Apparently you don't understand the value of positions, good to know that.

Who the **** cares where the Cards played him.

They drafted him to play LT, and when they finally did play him at LT they thought enough of him to let him hit the FA market.

He's the kind of safe pick you jizz your pants over.

And the pro bowl means exactly jack.

Oh, oh, oh, we can play him at guard if he can't play LT!

JFC, you are one stupid mother****er.

He's either just trying to be annoying or he's really stupid, I'm not sure which.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of "bust." Nobody is discussing positional value and it wasn't even mentioned in the discussion until you brought it up, and it has absolutely zero relevance in this exchange. I mean, seriously - WTF? Who gives a rats ass what position he plays? The initial impetus for this was that someone stated a moronic generalization that all Texas players suck. I pointed out that he's from Texas, was in the Pro Bowl, so it's at least obvious to other players in the NFL, who I think know a little bit more about the game and the qualities that separate a good player from one that is a bust than you, that he isn't a bust and is considered, at least by his peers (who probably don't give a flying **** about the opinions of some internet football junkie who is so pigheaded that he can't get beyond the whole initial "But he was drafted #2 so he HAS to play LT or I will consider him a completely worthless player and a bust even though he did go to the Pro Bowl" concept).

A top 5 player that plays guard is a bust, why don't you just take a center with the 1st pick then if positions don't matter, hey take a kicker!

This offseason has really brought out the complete dipshits.

but yet a guy like Joey Harrington isn't a bust because he is still a backup QB in this league?

I wouldn't exactly call him good, he's not Akili Smith bad but he wasn't a good pick or anything like that.

OK, I'm just trying to figure this out.

A guy who was drafted to be a LT, but has turned into an All Pro guard is a bust, but a guy who was drafted to be a franchise QB but has turned out to be a career backup who has been on 4 different teams you just "wouldn't exactly call good."

Niether one of them were good picks how hard is this to understand?

Does everyones brain just ****ing fall out during draft season? This semantic arguing game is getting really ****ing annoying really ****ing fast. So knock it the **** off and talk like you have a god damn brain.

He made the Pro Bowl as a GUARD. He wasn't DRAFTED as a guard.

And yes, it does matter.

Well, of course, that's a no-brainer. But we are talking about drafting a QB in this thread, so...

It's a losing battle...

You may be the dumbest person on this board. Seriously. Did you just talk to someone in the Cardinals organization and they specifically told you that they drafted him to be a LT? Because, it seems to me, that if you are drafted to play LT, then you play LT. However, Davis played GUARD for not only his first season in the league with the team that drafted him, but also his second and third. That would indicate that *gasp* they drafted him to play guard, since that's what they exactly did.

Not at the #2 spot. Guards, quality guards can be found deep into the draft. I wouldn't have drafted him at the #2 spot to play guard. Cardinals apparently did though. If it works you up this much, perhaps you should call some one in their organization and see if you can't get a satisfactory explanation on their reasoning behind the pick. I'd hate to see you get an ulcer or something over this.

So, you think that if a guy gets voted to the Pro Bowl in his eighth season of playing football in the league, who has started every game he's played in, a vote by his peers no less, that that means exactly jack? Yeah, I guess the players don't know shit, and we should take the word of some internet dildo who thinks that you can still be an eighth year pro, get voted to the Pro Bowl and still be a bust. Thanks for clearing that up for us Milk. You da man!

This must be a case of the classic euphemism "Takes one to know one."

You first.

Htis, you usually have a little more sense and rationality than the rest of these people. If the Cardinals played him at guard his rookie, as well as subsequent seasons, wouldn't that indicate that he was drafted to play at guard?

But regardless of the draft position issue, if a guy is an eighth year player who has started every game of his career and has made the Pro Bowl, does that equate to a "bust?" Yes or no?