Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6719183)

Didn't you also say that we were going to take an OT at #5?

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719176)

My argument all along has been that Weis' feelings had absolutely no bearing in how we drafted. Pioli would draft who he wanted. That seems to be the case.

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719165)

You must not remember how you, OtWP, Dane, Mecca, etc. all gave me so much shit leading up to the draft because I said there was no way we'd draft Clausen. Nobody knew at that point that we'd actually pass up on him twice. I was called a true fan, an idiot, whatever else. Point is, we didn't take him. I don't want to take it to the point of "I was right, you were wrong", but I did take a lot of shit for saying what ultimately happened.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6719192)

Well you nailed that one. Because that's exactly what I think happened.

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719189)

Not once. I made a song as a joke, but I thought all along the pick would be Berry or a trade down.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6719199)

We should take Clausen at #5.

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719176)

My argument all along has been that Weis' feelings had absolutely no bearing in how we drafted. Pioli would draft who he wanted. That seems to be the case.

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6719171)

You're taking this stuff way to personal. The way Hamas worded his post read like Weis gave his approval after they drafted him. I can see how it can be interpeted either way (that Mortensen reported it right afterward). I took it the other way.

That said, I'm not saying that it's bullshit that Mortenson reported it or even questioning that it happened. What I'm saying is bullshit is that the Clausen ball washers are trying to make more out of it than what it is. Especially by trying to say that it is evidence that Pioli doesn't listen to Weis. You have absolutely no proof of that.

Just because he told that to Fox doesn't mean he advocated that we take Clausen at five, or even at 36. You are not privvy to those conversations. As I said, this report is in no way an indication of the Pioli/Haley/Weis dynamic. To suggest so is utter bullshit, IMHO.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6719177)

I'd like to you link the post in question. You've made a claim, now back it up.

I don't recall ANYONE expecting us to take Clausen. My guess is that you were given shit for dismissing either the possibility of drafting him, or attempting to claim he's a shitty prospect.

I'll wait for those posts, with links to the threads they came from, so we can establish context.

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6719208)

LMAO Pest has the best picture of Cassel. He looks a little helpless, and reeruned. I imagine that's the look on his face for the duration of every game.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6719205)

You have zero evidence of that. Zero.

And IMHO it's silly to think that Weis' opinions had "no bearing" on how the Chiefs drafted. I'm sure his opinions were factored in along with everyone else's (scouts, Haley's, etc.)

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6719206)

I'm not taking anything personal.

But feel free to continue to claim you have a clue you know what I'm thinking.

Like I've said before, find some posts of mine complaining we passed on Clausen from the weekend.

I've been over it since the minute we passed. I'm more upset we passed on solid starters at LB for the players we took.

I'm just enjoying the troll do his work.

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6719225)

I'm not claiming to know what you're thinking. I'm repeating my initial thoughts which appear to have been misintrepeted by you and others who seem to want to suggest that I'm saying something other than what I am.

Please go back and read my initial post and you will see what I think. Who cares what he told Fox. It's not relevant to our draft and it absolutely doesn't prove anything about Pioli and Weis. Unless something in the way of real proof comes to light those who want to make that claim are trying to paint their own picture.

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719214)

Obviously not, since it's being said that Weis insisted that we draft Clausen and we didn't. That in itself is telling.

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6719214)

Obviously not, since it's being said that Weis insisted that we draft Clausen and we didn't. That in itself is telling.