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SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6365299)
Totally agree. Offense is all about consistency and rhythm and when you have a patchwork O-Line and WR's dropping balls every other pass it is hard to do either. But Matt needs to work on his accuracy as well and I hope he throws all off-season to improve it.

oh and just for you dirk, 5 or 6 of those drops would have been either a first down or a td. just like you said the other day
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Mecca 12-20-2009 07:35 PM

Trent Green was never as wildly inconsistent as Cassel is, he threw a ton of picks that first year because he threw to the proper spot and the WR wasn't there...Cassel's mistakes aren't like that.

Green was an accurate passer, Cassel is not.

SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365315)
Trent Green was never as wildly inconsistent as Cassel is, he threw a ton of picks that first year because he threw to the proper spot and the WR wasn't there...Cassel's mistakes aren't like that.

Green was an accurate passer, Cassel is not.

how do you know they were to the proper spot? were you in on the playcalling and practices back then?
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Brock 12-20-2009 07:37 PM

I never saw Green throw a pass that looked like a punt.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-20-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6365264)
I wonder what Milkman would say to Dawson being categorized as a "game manager"? MM actually lived and watched games in that era. It's very possible I could be wrong, but I'm going to go ahead and say that someone would be getting a new asshole or 3 for Christmas this year.

If you ask most fans from that era, they feel that Dawson was largely the beneficiary of the best WR in the game at the time. And most would say that Otis Taylor should have been in the HOF long before Len Dawson. The difference is that Len Dawson wasn't a loud mouth proud black man.

Mecca 12-20-2009 07:37 PM

Oh for the love of christ, nevermind.

Talking to Jason is seriously like trying to reason with my friends 1 year old.

dirk digler 12-20-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 6365311)
Absolutely he does. Same was said about Trent Green after his first season.

If Haley does the same thing to the WR Corp next season that he did this season, I will rip my hair out. They need to re-sign Chris Chambers and sign a slot WR early. Other than that, get the F'n O Line set as early as possible in the offseason.

Consistency is ABSOLUTE KEY this offseason.
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Yep totally agree. Last year Cassel had 63% accuracy this year it is 54%. Which one is the real Matt Cassel? Time will only tell.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6365312)
oh and just for you dirk, 5 or 6 of those drops would have been either a first down or a td. just like you said the other day
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Yeah when I heard after the game that coming out of the 3rd quarter they had 3 straight 3 and outs caused by drops on 3rd down that would have resulted in 1st downs I immediately thought of OTW. I got a little chuckle over that.

Mecca 12-20-2009 07:39 PM

And Green worked with WR's far worse than this shit we have now.

I'm sorry Bowe and Chambers are both light years better than Eddie Kennison.

DeezNutz 12-20-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6365322)
how do you know they were to the proper spot? were you in on the playcalling and practices back then?
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Because we have the benefit of knowing the entire trajectory of Green's career and understanding the offensive system he was asked to command. He didn't develop as a Chief.

He was an accurate passer. Period.

Cassel is not.

doomy3 12-20-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365330)
And Green worked with WR's far worse than this shit we have now.

I'm sorry Bowe and Chambers are both light years better than Eddie Kennison.

But at least he had an offseason and the season to work with them. We are playing musical chairs at the WR position.

TRR 12-20-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6365325)
I never saw Green throw a pass that looked like a punt.

I saw plenty of wobbling ducks by Trent Green.

It's hilarious how people are NOW going back on TrINT Green and saying it was ALL the WR's fault for not running the right routes. What a crock of shit.

Most on this board were ready to hang Green from a pole after a season and a half.
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Pablo 12-20-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365310)
Most of the guys responsible for that shit aren't a part of this teams future, Cassel is. It seems like a waste of time to bitch about guys that we know are going to be replaced.

Yeah, well then I'll bitch about Bowe being good ol' stone-hands today, or the coaching staff deciding to throw O'Connell and Vrabel out there instead of Cottam and Studebaker.

Clancy Pendergast deserves the brunt of Chief's fan collective wrath more than anyone. And our ST coach. ****ing buffoons.

Matt Cassel doesn't deserve a pat on the back and high-fives because he did what was expected of him. He made plays. He orchestrated the offense for the most part. He made some good throws. He made some bad throws. He was definitely more of a positive impact on the field than a negative...which is a vastly different story from the last two weeks.

I'm not saying he played flawlessly today; and even if he would have, we still would have lost. That's how bad our team is. I'm fairly confident Cassel could have went 29/31 and never made any bad throws and we'd still lose it because apparently Jerome Harrison borrowed Jim Brown's jockstrap before the game. It's ****ing sickening.

TRR 12-20-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6365330)
And Green worked with WR's far worse than this shit we have now.

I'm sorry Bowe and Chambers are both light years better than Eddie Kennison.

Gonzalez was definitely not a weapon for Trent Green.
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SAUTO 12-20-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6365336)
Because we have the benefit of knowing the entire trajectory of Green's career and understanding the offensive system he was asked to command. He didn't develop as a Chief.

He was an accurate passer. Period.

Cassel is not.

goox answer and thanks for actually having something to say. what i will say to that is we know that NOW IN HINDSIGHT. correct?
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DeezNutz 12-20-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6365337)
But at least he had an offseason and the season to work with them. We are playing musical chairs at the WR position.

And, in Cassel's defense, shoving scrubs like Lance ****ing Long down his throat.

It would help if our HC wasn't dumb as ****, no question.


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