady claimed they suck yet the the guy threw for 2k in eight games. on a limited game plan and had the chiefs competitive in most games.

And they threw together that offense because of Tyler Thigpen.