Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6884033)

Just because you personally didn't tell them you wanted it doesn't mean others did not. They don't just put something in the marketplace and start advertising and selling it without someone telling them they want it.

Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6884033)

Just because you personally didn't tell them you wanted it doesn't mean others did not. They don't just put something in the marketplace and start advertising and selling it without someone telling them they want it.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884040)

So you're telling me 50 years ago Americans only wanted healthy food, and then they just suddenly started wanting unhealthy food?

Bull ****ing shit.

Unhealthy food became more plentiful, easier to get and was promoted more.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884034)

Well, some people are fairly open to suggestion and can be swayed easily.

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 6884045)

There's nothing much to sway. Your appetite already exists.

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6884038)

See, even for guys that go to the gym regularly, BMI isn't TOO far off. It's not totally accurate, but hardly anything that's generalizable is. For instance, if I let my diet go a bit and don't stay shredded, my BMI creeps up into overweight. But if I stay at a very low body fat, I can keep all my muscle mass and still be considered "normal" bodyweight, albeit at the higher end.

Part of the problem for guys who work out is that they think they need to weigh more than they actually do to maintain muscle mass or be "big." As for what that means for BMI, if the gov't is going to use it in some calculations, then there needs to be an exemption for people who teeter on the normal/overweight boundary pending a doctor's exam.

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 6884042)

Exactly. Enough people order Extra Cheese and the folks over at pizza hut got to thinking "you know people love cheese, how can this help us increase sales?" Then after a bunch of crap ideas that no one would like, someone says "what if we put cheese IN the crust?"

If you like pizza and you like cheese, simple addition would assume that you'll like pizza with cheese baked into the crust. Just because you never thought of having it doesn't mean you don't already have a desire for it.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884027)

We're talking about a specific type of food, though.

It's like stuffed-crust pizza. Before I knew about stuffed-crust pizza, I had no desire for it. It never thought to myself, I want some pizza with cheese stuffed in the crust. I never thought to myself, this pizza would be so much better if it's crust was stuffed with cheese.

The thought never entered my head.

Then pizza hut started advertising pizza with CHEESE STUFFED INTO THE CRUST!!!!!!!!!

I had to ****ing have it.

And so I started eating even more fattening and caloric-ridden slices of pizza.

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6884038)

See, even for guys that go to the gym regularly, BMI isn't TOO far off. It's not totally accurate, but hardly anything that's generalizable is. For instance, if I let my diet go a bit and don't stay shredded, my BMI creeps up into overweight. But if I stay at a very low body fat, I can keep all my muscle mass and still be considered "normal" bodyweight, albeit at the higher end.

Part of the problem for guys who work out is that they think they need to weigh more than they actually do to maintain muscle mass or be "big." As for what that means for BMI, if the gov't is going to use it in some calculations, then there needs to be an exemption for people who teeter on the normal/overweight boundary pending a doctor's exam.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884040)

So you're telling me 50 years ago Americans only wanted healthy food, and then they just suddenly started wanting unhealthy food?

Bull ****ing shit.

Unhealthy food became more plentiful, easier to get and was promoted more.

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 6884054)

http://irishcalvinist.com/files/2006...mind-trick.jpg

You will buy cheese stuffed pizza

You will buy popcorn

You will eat fast food

You will attend the government mandated fat camp

Move along

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6884050)

BMI is wildly off for those of certain body types, as a host of professional athletes can tell you.

Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6884055)

I'm just more afraid they'll take BMI into account for raising premiums under a government plan. I work out and while I don't eat exceptionally well I don't eat awful either. Why should I be listed as overweight in some government database?

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6884056)

50 years ago, your mother was at home cooking and cleaning. Dad was out working. When dad came home, dinner was on the table. This used to be the way it worked for the majority of Americans.

Today, your mother and father (assuming they are together) are both out working. Neither has time to make meals at home, because neither is home.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884069)

I'm not arguing that the American lifestyle hasn't changed.

I'm only arguing that the change in the food industry is the reason we're fat.

Maybe the change in the lifestyle prompted the change in the food industry, but the change in the lifestyle isn't to blame. The food industry didn't HAVE to start being a bastion of giant portion sizes and processed crap. We didn't ASK it to become that.