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milkman 03-21-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6622683)
Sure bet that's fact. Just like the Colts wanted to go bigger right?



We'll see about your comparison. I'm pretty sure you only feel that way b/c he is from Iowa though.

I've never argued that point on Lilja, so just shut the hell up.

The motivation issues were always the sticking point on Richardson in every ****ing scouting report going into that draft, and Herman ****ing Edwards made mention of those reports when the Chiefs selected him, if I recall correctly.

aturnis 03-21-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6622684)
The fact that this guy thinks that drafting Calloway in the fourth round tells me he's as clueless as Clathan in a whorehouse.

Really. A right tackle who is physical and as consistent as they come. Solid against the pass and punishing against the run. Not to mention his versatility to play 3 line positions. Fact is, he may be gone before he ever even gets to our 4th rounder. The only hope he falls is that he got himself an O'dub a summer or two ago. Something a large percentage of rural farm kids can say for themselves, so for me, it's a non issue. You are crack smokers. Bet you maybe watch 2 Iowa games as well.

aturnis 03-21-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6622690)
I've never argued that point on Lilja, so just shut the hell up.

The motivation issues were always the sticking point on Richardson in every ****ing scouting report going into that draft, and Herman ****ing Edwards made mention of those reports when the Chiefs selected him, if I recall correctly.

Sorry just using you and your comrades dirty tactics against you. Yes, I do recall the desire issue very well. Just not convinced that that's it. How much motivation will it take him to stand up and get in someones way? He doesn't even get vertical by the time he's blow by.

milkman 03-21-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6622696)
Really. A right tackle who is physical and as consistent as they come. Solid against the pass and punishing against the run. Not to mention his versatility to play 3 line positions. Fact is, he may be gone before he ever even gets to our 4th rounder. The only hope he falls is that he got himself an O'dub a summer or two ago. Something a large percentage of rural farm kids can say for themselves, so for me, it's a non issue. You are crack smokers. Bet you maybe watch 2 Iowa games as well.

I don't have to watch a lot of games to see that Bulaga has slow feet, though I believe I saw at least parts of five games.

milkman 03-21-2010 08:38 PM

And ftr, Richardson has appeared in 16 games, at both LT and RT, in two years with the Chiefs and has not given up a sack, which in no way supports your claim that he can't even get out of his stance before he gets blown by.

You, my friend, are full of shit.

aturnis 03-21-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6622774)
And ftr, Richardson has appeared in 16 games, at both LT and RT, in two years with the Chiefs and has not given up a sack, which in no way supports your claim that he can't even get out of his stance before he gets blown by.

You, my friend, are full of shit.

I'll give you that. Last year he played 77 passing snaps. Gave up 2 hits, 2 pressures and 1 penalty. No sacks though, you are right. He didn't grade out to well though, maybe better than No'Cal, but that's not the point I'm arguing either.

I hope you are right. I really do, I would really like to see a good offense again. It's just not the way I see it playing out. We can only hope though.

aturnis 03-21-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6622727)
I don't have to watch a lot of games to see that Bulaga has slow feet, though I believe I saw at least parts of five games.

Who said anything about Bulaga. I really hope the Chiefs don't draft him. I liked Bulaga's replacement while he was out early the year better anyway. Riley Reiff is a rs fresh who stepped in and owned that LT position while Bulaga was down.

Chiefaholic 03-21-2010 09:04 PM

I'm all for drafting OL in the draft, just not before the 3rd round. Our first three picks need to address playmakers who have the ability to change the outcome of a game. There'll be plenty of starter qualith C's and G's that will be available in the 3rd to 5th rounds. I'de draft Center at 3 to take Weig's spot in the very near future (possibly midseason). Then look for a guard to replace Waters in the next year or two in the 4th. If Brown lives up to his potential we'll have quality depth at the position unless Lilja doesn't pan out. Then in the 5th surely there'll be a RT on the board (possibly swap out with the guard in the 4th)

milkman 03-21-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6622917)
Who said anything about Bulaga. I really hope the Chiefs don't draft him. I liked Bulaga's replacement while he was out early the year better anyway. Riley Reiff is a rs fresh who stepped in and owned that LT position while Bulaga was down.

Mean't Calloway.

Mecca 03-21-2010 09:11 PM

Kyle Calloway is like a 5th rounder, mid 5th rounder.

aturnis 03-21-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 6622923)
I'm all for drafting OL in the draft, just not before the 3rd round. Our first three picks need to address playmakers who have the ability to change the outcome of a game. There'll be plenty of starter qualith C's and G's that will be available in the 3rd to 5th rounds. I'de draft Center at 3 to take Weig's spot in the very near future (possibly midseason). Then look for a guard to replace Waters in the next year or two in the 4th. If Brown lives up to his potential we'll have quality depth at the position unless Lilja doesn't pan out. Then in the 5th surely there'll be a RT on the board (possibly swap out with the guard in the 4th)

I think the switch to zone blocking helps Brown quite a bit. There is a reason he wasn't on the previous regimes scouting radar. He played in a spread. I'm sure the new regime knew in which direction they were heading at all times.

aturnis 03-21-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6622961)
Kyle Calloway is like a 5th rounder, mid 5th rounder.

Then I'll take him there. The only reason I can see him falling that low is b/c of the OWI and deep defensive draft though.

Titty Meat 03-21-2010 09:22 PM

So aturnis you're whole reasoning for Calloway being better than Washington is because you've seen Calloway play?

Fairplay 03-21-2010 09:33 PM

So this thread has been up all day.

What is the conicencious of what you got out of all the participants of your article suggest?

aturnis 03-21-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6623018)
So aturnis you're whole reasoning for Calloway being better than Washington is because you've seen Calloway play?

No my whole reason for other people know not what they are talking about is they haven't seen him play and don't like the idea of an Iowa olineman partly b/c Iowa isn't sexy, and now moreso than ever b/c of the Ferentz/Pioli connection. If he's taken, it'll be a good ole boys connection pick and not a solid one.

Washington was considered a 3rd or 4th round pick just last month, but you climb on that "potential" bandwagon.


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