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NJChiefsFan 10-10-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985471)
The Chiefs lost six games that year by a TD or less.

Haley did not even start Jamaal Charles until Week 10.

He also made dumbass decisions on OC and DC.

So yeah, part of the blame for that season goes to Haley.

Please answer the bold questions. I am fine with that response for 2009, although I don't blame him for OC/DC decisions his first year as a head coach. I am guessing most rookie head coaches make mistakes like that. Again, the tougher questions please.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 10:44 PM

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If Haley had a good QB and Berry/Charles do you really think we would be struggling right now? I really don't.
We had 180 yards rushing and held the 0-4 Colts scoreless for an entire half and we still barely beat them.

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985504)
We had 180 yards rushing and held the 0-4 Colts scoreless for an entire half and we still barely beat them.

I don't see your point. :shrug:

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7985521)
I don't see your point. :shrug:

With Charles on offense, are we going to do much better than 180 yards rushing?

With Berry on defense, are we going to do much better than holding the Colts scoreless for an entire half?

The Packers had huge injury problems last year and won the Super Bowl, so I'm not going to give Haley a free pass just because of injuries.

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985526)
With Charles on offense, are we going to do much better than 180 yards rushing?

With Berry on defense, are we going to do much better than holding the Colts scoreless for an entire half?

The Packers had huge injury problems last year and won the Super Bowl, so I'm not going to give Haley a free pass just because of injuries.

I will give him a pass for being stuck with Cassel for three years. JMO.

jd1020 10-10-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7985529)
I will give him a pass for being stuck with Cassel for three years. JMO.

He has the option of not sending him on the field. JMO.

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985504)
We had 180 yards rushing and held the 0-4 Colts scoreless for an entire half and we still barely beat them.

It was good to see the D make adjustments at halftime.

Indy isn't that bad. If Manning were healthy, they'd be 3-2 maybe 4-1.

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7985532)
He has the option of not sending him on the field. JMO.

Then your opinion is factually incorrect.
A) he has not had viable alternatives
B) he would get shitcanned by Pioli

Although I can see how constant wildcat formations could improve the offense. [/sarcasm]

jd1020 10-10-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7985537)
Then your opinion is factually incorrect.
A) he has not had viable alternatives
B) he would get shitcanned by Pioli

Although I can see how constant wildcat formations could improve the offense. [/sarcasm]

You think Stanzi would do worse than Cassel? I mean... I know throwing 5 yard slants is a lot to ask, but...

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985526)

The Packers had huge injury problems last year and won the Super Bowl, so I'm not going to give Haley a free pass just because of injuries.

Aaron Rodgers

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7985539)
You think Stanzi would do worse than Cassel? I mean... I know throwing 5 yard slants is a lot to ask, but...

I am about as big of a "cassel-hater" as you can find, but I still can't answer that. I don't have enough information. The head coach might. Hell, he might even agree with you but be unable to pull Cassel due to pressure from Pioli.

Hammock Parties 10-10-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7985541)
Aaron Rodgers

I'm not expecting the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

Nightfyre 10-10-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7985541)
Aaron Rodgers

gochiefs is still a worthless troll without a mind of his own. I wouldn't expect him to understand this.

jd1020 10-10-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7985543)
I am about as big of a "cassel-hater" as you can find, but I still can't answer that. I don't have enough information. The head coach might. Hell, he might even agree with you but be unable to pull Cassel due to pressure from Pioli.

The only way Pioli would fire Haley for switching QB's is if it completely ****ing flopped and blew the Chiefs chances of making the playoffs.

BigMeatballDave 10-10-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7985544)
I'm not expecting the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

My point is, if you have a stud QB, you can overcome a lot.


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