I cannot believe this poll. Anyone that doesn't want Ben is WeTawdid.

Swap firsts with the steelers and you have a reasonable deal IMO.

Before considering a trade for Ruthlessraper, he should put him through rigorous and intense psychological testing.

Sexual deviancy isn't something that's likely to go away anytime soon.

And for the record, I seriously can't believe some of the people that would trade for this human piece of dogshit. You must not know a ****ing thing about his personal life or believe that a person can actually be a drunk ****ing asshole and still be a good QB.

If the Chiefs traded for him, I wouldn't watch them or support them until he was gone.

**** him.

+ 1

Jared hasn't changed much?

Hmmm, a difference of opinion between Dane and Mecca.

Does this make this a 50-50 proposition?

What can you tell us about his personal life aside from the reports from the women who have accused him of sexual assault?

I voted no. Too much baggage and he seems to have a problem with women telling him no.

Two Super Bowl wins, youngest ever QB to win a Super Bowl... Should pass on him till more of a sure thing comes around. That 5th pick could be used on the o-line doncha know?

Umm....

The guy bullheadedly refused to wear a helmet when riding a bike and did so only when he was near death.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. There seems to be consistency in some of the charges and not even all the girls are actually pressing charges or demanding attention. Seems like Big Ben's a big fan of just randomly whipping his dick out and stalking girls.

Big Ben had a picture taken years ago hammered off his ass with a "Drink like a champion today" shirt, which has become pretty famous on the net. Pretty significant, since it seems like most incidents have involved drinking. And pretty creepy behavior that followed. But I suppose lacerations of the vagina, that's pretty normal shit.

And then there's this. You're being charged for rape in Vegas. Maybe it's a BS case, which is how most people interpreted it. But you have to be a ****ing idiot to be under that kind of scrutiny, and then have a night orchestrated around getting girls publicly drunk and then having bodyguard's protect a bathroom while Big Ben has sex in it.

It's not so much the personal behavior as much as it is his complete lack of common sense.

Is he Mike Tyson or Kobe Bryant?

We don't know.

Leaning towards Tyson. Kobe only had 1 incident I think Ben is on #3

Great comparison.

I've mentioned this in various threads but he parties in Vegas 10x as often as LJ ever did. The security ALWAYS has to keep an eye on him because he constantly plays 'grab ass" with the waitresses and has a tendency to get extremely drunk, which leads to even shittier behavior. As I mentioned earlier, I've got a very good friend I've known for more than 25 years that's involved in the club scene there and has several friends that have a shit-ton of dirt on Ruthlessraper.

He's got the biggest, puffiest, moon-drunk face ever. If you look strictly at his face, he's got the face of an alcoholic.

I know more about the Tahoe incident but I'm not going to share. There are certain people in the forum that are convinced that she's a nutjob, regardless of what I've been told directly by people that worked with her.

Yup.

If he's a member of the Chiefs, lots of things to worry about:
-Will he stop drinking? I doubt it
-Will he do something stupid? Probably, given that he didn't listen to anybody about riding his bike, let alone without a helmet. And given that I'm sure the team warned him about these kinds of behaviors to women as well as his reputation for drinking like crazy, and he clearly didn't listen
-Will he be blamed in the future? I would think so. Even if he's a choir boy from here on out, he's a moving target and you wonder if women looking for attention will target Big Ben, which will be a major distraction
-The Andrea McNulty case isn't over--who knows if this is a future distraction or even if he's found guilty

If he ends up on the Chiefs, I'd of course root for him. I just want to win. But I think there's a pretty enormous potential for him being a major distraction wherever he goes.